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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 23, 2017 14:17:35 GMT -5
Everything he argued is a matter of interpretation and statistic cherry-picking. Please look at the 5th lie. Exactly how is that a matter of interpretation? It is the law. It has been the law since the Clinton days. Seems pretty clear to me. Its not being enforced. He is going to make them enforce it. Just like all our other immigration laws.
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Post by porgyman on Jun 23, 2017 14:21:12 GMT -5
Please look at the 5th lie. Exactly how is that a matter of interpretation? It is the law. It has been the law since the Clinton days. Seems pretty clear to me. Its not being enforced. He is going to make them enforce it. Just like all our other immigration laws. However enforcement is not the issue here. He is taking credit for something brand new, when in fact it already exists.
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 23, 2017 14:33:57 GMT -5
Its not being enforced. He is going to make them enforce it. Just like all our other immigration laws. However enforcement is not the issue here. He is taking credit for something brand new, when in fact it already exists. Well thats the difference. You are concerned with who gets credit and all I give a fuck about is if its getting enforced. By your standards Clinton and Obama should get credit for the border wall. Which I would be fine with btw.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Jun 23, 2017 15:01:26 GMT -5
Once again, Hillary or Obama. Question for the Trumpsters. How do you feel about being lied to, over and over again? Does it at least bother you on some level? Or is your attitude just, fuck it. It doesn't affect me personally? I'm genuinely interested in your answers. I love how when he speaks he makes liberals more crazier than they already are. It's my favoritist thing in the whole world. Trump loves to drive them mad. Someone explained it the other day on the news by comarparing trump to this kinda guy: "So, an Irishman walks down the street and sees two guys fighting. He asks both - so, is this a private fight or can anyone join?" That's trump. A fighter. He loves it. And we finally have someone on our side who will smack the liberbal louts in the mouth. Each and every day.
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Post by porgyman on Jun 23, 2017 15:04:03 GMT -5
However enforcement is not the issue here. He is taking credit for something brand new, when in fact it already exists. Well thats the difference. You are concerned with who gets credit and all I give a fuck about is if its getting enforced. By your standards Clinton and Obama should get credit for the border wall. Which I would be fine with btw. Ok, having these discussions with you Trump guys are pointless. Clinton/Obama. Obama/Clinton. With a Dems are so ugly rolled into the conversation. Trump reminds me of the kid in high school that always bragged about fucking the homecoming queen. When in fact he never got to first base with her. Yet there were always kids that blindly believed the bullshit.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Jun 23, 2017 15:07:36 GMT -5
Well thats the difference. You are concerned with who gets credit and all I give a fuck about is if its getting enforced. By your standards Clinton and Obama should get credit for the border wall. Which I would be fine with btw. Ok, having these discussions with you Trump guys are pointless. Clinton/Obama. Obama/Clinton. With a Dems are so ugly rolled into the conversation. Trump reminds me of the kid in high school that always bragged about fucking the homecoming queen. When in fact he never got to first base with her. Yet there were always kids that blindly believed the bullshit. I like you Porgs, but if we didn't have trump that means we'd have shillary. I'll take trump. He wasn't my firs choice (voted for Rubio in the republican primary), but he's 100000 times better than the UGLY witch. ;-)
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Post by porgyman on Jun 23, 2017 15:20:33 GMT -5
Ok, having these discussions with you Trump guys are pointless. Clinton/Obama. Obama/Clinton. With a Dems are so ugly rolled into the conversation. Trump reminds me of the kid in high school that always bragged about fucking the homecoming queen. When in fact he never got to first base with her. Yet there were always kids that blindly believed the bullshit. I like you Porgs, but if we didn't have trump that means we'd have shillary. I'll take trump. He wasn't my firs choice (voted for Rubio in the republican primary), but he's 100000 times better than the UGLY witch. ;-) As I said before, I'm no fan of Hillary. I have strong issues with her. Bernie had some interesting ideas, however I question how we would pay for it. Of a very flawed field, I actually liked Kasich, and would have voted for him in a general election. i just can't take the nonstop lies from Trump. The crazy thing is 90% of them are not necessary. He is truly his own worst enemy. Finally, for you, DD, Quantum, Things and the others. None of this is personal. We root for a dysfunctional football team. That alone should qualify us for institutional intervention.
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Post by southparkcpa on Jun 23, 2017 16:02:40 GMT -5
Robert Reich the leftest midget? Is what he is saying not true? Much of it is not...... The FARM comment for example. That's a hypothetical from TRUMP. Roughly, less than 5 percent of all Americans are subject to the federal estate tax. So....farms are no exception. If if you think that money is in good hands in the FED coffers, I have a bridge to sell you. THey can't even protect your data from hackers 5 years of stemming job losses in COAL, we now have a cease of that. THAT is movement. AFter 8 years of OBAMA, the poor are poorer, less equipped to take care of themselves, in crumbling schools yet federal workers retire with plush benefits and libs grow that base and the poor because BOTH will vote for more government. .
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 23, 2017 16:39:21 GMT -5
Well thats the difference. You are concerned with who gets credit and all I give a fuck about is if its getting enforced. By your standards Clinton and Obama should get credit for the border wall. Which I would be fine with btw. Ok, having these discussions with you Trump guys are pointless. Clinton/Obama. Obama/Clinton. With a Dems are so ugly rolled into the conversation. Trump reminds me of the kid in high school that always bragged about fucking the homecoming queen. When in fact he never got to first base with her. Yet there were always kids that blindly believed the bullshit. Well its the truth. You want to argue about how the sausage is made. I just want it to taste good. Perhaps I can help you understand it better with this explanation. Trump has said he wants to cut the corporate tax rate to 15%. Lets say when the do the tax cuts the rate becomes 20%. People like you and Reich will say that Trump lied. He promised 15% and its only 20%. Myself and others will look at the fact that the rate was 35% and its now 20% and we will be very happy and thankful.
