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Post by Ff2 on Jan 5, 2017 9:57:01 GMT -5
Liberals are screaming about Russia "hacking the election" when they actually mean "they" accessed the DNC and Podesta's emails. They probably accessed them through a phishing scheme not actual hacking and then the emails were released by Wikileaks laying Hillary and the DNC's antics in the primaries and elsewhere to bear. No actual votes were manipulated, people were just informed. There has been no claim of any actual content change in the releases so we are just getting to see who Hillary and her clan really are. This made Obama decide to oust 35 Russian diplomats. Now he is supposedly putting American forces on the Russian border. Bold posturing for a "hacking" offense. On the other hand: In July of last year there were 2 breaches of Government Databases that allowed access to the personnel and security records of 22+ million government employees were actually hacked and stolen and that was linked to the Chinese government. Obama's reaction was to do absolutely nothing. These were actual government files that were stolen. They could potentially include major government information that could expose Americans abroad. How is it that people are so outraged about the DNC and Podesta hack but there was no response by Obama to the Chinese hack of 22 million government employee records? You would think that at the least the government would have done more to avoid furhter hacking which might have suggested to Podesta to change his password from "Welcome1". I'll take this.... I would guess...one hack possibly revealed information that could possibly be used blah blah blah (If you believe that) One hack directly affected the election (If you believe that) Mostly people believe what backs up what they already believe.  |
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 5, 2017 11:24:55 GMT -5
[br Even FF2 doesn't believe half the shit he posts. He just likes getting a reaction. Now VTN on the other hand, she's just batshit crazy. There, I said it. Considering that the prevailing mindset here is shared by at most 26% of the populace *(most of which seems to have found their safe space here), and sometimes not more than 14% (say if you're in TN for instance), and the views I express are shared by 60 to 80% of America, the owning of the "batshit" is highly debatable, at best |
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Post by bxjetfan on Jan 5, 2017 12:13:39 GMT -5
[br Even FF2 doesn't believe half the shit he posts. He just likes getting a reaction. Now VTN on the other hand, she's just batshit crazy. There, I said it. Considering that the prevailing mindset here is shared by at most 26% of the populace *(most of which seems to have found their safe space here), and sometimes not more than 14% (say if you're in TN for instance), and the views I express are shared by 60 to 80% of America, the owning of the "batshit" is highly debatable, at best So are you going to Hillarys inauguration? |
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Jan 5, 2017 13:01:12 GMT -5
One hack directly affected the election (If you believe that)Mostly people believe what backs up what they already believe. Many of us are still waiting for someone who does believe this to explain how these phishing attempts or hacks, by Russia or a fat kid sitting on his bed with a laptop, DIRECTLY affected the election. No votes were changed, altered, added, or deleted. No content of the emails has been shown to have been altered. All that was exposed is what the HRC campaign was sending via email back and forth, and exposed to that % of America who took the time to pay attention. Folks, including the media, have been dumpster diving, shoulder-surfing, and social engineering ways to expose the kind of info that was revealed. This is just the next step. End of the day, you have a SoS who took cyber security lightly, and it bit her campaign in the ass when Podesta is clicking bogus email links. |
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Post by Ff2 on Jan 5, 2017 13:18:50 GMT -5
One hack directly affected the election (If you believe that)Mostly people believe what backs up what they already believe. Many of us are still waiting for someone who does believe this to explain how these phishing attempts or hacks, by Russia or a fat kid sitting on his bed with a laptop, DIRECTLY affected the election. No votes were changed, altered, added, or deleted. No content of the emails has been shown to have been altered. All that was exposed is what the HRC campaign was sending via email back and forth, and exposed to that % of America who took the time to pay attention. Folks, including the media, have been dumpster diving, shoulder-surfing, and social engineering ways to expose the kind of info that was revealed. This is just the next step. End of the day, you have a SoS who took cyber security lightly, and it bit her campaign in the ass when Podesta is clicking bogus email links. I dont think they mean votes were changed...I take it to mean we saw all DRC's dirty laundry but not RNCs. |
