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Post by Trades on Aug 4, 2017 11:17:41 GMT -5
I actually agree with you on that. Doesn't make it right. If Trump ever passes some policies and it has a positive effect on the economy, I'll gladly give him credit for it. If i don't, everyone is free to call me out on it. Right now, he doing nothing but riding a wave and taking all the credit not even a year into his presidency. That's fine though. Can't really blame him for doing that. Smoke and mirrors. He needs congress to actually send him something. Congress is an embarrassment. He got Gorsuch appointed, that is enough for me. Had Hillary won we would have been buried under SJW Justices and America would be done. Take a look at "Schumer's better deal". There is nothing wrong with Trump's ideas except that he isn't a career politician and is a republican. |
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Post by Trades on Aug 4, 2017 11:20:22 GMT -5
If Trump ever passes some policies and it has a positive effect on the economy, I'll gladly give him credit for it. If i don't, everyone is free to call me out on it. Right now, he doing nothing but riding a wave and taking all the credit not even a year into his presidency. That's fine though. Can't really blame him for doing that. Smoke and mirrors. Trump has done addition by subtraction. Its not about what he has passed. Its about what he has undone. 15 regulations gone to every 1 added. Less government. I see all this talk about him not having any major legislation passed. How did Obama's major legislation (Obamacare) work out? The less they pass the better off we are. Big legislation just means more government. Only thing I want from him is the tax reform, some infrastructure, the wall and the judicial appointments. Everything else is icing. This is what it is all about for me. True libertarianism. Small government. Stay out of my bedroom, my life and my pocket and enforce the constitution. PERIOD |
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Aug 4, 2017 11:22:35 GMT -5
If Trump ever passes some policies and it has a positive effect on the economy, I'll gladly give him credit for it. If i don't, everyone is free to call me out on it. Right now, he doing nothing but riding a wave and taking all the credit not even a year into his presidency. That's fine though. Can't really blame him for doing that. Smoke and mirrors. Trump has done addition by subtraction. Its not about what he has passed. Its about what he has undone. 15 regulations gone to every 1 added. Less government. I see all this talk about him not having any major legislation passed. How did Obama's major legislation (Obamacare) work out? The less they pass the better off we are. Big legislation just means more government. Only thing I want from him is the tax reform, some infrastructure, the wall and the judicial appointments. Everything else is icing. And if he does all of those things and the economy is still going up two, three, or four years down the road, he'll get the credit. At least from my perspective. And that wall is never going to happen. At least not anywhere close to like what he promised. And Mexico is definitely never paying for it like he promised. |
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Aug 4, 2017 11:25:47 GMT -5
If Trump ever passes some policies and it has a positive effect on the economy, I'll gladly give him credit for it. If i don't, everyone is free to call me out on it. Right now, he doing nothing but riding a wave and taking all the credit not even a year into his presidency. That's fine though. Can't really blame him for doing that. Smoke and mirrors. He needs congress to actually send him something. Congress is an embarrassment. He got Gorsuch appointed, that is enough for me. Had Hillary won we would have been buried under SJW Justices and America would be done. Take a look at "Schumer's better deal". There is nothing wrong with Trump's ideas except that he isn't a career politician and is a republican. Gorsuch or any conservative like him was a lay up. Any republican could and would have done that. If that's all he accomplishes, his presidency is an enormous failure. |
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Post by Big L on Aug 4, 2017 11:28:00 GMT -5
I think they're biding their time until Pence is vetted 100% before they show T the door.
The establishment doesn't want their swamp drained.
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 4, 2017 11:31:19 GMT -5
He needs congress to actually send him something. Congress is an embarrassment. He got Gorsuch appointed, that is enough for me. Had Hillary won we would have been buried under SJW Justices and America would be done. Take a look at "Schumer's better deal". There is nothing wrong with Trump's ideas except that he isn't a career politician and is a republican. Gorsuch or any conservative like him was a lay up. Any republican could and would have done that. Yes. But no living Republican was winning that election in 2016. Only Trump. So if Trump didnt win the nomination we would have had some gender-bender SJW appointed by Hillary. |
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Aug 4, 2017 11:33:49 GMT -5
Gorsuch or any conservative like him was a lay up. Any republican could and would have done that. Yes. But no living Republican was winning that election in 2016. Only Trump. So if Trump didnt win the nomination we would have had some gender-bender SJW appointed by Hillary. That's probably true. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 4, 2017 11:36:29 GMT -5
Trump has done addition by subtraction. Its not about what he has passed. Its about what he has undone. 15 regulations gone to every 1 added. Less government. I see all this talk about him not having any major legislation passed. How did Obama's major legislation (Obamacare) work out? The less they pass the better off we are. Big legislation just means more government. Only thing I want from him is the tax reform, some infrastructure, the wall and the judicial appointments. Everything else is icing. And if he does all of those things and the economy is still going up two, three, or four years down the road, he'll get the credit. At least from my perspective. And that wall is never going to happen. At least not anywhere close to like what he promised. And Mexico is definitely never paying for it like he promised. I never wanted a full wall across the whole border. I want a combination of physical wall, tech and man power. Cant treat every part of our border the same. Let the border patrol do their jobs and let them decide what makes sense where. Take it out of the hands of politicians. Mexico isn't going to cut us a check. That could be literal suicide for their president if he gave in like that. But there are plenty of indirect ways to make them fund the wall. |
