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Post by 2foolish on Jan 9, 2019 17:33:46 GMT -5
It’s not if you believe it. believe what?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 17:46:33 GMT -5
It’s not if you believe it. believe what?
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Post by Jets Things on Jan 9, 2019 17:48:31 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 21:10:37 GMT -5
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Post by Hotman on Jan 10, 2019 15:15:28 GMT -5
The loser is a non biased independent haven't you heard? (lol biggest crock of shit ever spewed on this site)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 19:54:50 GMT -5
The loser is a non biased independent haven't you heard? (lol biggest crock of shit ever spewed on this site) What’s up Uncle Reico. Never said I was unbiased just stated the fact I’m a registered independent. It will all be ok.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Feb 19, 2019 7:42:13 GMT -5
The Great Wall of China is celebrated as one of the new seven wonders of the world rather than derided as an immoral xenophobic political stunt. Weird?
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Post by Ff2 on Feb 19, 2019 17:01:43 GMT -5
The Great Wall of China is celebrated as one of the new seven wonders of the world rather than derided as an immoral xenophobic political stunt. Weird? Not really. It's appreciated for its ahead of its time engineering not its utilitarian success. It didn't always work. Genghis Khan broke through the wall and took control of parts of China. (About 1/3 of it is already gone anyway. Ironically more people are trying to get OUT of China than in.)
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Feb 20, 2019 21:09:39 GMT -5
The Great Wall of China is celebrated as one of the new seven wonders of the world rather than derided as an immoral xenophobic political stunt. Weird? Not really. It's appreciated for its ahead of its time engineering not its utilitarian success. It didn't always work. Genghis Khan broke through the wall and took control of parts of China. (About 1/3 of it is already gone anyway. Ironically more people are trying to get OUT of China than in.) Not really?? So, it was derided as an immoral xenophobic political stunt?
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Post by Ff2 on Feb 20, 2019 21:56:33 GMT -5
Not really. It's appreciated for its ahead of its time engineering not its utilitarian success. It didn't always work. Genghis Khan broke through the wall and took control of parts of China. (About 1/3 of it is already gone anyway. Ironically more people are trying to get OUT of China than in.) Not really?? So, it was derided as an immoral xenophobic political stunt? No, it’s not really weird. Your question was “Weird?” Capish?
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Feb 20, 2019 22:04:04 GMT -5
Not really?? So, it was derided as an immoral xenophobic political stunt? No, it’s not really weird. Your question was “Weird?” Capish? You clearly have an issue with reading interpretation. Rather than seeing what is clearly stated, you make up $hit that's not stated so you can respond to something you've essentially made up.
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Post by Ff2 on Feb 20, 2019 22:06:08 GMT -5
No, it’s not really weird. Your question was “Weird?” Capish? You clearly have an issue with reading interpretation. Rather than seeing what is clearly stated, you make up $hit that's not stated so you can respond to something you've essentially made up. What did I make up? Genuinely confused here
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Feb 21, 2019 10:05:57 GMT -5
You clearly have an issue with reading interpretation. Rather than seeing what is clearly stated, you make up $hit that's not stated so you can respond to something you've essentially made up. What did I make up? Genuinely confused here My first point: "The Great Wall of China is celebrated as one of the new seven wonders of the world" That is factually correct, right? My second point: The Great Wall is not "derided as an immoral xenophobic political stunt". It has not. So, this is correct to, right? My observation: "Weird?" Perhaps this is where I lose you? It is weird that the largest border wall ever constructed is identified as a new seven wonders of the world and no one ever says that the Wall in China was "immoral". Nor do they say it was the product of "xenophobia". Nor do they call it a "political stunt". Your response: "Not really. It's appreciated for its ahead of its time engineering not its utilitarian success. It didn't always work. Genghis Khan broke through the wall and took control of parts of China." So, your point is, it is not really weird that it is one of the seven wonders and not regarded as an immoral xenophobic political stunt because the great wall was not as effective as they had hoped and didn't always work. That is a non sequitur. If you want to have a real discussion rather than just score points by registering your disagreement with anything you view as opposing your worldview, I'm open to it. If you responded with something like, "that's not weird because tribalism was the norm when the wall was built and culturally xenophobia was not really a thing at the time. And then added, Sonny, if your point is to defend Trump's Wall, I would point out the the Great Wall was not as effective as you might think." And then I would reply but the left always ascribes current cultural and political sensibilities on historical events and people (i.e. Columbus) rather than give them the benefit of their cultural and societal historical context. And Trump's Wall will not be facing the largest land army of it's time. You see. That is a discussion, rather than an exchange of words made for the sole purpose of scoring points by disagreeing with anything that is different than your own world view.