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Post by Trades on Jan 5, 2017 13:30:39 GMT -5
Many of us are still waiting for someone who does believe this to explain how these phishing attempts or hacks, by Russia or a fat kid sitting on his bed with a laptop, DIRECTLY affected the election. No votes were changed, altered, added, or deleted. No content of the emails has been shown to have been altered. All that was exposed is what the HRC campaign was sending via email back and forth, and exposed to that % of America who took the time to pay attention. Folks, including the media, have been dumpster diving, shoulder-surfing, and social engineering ways to expose the kind of info that was revealed. This is just the next step. End of the day, you have a SoS who took cyber security lightly, and it bit her campaign in the ass when Podesta is clicking bogus email links. I dont think they mean votes were changed...I take it to mean we saw all DRC's dirty laundry but not RNCs. Sometimes that happens but there was plenty of Trump's dirty laundry both real and manufactured presented by the media. Hers just cost her more. |
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Jan 5, 2017 13:33:54 GMT -5
And the public seeing the DNCs dirty laundry but not the RNCs.... how is that much different than media outlets reporting "Trump paid no taxes", when the whole picture is that both Trump and Clinton used the tax code to their advantage.
To be fair, neither directly effected the election results. And to be fair, most of what came out in those emails wasn't all that shocking to undecideds at that point.
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Post by bxjetfan on Jan 5, 2017 13:42:14 GMT -5
And the public seeing the DNCs dirty laundry but not the RNCs.... how is that much different than media outlets reporting "Trump paid no taxes", when the whole picture is that both Trump and Clinton used the tax code to their advantage. To be fair, neither directly effected the election results. And to be fair, most of what came out in those emails wasn't all that shocking to undecideds at that point. Bernie supporters were furious when they found out what Hillary and the DNC did. I don't know if it cost her the election but I would say more than a few Sanders supporters stayed home Election Day because of what they did. |
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 5, 2017 13:44:48 GMT -5
Considering that the prevailing mindset here is shared by at most 26% of the populace *(most of which seems to have found their safe space here), and sometimes not more than 14% (say if you're in TN for instance), and the views I express are shared by 60 to 80% of America, the owning of the "batshit" is highly debatable, at best So are you going to Hillarys inauguration? Pretty weird how someone who is so hated and so many disagree with could still win an election. Isn't it? |
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Post by bxjetfan on Jan 5, 2017 13:48:01 GMT -5
So are you going to Hillarys inauguration? Pretty weird how someone who is so hated and so many disagree with could still win an election. Isn't it? What's even crazier is that racist America reelected him. |
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 5, 2017 13:48:03 GMT -5
And another crazy question, news of Russian hacking came out and Trump demands Russia Hack Hillary during the campaign (goodbye democracy) but now that it's over suddenly he knows Russia never did any such thing. Where's the "inside info" in the hacking you promised us today ? Still waiting for Barron to email it to you? Oh wait you don't know how to use email
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Post by DDNYjets on Jan 5, 2017 14:20:00 GMT -5
So now Trump demanded Russia hack them?
Sad ting is 80% of the "Full Frontal" audience probably believes that.
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Post by Ff2 on Jan 5, 2017 14:58:00 GMT -5
And the public seeing the DNCs dirty laundry but not the RNCs.... how is that much different than media outlets reporting "Trump paid no taxes", when the whole picture is that both Trump and Clinton used the tax code to their advantage. To be fair, neither directly effected the election results. And to be fair, most of what came out in those emails wasn't all that shocking to undecideds at that point. I would agree with this. All side noise. Nothing pushed people either way. I honestly think is came down to who people hated less. Whose face they DIDNT want to see for 4 years. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Jan 5, 2017 15:49:01 GMT -5
Whose face they DIDNT want to see for 4 years. Carly Fiorina's. |
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Post by Ff2 on Jan 5, 2017 18:13:53 GMT -5
Whose face they DIDNT want to see for 4 years. Carly Fiorina's. Thank gaaaaawwwdddd. |
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