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Post by Jetworks on Feb 4, 2017 17:36:22 GMT -5
Nice point/counterpoint here. I feel Trump was wrong to call the judge "so-called", but it was far worse for Lewis to question Trump's presidency. Then again, I'm a moderate in my views, so that means they get little attention. What say you, porgyman ? Wrong to call the judge "so-called"? Jetworks, Trump could've called the Judge a billion other things that are much much much worse than just a lame-ass "so-called" remark. It's this PC-society BULLSHIT that's turned this country into a mish-mosh of snowflakes, hurt feelings, and all-around pussy-dom. I wouldn't call that judge "so-called". I would call that Judge....FIRED. Two points, Vin. First, it's always smart for the boss to rise above the fray and facilitate change behind the scenes. Second, the more important point is the manufactured outrage over the remark versus the more incendiary remarks by Lewis being glossed over. Let's see how the more liberal membership explains that away. We haven't even touched on all the death threats, to say nothing of the magazine cover with Trump's image covered by a gun target. Remember how it was racist and wrong to use the target over the states (about some Obama/IRS nonsense)? Me neither.
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Post by vin on Feb 4, 2017 18:33:14 GMT -5
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Post by Hotman on Feb 4, 2017 18:44:48 GMT -5
This is what they do. They accuse the other side of doing exactly what they try to do.
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Post by vonrotten on Feb 5, 2017 10:15:57 GMT -5
I always get a good chuckle when the Germans start preaching about other countries and their politics. Lol.
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Post by vin on Feb 5, 2017 10:41:38 GMT -5
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Feb 5, 2017 11:00:37 GMT -5
We've moved on from democrats vs republicans. It is now Globalist-Establishment social engineering by the government types vs the Rest of Us. I am no fan of Executive Orders but if the President can not place immediate temporary bans on persons from a region coming in to the US, that is just stupid. I would hope that any sort of permanent change would require an actual law, but c'mon the opposition to this is driven mainly by the fact that it was Trump. The establishment types and the media are full on trying to discredit anything Trump does because if he succeeds their way of doing things is done. dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/errors-from-the-press-are-piling-up-in-the-opening-weeks-of-the-trump-administration/
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Post by vin on Feb 5, 2017 11:28:26 GMT -5
I'm shocked this situation even exists, Sonny.
A President may be overridden but ONLY BY THE SCOTUS, NOT BY SOME TWO-BIT FEDERAL JUDGE WHOSE POSITION IS A LIFETIME ONE.
Which also is another problem that I want to see FIXED : ESTABLISH TERM-LIMITS TO FEDERAL JUDGES!!
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Feb 5, 2017 11:45:22 GMT -5
I'm shocked this situation even exists, Sonny. A President may be overridden but ONLY BY THE SCOTUS, NOT BY SOME TWO-BIT FEDERAL JUDGE WHOSE POSITION IS A LIFETIME ONE. Which also is another problem that I want to see FIXED : ESTABLISH TERM-LIMITS TO FEDERAL JUDGES!!In the proper circumstance a Federal Judge does have the power to stay an unconstitutional act. I have no doubt as to the power of a Federal Judge to dothis. However, I do not believe the circumstances warranted it since the EO itself is temporary. Not a surprise though. He represented Refugees on a pro bono basis as a private attorney and has declared from the bench that "black lives matter". Way too political a character to be expected to play this one straight. www.cnn.com/2017/02/04/politics/judge-james-robart-travel-ban-profile/
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Feb 5, 2017 12:07:44 GMT -5
They are wasting the court's time, taxpayer dollars and the money of the morons that donate to them. Just in case anyone thinks this is fake news How about these other parts of the law. If the EO is a Muslim ban, than there is a Muslim ban in the Statute itself!
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Post by DDNYjets on Feb 5, 2017 12:26:25 GMT -5
^ Thats why I feel this will ultimately win in the courts. There is no other way to interpret that law. The language is very clear. The ruling yesterday was basically done to give the WA state AG time to make a counterargument. Id be shocked if the ruling is upheld on Monday. Although it is San Francisco.
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Post by vin on Feb 5, 2017 12:53:31 GMT -5
^ California is a state that has to be one of, if not THE, biggest sanctuary states for these illegal scum of the earth there is.
Not surprised in the least that the appeals court refused a stay.
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Post by quantum on Feb 5, 2017 20:39:35 GMT -5
The 9th Circuit are the dooshiest and most Leftist of the all the Appeals Courts, so fuck them. That'll be slammed back on them but good.
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Post by Trades on Feb 6, 2017 9:47:52 GMT -5
Ben Affleck is a moron.
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Post by Trades on Feb 6, 2017 11:31:52 GMT -5
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Post by Touchable on Feb 6, 2017 12:57:21 GMT -5
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