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Post by Paradis on Apr 6, 2017 21:00:49 GMT -5
Lets hear your thoughts... Could you leave with this?... WOULD you take this now, over gambling on what will happen? I realize that Cook is something of a polarizing character, but i'm in the belief he's a top 10 prospect if you like him.
I dunno.
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Apr 6, 2017 21:04:54 GMT -5
Lets hear your thoughts... Could you leave with this?... WOULD you take this now, over gambling on what will happen? I realize that Cook is something of a polarizing character, but i'm in the belief he's a top 10 prospect if you like him. I dunno. Overall it's a great draft. Obviously you would have dropped down a few spots to take Cook if you could. However, I'd punch you in the dick for Tim Williams in the 2nd. I'd much rather have Tyus Bowser, Charles Harris, and Jordan Willis. On top of that Idk Ezra Robinson so I can't hate on the pick, but there were some good players available that I know so meh. The only reason I wouldn't take it is we could get an extra 2nd or 3rd and still take Cook. |
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Post by Paradis on Apr 6, 2017 21:08:40 GMT -5
Lets hear your thoughts... Could you leave with this?... WOULD you take this now, over gambling on what will happen? I realize that Cook is something of a polarizing character, but i'm in the belief he's a top 10 prospect if you like him. I dunno. Overall it's a great draft. Obviously you would have dropped down a few spots to take Cook if you could. However, I'd punch you in the dick for Tim Williams in the 2nd. I'd much rather have Tyus Bowser, Charles Harris, and Jordan Willis. On top of that Idk Ezra Robinson so I can't hate on the pick, but there were some good players available that I know so meh. The only reason I wouldn't take it is we could get an extra 2nd or 3rd and still take Cook. Is the Williams hate character driven, or future performance based? |
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Apr 6, 2017 21:13:22 GMT -5
Overall it's a great draft. Obviously you would have dropped down a few spots to take Cook if you could. However, I'd punch you in the dick for Tim Williams in the 2nd. I'd much rather have Tyus Bowser, Charles Harris, and Jordan Willis. On top of that Idk Ezra Robinson so I can't hate on the pick, but there were some good players available that I know so meh. The only reason I wouldn't take it is we could get an extra 2nd or 3rd and still take Cook. Is the Williams hate character driven, or future performance based? Both. He's a character risk and has no pass rushing moves. He's lucky he played for Bama. He just ran wide 90% of the time and then cleaned up. I never got the 1st round hype and after all the other stuff came out I wouldn't touch him. He's the least talented big name Bama player this year. |
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Post by Paradis on Apr 6, 2017 21:19:39 GMT -5
Is the Williams hate character driven, or future performance based? Both. He's a character risk and has no pass rushing moves. He's lucky he played for Bama. He just ran wide 90% of the time and then cleaned up. I never got the 1st round hype and after all the other stuff came out I wouldn't touch him. He's the least talented big name Bama player this year. Well I guess time will tell, but I don't see that. I see a guy who gets off his blocks, and finds the QB like shark after blood. It's not always pretty, but he seems to possess the natural talent. I wouldn't go to bat for him, but I felt there was value there i couldn't pass up. |
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Post by RobR on Apr 6, 2017 21:21:35 GMT -5
I'll jump into the discussion and I'm siding with HN's thoughts. Tim Williams has bust stamped on his forehead just like Randy Gregory. Remember who hated him even before that bullshit surfaced? I like Cook but he'll go later, same for Skipper. Everett is a good grab at that point but I'll admit I've never watched any tape on him. Love the 7th rounder.
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Apr 6, 2017 21:26:09 GMT -5
Well I guess time will tell, but I don't see that. I see a guy who gets off his blocks, and finds the QB like shark after blood. It's not always pretty, but he seems to possess the natural talent. I wouldn't go to bat for him, but I felt there was value there i couldn't pass up. As RobR said I see him as a less talented Randy Gregory. His sacks remind me of when we first pick up Aaron Maybin, except Maybin was way more athletic. He might get 5-6 sacks cleaning up a great DLine's mess, but he's not driving the pressure. |
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Post by Paradis on Apr 6, 2017 21:29:20 GMT -5
Well I guess time will tell, but I don't see that. I see a guy who gets off his blocks, and finds the QB like shark after blood. It's not always pretty, but he seems to possess the natural talent. I wouldn't go to bat for him, but I felt there was value there i couldn't pass up. As RobR said I see him as a less talented Randy Gregory. His sacks remind me of when we first pick up Aaron Maybin, except Maybin was way more athletic. He might get 5-6 sacks cleaning up a great DLine's mess, but he's not driving the pressure. Interesting. I've never seen him in such a lesser light. He's dominated games where the oline didn't show up... and lets be honest. That happens in the NFL. I never liked Gregory's tape. The stuff about his off field bullshit was just a death kneel for me, as I thought he looked very meh when I looked up his film. |
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Post by joepnyj1 on Apr 12, 2017 11:38:04 GMT -5
Lets hear your thoughts... Could you leave with this?... WOULD you take this now, over gambling on what will happen? I realize that Cook is something of a polarizing character, but i'm in the belief he's a top 10 prospect if you like him. I dunno. IMO this is not a good draft, I have seen you do better in the past bud and totally respect your knowledge so please don't take it wrong! Not a fan of Cook as the 6th pick unless we traded down in the 1st, he is talented and I like the player but he would be a bit of a reach here. Williams is a value here but I just don't like the player. He is too one dimensional and if he fails at getting to the QB he is useless. Gerald Everett is a solid pick, Skipper can be had later but I am also not a fan, he is overly tall and lacks the strength needed to be an OT in the NFL. Ezra Robinson? Honestly did not know much about him and when I read up on him I saw he was a minimum effort type player, something we don't need. Who is Kai Nacua??? and Jylan Ware is a very good last pick. So I really liked Cook (as a player not being picked at 6), Everett and Ware other than that I was not big on your picks. Anyways I am probably going to cook up my 1st mock tonight I am sure to get plenty of criticism  |
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Post by crossfire on Apr 12, 2017 18:26:39 GMT -5
Not a huge fan of Cook and personally think he slides back a ways. Not out of the top 20 but don't see him going in the top 10. Would not be upset if we traded back and got him.
I think there is a better chance that Tim Williams slips to the third round than Everett. I love the Everett pick. Getting Everett in the third round would be awesome.
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