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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Aug 30, 2016 15:51:47 GMT -5
Not a fan of what he did but: How come armed protesters can take over a federal building in Oregon and no one says: "Hey if America is so bad, get the fuck out!" A football players sits during the anthem and he's public enemy #1. Lets be honest and admit that its not the action he took, but its his beliefs we have a problem with.Also if BLM altered the American Flag design for their own purposes how would you feel? But do you have an issues with this? Not true. Most Americans recognize his right to do what he did, but most Americans also believe there could have been a more productive and positive way to get his point across. IOW, you catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar. I wonder what these positive and productive methods would be that would generate a fraction of the attention and conversation this has
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Post by thebigragu on Aug 30, 2016 16:06:45 GMT -5
Oh... well that takes the fun out of it. We can fight about something else. Trannies Obama Abortion Ginger vs. Mary Ann Albino Rights Steely Dan Rush I'm open I keep finding myself lingering longer then i would hope on tranny research. I cant believe their not woman. It's almost like the i cant believe its not butter. But probably way worse
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Aug 30, 2016 16:06:59 GMT -5
FF2 - nobody is arguing his RIGHTS here. We're arguing his LOGIC. Like the logic of posters here and all over social media that he shouldn't "stand up" for those not brought up with the privileges he has had
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 30, 2016 16:10:35 GMT -5
Not true. Most Americans recognize his right to do what he did, but most Americans also believe there could have been a more productive and positive way to get his point across. IOW, you catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar. I wonder what these positive and productive methods would be that would generate a fraction of the attention and conversation this has Is anybody talking about how to improve things or are they just talking about how stupid they think he is?
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Aug 30, 2016 16:16:25 GMT -5
VThere's no arguing vets are largely treated like shit once they get back from the war - the VA, high suicide rates, PTSD TBI and mental health problems not addressed, unemployed, homeless. That's a lot more disrespectful than sitting down for the anthem is the point I believe he's making
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Aug 30, 2016 16:17:12 GMT -5
I wonder what these positive and productive methods would be that would generate a fraction of the attention and conversation this has Is anybody talking about how to improve things or are they just talking about how stupid they think he is? It's gotta start somewhere
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 30, 2016 16:33:47 GMT -5
Is anybody talking about how to improve things or are they just talking about how stupid they think he is? It's gotta start somewhere Fair enough.
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Post by Hotman on Aug 30, 2016 19:55:41 GMT -5
Like the logic of posters here and all over social media that he shouldn't "stand up" for those not brought up with the privileges he has had There's no arguing vets are largely treated like shit once they get back from the war - the VA, high suicide rates, PTSD TBI and mental health problems not addressed, unemployed, homeless. That's a lot more disrespectful than sitting down for the anthem is the point I believe he's making Spoiled fuckin punk is flat out attention whoring, because he's a loser as a football player and he's a poser. But this should get him some cred and idiots will think he's some kind of hero. I just think he's a clown and a shitty QB, and a spoiled brat. He has rich privilege. Which lets you get away with a whole fuckton more than any color privilege. He aint some activist, he's a brat. And also, I don't think anyone should be forced to stand or salute ANYTHING if they don't want. Just FYI/IIRC
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Post by Ff2 on Aug 31, 2016 8:09:52 GMT -5
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Post by Ff2 on Aug 31, 2016 8:10:08 GMT -5
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 31, 2016 8:49:03 GMT -5
One is doing something about it and the other is sitting down.
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Aug 31, 2016 8:51:09 GMT -5
FF2 - would you be ok if he pissed on the American flag? That's non violent protest as well, and it's his right.
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 31, 2016 8:53:48 GMT -5
If only hashtags and emotes sheltered, fed and clothed people. They don't need their awareness raised they need their quality of life raised.
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Post by Lithfan on Aug 31, 2016 8:54:40 GMT -5
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Aug 31, 2016 8:56:33 GMT -5
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