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 23, 2017 16:49:20 GMT -5
I like you Porgs, but if we didn't have trump that means we'd have shillary. I'll take trump. He wasn't my firs choice (voted for Rubio in the republican primary), but he's 100000 times better than the UGLY witch. ;-) As I said before, I'm no fan of Hillary. I have strong issues with her. Bernie had some interesting ideas, however I question how we would pay for it. Of a very flawed field, I actually liked Kasich, and would have voted for him in a general election. i just can't take the nonstop lies from Trump. The crazy thing is 90% of them are not necessary. He is truly his own worst enemy. Finally, for you, DD, Quantum, Things and the others. None of this is personal. We root for a dysfunctional football team. That alone should qualify us for institutional intervention. We can talk about who we most closely align with but the fact of the matter is Trump was the only candidate alive that was capable of beating Clinton in 2016. I accepted that a long time ago and was willing to absorb the bombastic showmanship and faux pas that comes with Trump. The fact that he appealed to my natural contrarian and trollish personality also helped. I dont care what he says or tweets. By in large I like what he has done so far. But I am also a person who believes less is more when it come to legislation so where some people say nothing has gotten done I say good. Now I think what you are trying to extract from us is at what point do we get fed up with the guy. Can only speak for myself but unless he gets involved in multiple wars and regime changes and spends trillions like we have the past 16 years I think I will be happy.
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Post by JStokes on Jun 23, 2017 16:50:19 GMT -5
Well thats the difference. You are concerned with who gets credit and all I give a fuck about is if its getting enforced. By your standards Clinton and Obama should get credit for the border wall. Which I would be fine with btw. Ok, having these discussions with you Trump guys are pointless. Clinton/Obama. Obama/Clinton. With a Dems are so ugly rolled into the conversation. Trump reminds me of the kid in high school that always bragged about fucking the homecoming queen. When in fact he never got to first base with her. Yet there were always kids that blindly believed the bullshit. These arguments are silly but I would like to point out one thing. As long as we're using metaphors. He DID fuck the prom queen. He won the Presidency of the United States. He said he was going to win and he did. Still don't believe he fucked the prom queen? No bigger accomplishment than that. _
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Post by JStokes on Jun 23, 2017 17:00:41 GMT -5
There's a news flash. Politicians tell lies. Take credit for the deeds of others. _
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Post by 32Green on Jun 23, 2017 20:19:15 GMT -5
Well thats the difference. You are concerned with who gets credit and all I give a fuck about is if its getting enforced. By your standards Clinton and Obama should get credit for the border wall. Which I would be fine with btw. Trump reminds me of the kid in high school that always bragged about fucking the homecoming queen. When in fact he never got to first base with her. Yet there were always kids that blindly believed the bullshit. Me too. You and I are in total agreement. However...the alternative was Hilary Clinton...a fucking perp from day one, a long time member of the Clinton crime cartel...which is a matter of record going back to their Arkansas days. Dont know how old you are, but I am old enough to remember. You want to be pissed at someone? Be pissed at the Dem party that offered her up. I will be pissed at the Republicans who were so out of touch they let a boob like Trump overtake their field of candidates. So, cry all you want about Trump...he isnt the perp. Clinton is ...and the Muslim secret-agent Abedin...is not in the White House machinating around her emotionally disturbed, alcohol addled bozz, doing the bidding of the Muslim brotherhood whilst lib fucktards pat themselves on the back as our fate is sealed. Come at me with something other than Trump is a liar/boob/dick...and we can talk. Because the Dems are the real reason he is President.
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Post by Hotman on Jun 24, 2017 3:54:58 GMT -5
Robert Reich the leftest midget? sounds kinda racist to me. Reich?? camon what did hiltery himself name this jerk?
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Post by Hotman on Jun 24, 2017 4:01:52 GMT -5
Trump reminds me of the kid in high school that always bragged about fucking the homecoming queen. When in fact he never got to first base with her. Yet there were always kids that blindly believed the bullshit. Me too. You and I are in total agreement. However...the alternative was Hilary Clinton...a fucking perp from day one, a long time member of the Clinton crime cartel...which is a matter of record going back to their Arkansas days. Dont know how old you are, but I am old enough to remember. You want to be pissed at someone? Be pissed at the Dem party that offered her up. I will be pissed at the Republicans who were so out of touch they let a boob like Trump overtake their field of candidates. So, cry all you want about Trump...he isnt the perp. Clinton is ...and the Muslim secret-agent Abedin...is not in the White House machinating around her emotionally disturbed, alcohol addled bozz, doing the bidding of the Muslim brotherhood whilst lib fucktards pat themselves on the back as our fate is sealed. Come at me with something other than Trump is a liar/boob/dick...and we can talk. Because the Dems are the real reason he is President. pretty on the ball with this one Capn' Green. The dems and their ACTUAL election rigging is to blame for this. Made me mad to have to hope trump won, and he is a con artist who wants to line his pockets and his buddies, maybe while doing some good stuff in the process but the guy is a scumbag the way he views anyone who isn't rich. BUT. WAY better than the other fucking horrendous option. And the DNC party is 100% to blame for that. That bitch should have never been allowed to run and that party is rotten to the core. At least it seems as if the red team has a few ppl scattered about that have some kind of belief in what they are doing at least... but FUCK Sessions and these big pharma scumbags who should be ashamed of themselves w this drug war shit. Nobody is fooled by their reefer madness shit and it should be criminal obstruction at this point.
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