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Post by Trades on Aug 4, 2017 11:41:25 GMT -5
And if he does all of those things and the economy is still going up two, three, or four years down the road, he'll get the credit. At least from my perspective. And that wall is never going to happen. At least not anywhere close to like what he promised. And Mexico is definitely never paying for it like he promised. I never wanted a full wall across the whole border. I want a combination of physical wall, tech and man power. Cant treat every part of our border the same. Let the border patrol do their jobs and let them decide what makes sense where. Take it out of the hands of politicians. Mexico isn't going to cut us a check. That could be literal suicide for their president if he gave in like that. But there are plenty of indirect ways to make them fund the wall. But everything has to be a literal interpretation! Trump's policies and rhetoric toward illegals has supposedly reduced illegal immigration. Either way you look at it less illegals is better. A real wall in the worst areas will help. ProAmerican laws and actual fair trade agreements would be huge for our people. |
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Aug 4, 2017 11:44:29 GMT -5
And if he does all of those things and the economy is still going up two, three, or four years down the road, he'll get the credit. At least from my perspective. And that wall is never going to happen. At least not anywhere close to like what he promised. And Mexico is definitely never paying for it like he promised. I never wanted a full wall across the whole border. I want a combination of physical wall, tech and man power. Cant treat every part of our border the same. Let the border patrol do their jobs and let them decide what makes sense where. Take it out of the hands of politicians. Mexico isn't going to cut us a check. That could be literal suicide for their president if he gave in like that. But there are plenty of indirect ways to make them fund the wall. That might be what you want, but that's not what trump promised while campaigning. He promised a wall and he promised mexico would pay for it. It was one of his biggest selling points. |
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Aug 4, 2017 11:46:45 GMT -5
I never wanted a full wall across the whole border. I want a combination of physical wall, tech and man power. Cant treat every part of our border the same. Let the border patrol do their jobs and let them decide what makes sense where. Take it out of the hands of politicians. Mexico isn't going to cut us a check. That could be literal suicide for their president if he gave in like that. But there are plenty of indirect ways to make them fund the wall. But everything has to be a literal interpretation! Trump's policies and rhetoric toward illegals has supposedly reduced illegal immigration. Either way you look at it less illegals is better. A real wall in the worst areas will help. ProAmerican laws and actual fair trade agreements would be huge for our people. Don't play the semantics game. You can't get any more literal than this. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 4, 2017 11:50:37 GMT -5
I never wanted a full wall across the whole border. I want a combination of physical wall, tech and man power. Cant treat every part of our border the same. Let the border patrol do their jobs and let them decide what makes sense where. Take it out of the hands of politicians. Mexico isn't going to cut us a check. That could be literal suicide for their president if he gave in like that. But there are plenty of indirect ways to make them fund the wall. That might be what you want, but that's not what trump promised while campaigning. He promised a wall and he promised mexico would pay for it. It was one of his biggest selling points. I dont know a single person who voted for Trump that thinks we should build a wall on a mountain or in the middle of a river. Like I said, we can have them pay for it if we want. Some very simple ways. But like healthcare he will need Congress for some of them. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 4, 2017 11:52:36 GMT -5
I never wanted a full wall across the whole border. I want a combination of physical wall, tech and man power. Cant treat every part of our border the same. Let the border patrol do their jobs and let them decide what makes sense where. Take it out of the hands of politicians. Mexico isn't going to cut us a check. That could be literal suicide for their president if he gave in like that. But there are plenty of indirect ways to make them fund the wall. But everything has to be a literal interpretation! Trump's policies and rhetoric toward illegals has supposedly reduced illegal immigration. Either way you look at it less illegals is better. A real wall in the worst areas will help. ProAmerican laws and actual fair trade agreements would be huge for our people. Illegal immigration costs billions. How much has he saved so far with the 70% reduction of border crossings? The money we will save and tax revenue generated by renegotiating NAFTA. |
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Aug 4, 2017 11:57:15 GMT -5
That might be what you want, but that's not what trump promised while campaigning. He promised a wall and he promised mexico would pay for it. It was one of his biggest selling points. I dont know a single person who voted for Trump that thinks we should build a wall on a mountain or in the middle of a river. Like I said, we can have them pay for it if we want. Some very simple ways. But like healthcare he will need Congress for some of them. I think there were and still are plenty of people expecting a large wall across the entire border. Not a fence like we already have right now in certain areas. The great wall of trump spanning across the entire border. And no, i don't think there's any way mexico pays for it. If it gets done, american taxes will be funding it. It's just most likely never going to happen. |
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Post by Trades on Aug 4, 2017 12:11:08 GMT -5
But everything has to be a literal interpretation! Trump's policies and rhetoric toward illegals has supposedly reduced illegal immigration. Either way you look at it less illegals is better. A real wall in the worst areas will help. ProAmerican laws and actual fair trade agreements would be huge for our people. Don't play the semantics game. You can't get any more literal than this. AND Obama said we could keep our doctor if we liked our doctor. Which one do you think deserves a litteral interpretation? Someone on the campaign trail stating "Mexico will pay for the wall" when pretty much everyone can see that there was no way Mexico would write a check or you can keep your doctor stated by a President? |
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