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Post by Trades on Mar 8, 2017 8:09:22 GMT -5
Bush and Obama are the same guy basically. 2 sides of the same coin. The important part is that people we let out are fighting against us not who was president when they were let out. Imagine if people were this critical of Obama with all of his gaffs? |
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Post by Trades on Mar 8, 2017 8:09:45 GMT -5
What part of "RUSSIAN INTERCEPTIONS" do you not understand? If the U.S. is up on a Russian phone every person who is either called or calls that phone is intercepted. Not sure I can explain it any easier for you to comprehend. according to vault 7 the CIA is monitoring everything. As in EVERYTHING and ANYTHING they want to. With or without a warrant. And if there is a mic or a camera on a device attached to the internet, they can turn it on without anyone knowing. Pretty scary stuff if you ask me. It is scary! Imagine the creatures that they have seen naked or worse! |
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Mar 8, 2017 8:16:47 GMT -5
according to vault 7 the CIA is monitoring everything. As in EVERYTHING and ANYTHING they want to. With or without a warrant. And if there is a mic or a camera on a device attached to the internet, they can turn it on without anyone knowing. Pretty scary stuff if you ask me. It is scary! Imagine the creatures that they have seen naked or worse! You can joke about it, but every dictatorship in the world has hired tech guys to turn every cellphone, laptop, ipad, and computer into a surveillance device. This is not how the government of a free people treats its citizens. |
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Post by rc726 on Mar 8, 2017 8:22:21 GMT -5
Bush and Obama are the same guy basically. 2 sides of the same coin. The important part is that people we let out are fighting against us not who was president when they were let out. Imagine if people were this critical of Obama with all of his gaffs? Trump isn't committing gaffes, he's making insane statements. Trump's gaffes got him elected. |
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Post by Trades on Mar 8, 2017 9:02:11 GMT -5
Bush and Obama are the same guy basically. 2 sides of the same coin. The important part is that people we let out are fighting against us not who was president when they were let out. Imagine if people were this critical of Obama with all of his gaffs? Trump isn't committing gaffes, he's making insane statements. Trump's gaffes got him elected. What is so insane about the statement in the link you provided? The only thing incorrect is that the people were released under Bush instead of Obama. It doesn't change the fact that over 100 of the people we let out of Guantanamo are back, fighting against us. That is the point. |
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Post by Trades on Mar 8, 2017 9:02:50 GMT -5
It is scary! Imagine the creatures that they have seen naked or worse! You can joke about it, but every dictatorship in the world has hired tech guys to turn every cellphone, laptop, ipad, and computer into a surveillance device. This is not how the government of a free people treats its citizens. I agree with you 100% but it doesn't mean we can't joke too. |
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Post by rc726 on Mar 8, 2017 9:10:17 GMT -5
Trump isn't committing gaffes, he's making insane statements. Trump's gaffes got him elected. What is so insane about the statement in the link you provided? The only thing incorrect is that the people were released under Bush instead of Obama. It doesn't change the fact that over 100 of the people we let out of Guantanamo are back, fighting against us. That is the point. If that was the point then why include Obama in the Tweet? You are all for Guantanamo, but against the CIA spying on people all over the world? |
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Post by Trades on Mar 8, 2017 9:14:30 GMT -5
What is so insane about the statement in the link you provided? The only thing incorrect is that the people were released under Bush instead of Obama. It doesn't change the fact that over 100 of the people we let out of Guantanamo are back, fighting against us. That is the point. If that was the point then why include Obama in the Tweet? You are all for Guantanamo, but against the CIA spying on people all over the world? I am against the CIA spying on Americans <edit>without a warrant</edit>. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Mar 8, 2017 9:24:10 GMT -5
What part of "RUSSIAN INTERCEPTIONS" do you not understand? If the U.S. is up on a Russian phone every person who is either called or calls that phone is intercepted. Not sure I can explain it any easier for you to comprehend. Yeah and we have laws in place to protect the identities of the American citizens that end up in those wiretaps of foreign officials. Flynn's conversations being leaked is proof positive laws were broken. The web has gotten too big. Too man Americans getting snared in it and the times it works and puts terrorists on the radar we end up sitting on our hands until they commit an act of terrorism. I understand privacy and security have an inverse relationship. But we are getting all the detriments and very little of the benefits. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Mar 8, 2017 9:30:51 GMT -5