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Post by Ff2 on Feb 21, 2019 14:16:53 GMT -5
What did I make up? Genuinely confused here My first point: "The Great Wall of China is celebrated as one of the new seven wonders of the world" That is factually correct, right? My second point: The Great Wall is not "derided as an immoral xenophobic political stunt". It has not. So, this is correct to, right? My observation: "Weird?" Perhaps this is where I lose you? It is weird that the largest border wall ever constructed is identified as a new seven wonders of the world and no one ever says that the Wall in China was "immoral". Nor do they say it was the product of "xenophobia". Nor do they call it a "political stunt". Your response: "Not really. It's appreciated for its ahead of its time engineering not its utilitarian success. It didn't always work. Genghis Khan broke through the wall and took control of parts of China." So, your point is, it is not really weird that it is one of the seven wonders and not regarded as an immoral xenophobic political stunt because the great wall was not as effective as they had hoped and didn't always work. That is a non sequitur. If you want to have a real discussion rather than just score points by registering your disagreement with anything you view as opposing your worldview, I'm open to it. If you responded with something like, "that's not weird because tribalism was the norm when the wall was built and culturally xenophobia was not really a thing at the time. And then added, Sonny, if your point is to defend Trump's Wall, I would point out the the Great Wall was not as effective as you might think." And then I would reply but the left always ascribes current cultural and political sensibilities on historical events and people (i.e. Columbus) rather than give them the benefit of their cultural and societal historical context. And Trump's Wall will not be facing the largest land army of it's time. You see. That is a discussion, rather than an exchange of words made for the sole purpose of scoring points by disagreeing with anything that is different than your own world view. I think you misunderstood me. There was zero political content in my post, I apologize if I didn't express myself clearly...my non sequitur was probably where this fell apart. Not everything is the Great Debate. Sometimes I just babble. I also didn't say anything that anyone could really disagree with. My only 2 thoughts were: 1. China's Wall is considered one of the great wonders because its engineering was so far ahead of its time. 2. And while an engineering marvel it was less successful in is goal to keep people out. If I was unclear I apologize, your imaginary conversation aside, I really wasn't trying to make any connection to Trumps wall. I don't talk politics online anymore to avoid this very kind of thing. Ive always had very nice conversations with you. If I had something to say I would just say it.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Feb 21, 2019 22:24:44 GMT -5
My first point: "The Great Wall of China is celebrated as one of the new seven wonders of the world" That is factually correct, right? My second point: The Great Wall is not "derided as an immoral xenophobic political stunt". It has not. So, this is correct to, right? My observation: "Weird?" Perhaps this is where I lose you? It is weird that the largest border wall ever constructed is identified as a new seven wonders of the world and no one ever says that the Wall in China was "immoral". Nor do they say it was the product of "xenophobia". Nor do they call it a "political stunt". Your response: "Not really. It's appreciated for its ahead of its time engineering not its utilitarian success. It didn't always work. Genghis Khan broke through the wall and took control of parts of China." So, your point is, it is not really weird that it is one of the seven wonders and not regarded as an immoral xenophobic political stunt because the great wall was not as effective as they had hoped and didn't always work. That is a non sequitur. If you want to have a real discussion rather than just score points by registering your disagreement with anything you view as opposing your worldview, I'm open to it. If you responded with something like, "that's not weird because tribalism was the norm when the wall was built and culturally xenophobia was not really a thing at the time. And then added, Sonny, if your point is to defend Trump's Wall, I would point out the the Great Wall was not as effective as you might think." And then I would reply but the left always ascribes current cultural and political sensibilities on historical events and people (i.e. Columbus) rather than give them the benefit of their cultural and societal historical context. And Trump's Wall will not be facing the largest land army of it's time. You see. That is a discussion, rather than an exchange of words made for the sole purpose of scoring points by disagreeing with anything that is different than your own world view. I think you misunderstood me. There was zero political content in my post, I apologize if I didn't express myself clearly...my non sequitur was probably where this fell apart. Not everything is the Great Debate. Sometimes I just babble. I also didn't say anything that anyone could really disagree with. My only 2 thoughts were: 1. China's Wall is considered one of the great wonders because its engineering was so far ahead of its time. 2. And while an engineering marvel it was less successful in is goal to keep people out. If I was unclear I apologize, your imaginary conversation aside, I really wasn't trying to make any connection to Trumps wall. I don't talk politics online anymore to avoid this very kind of thing. Ive always had very nice conversations with you. If I had something to say I would just say it. My bad.
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