Bush and Obama are the same guy basically. 2 sides of the same coin. The important part is that people we let out are fighting against us not who was president when they were let out. Imagine if people were this critical of Obama with all of his gaffs? Trump isn't committing gaffes, he's making insane statements. Trump's gaffes got him elected. Insane like ensuring Iran's nuclear capability and trying to start a war with Russia? Or insane like saying things that makes you feel uncomfortable? If I didnt know any better I would say people now dont mind the horrible things we do so long as we make it sound good to them while we do it. Bush was the guy who wouldnt cheat on his wife and that we'd like to have a beer with. Obama was the "smartest man in the room" who didnt get vetted by the media. Look at where the past 16 years has gotten us. And their dismal policies live on in the bureaucrats they planted in the 4th branch. Trump is far from perfect but he represented the only chance we had at trying to reverse some of this shit. Nobody else in either party was ever going to even think about that let alone try to do it. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Mar 8, 2017 9:37:43 GMT -5
What is so insane about the statement in the link you provided? The only thing incorrect is that the people were released under Bush instead of Obama. It doesn't change the fact that over 100 of the people we let out of Guantanamo are back, fighting against us. That is the point. If that was the point then why include Obama in the Tweet? You are all for Guantanamo, but against the CIA spying on people all over the world? He's got a hard-on for Obama bc of the wiretaps/electronic surveillance and what he did in his last days to make things as hard as possible on the incoming administration. I dont even mind the CIA spying on Americans, so long as there are ways to oversee them and check their power. Our intelligence agencies have become more powerful than any branch of government. And even worse they have become highly politicized which is an even bigger existential threat to us than terrorism. We've seen the IRS used a political weapon. Well thats a nerf gun compared to the CIA and FBI. Trump is right, this is some Nazi, KGB shit going on. |
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Post by Trades on Mar 8, 2017 9:47:15 GMT -5
If that was the point then why include Obama in the Tweet? You are all for Guantanamo, but against the CIA spying on people all over the world? He's got a hard-on for Obama bc of the wiretaps/electronic surveillance and what he did in his last days to make things as hard as possible on the incoming administration. I dont even mind the CIA spying on Americans, so long as there are ways to oversee them and check their power. Our intelligence agencies have become more powerful than any branch of government. And even worse they have become highly politicized which is an even bigger existential threat to us than terrorism. We've seen the IRS used a political weapon. Well thats a nerf gun compared to the CIA and FBI. Trump is right, this is some Nazi, KGB shit going on. The checks on their power are supposed to be courts and warrants but they are obviously bypassing that. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Mar 8, 2017 9:54:46 GMT -5
He's got a hard-on for Obama bc of the wiretaps/electronic surveillance and what he did in his last days to make things as hard as possible on the incoming administration. I dont even mind the CIA spying on Americans, so long as there are ways to oversee them and check their power. Our intelligence agencies have become more powerful than any branch of government. And even worse they have become highly politicized which is an even bigger existential threat to us than terrorism. We've seen the IRS used a political weapon. Well thats a nerf gun compared to the CIA and FBI. Trump is right, this is some Nazi, KGB shit going on. The checks on their power are supposed to be courts and warrants but they are obviously bypassing that. Yep. And who is going to go after them for that when they have dirt on everybody? |
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Post by Trades on Mar 8, 2017 9:57:02 GMT -5
The checks on their power are supposed to be courts and warrants but they are obviously bypassing that. Yep. And who is going to go after them for that when they have dirt on everybody? Exactly. |
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Post by rc726 on Mar 8, 2017 10:14:11 GMT -5
He's got a hard-on for Obama bc of the wiretaps/electronic surveillance and what he did in his last days to make things as hard as possible on the incoming administration. I dont even mind the CIA spying on Americans, so long as there are ways to oversee them and check their power. Our intelligence agencies have become more powerful than any branch of government. And even worse they have become highly politicized which is an even bigger existential threat to us than terrorism. We've seen the IRS used a political weapon. Well thats a nerf gun compared to the CIA and FBI. Trump is right, this is some Nazi, KGB shit going on. The checks on their power are supposed to be courts and warrants but they are obviously bypassing that. You may want to understand how the CIA functions and places they are operating in. Trump isn't right. |
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