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Post by Trades on Aug 4, 2017 12:13:37 GMT -5
I dont know a single person who voted for Trump that thinks we should build a wall on a mountain or in the middle of a river. Like I said, we can have them pay for it if we want. Some very simple ways. But like healthcare he will need Congress for some of them. I think there were and still are plenty of people expecting a large wall across the entire border. Not a fence like we already have right now in certain areas. The great wall of trump spanning across the entire border. And no, i don't think there's any way mexico pays for it. If it gets done, american taxes will be funding it. It's just most likely never going to happen. A wall would be much more effective in certain areas than a fence. Do you realize how much illegal immigration and NAFTA have cost Americans? Greatly reducing illegal immigration and renegotiating NAFTA would easily pay for the wall in taxpayer savings.
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Aug 4, 2017 12:14:43 GMT -5
Don't play the semantics game. You can't get any more literal than this. AND Obama said we could keep our doctor if we liked our doctor. Which one do you think deserves a litteral interpretation? Someone on the campaign trail stating "Mexico will pay for the wall" when pretty much everyone can see that there was no way Mexico would write a check or you can keep your doctor stated by a President? Both deserve literal interpretation.
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Aug 4, 2017 12:19:14 GMT -5
I think there were and still are plenty of people expecting a large wall across the entire border. Not a fence like we already have right now in certain areas. The great wall of trump spanning across the entire border. And no, i don't think there's any way mexico pays for it. If it gets done, american taxes will be funding it. It's just most likely never going to happen. A wall would be much more effective in certain areas than a fence. Do you realize how much illegal immigration and NAFTA have cost Americans? Greatly reducing illegal immigration and renegotiating NAFTA would easily pay for the wall in taxpayer savings. I'll believe it if/when i see it. He'll build a wall and they'll build tunnels. But really, he'll never build this great wall he promised. Maybe he'll start planning/constructing around the next election just to save face, but this great wall that mexico is paying for is never going to happen.
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 4, 2017 12:32:57 GMT -5
AND Obama said we could keep our doctor if we liked our doctor. Which one do you think deserves a litteral interpretation? Someone on the campaign trail stating "Mexico will pay for the wall" when pretty much everyone can see that there was no way Mexico would write a check or you can keep your doctor stated by a President? Both deserve literal interpretation. And that doesnt become a falsehood until he is out of office. You realize that, right? Obama said he was going to close Gitmo. In two terms, he failed to do so. That is now a falsehood.
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Post by Trades on Aug 4, 2017 12:33:26 GMT -5
A wall would be much more effective in certain areas than a fence. Do you realize how much illegal immigration and NAFTA have cost Americans? Greatly reducing illegal immigration and renegotiating NAFTA would easily pay for the wall in taxpayer savings. I'll believe it if/when i see it. He'll build a wall and they'll build tunnels. But really, he'll never build this great wall he promised. Maybe he'll start planning/constructing around the next election just to save face, but this great wall that mexico is paying for is never going to happen. So because it isn't perfect then it shouldn't be done at all? Planning has already been done. Prototypes are being built as we speak... www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/27/donald-trump-border-wall-mexico-prototypes-septemberand if you don't like this article here is one from ABC abcnews.go.com/US/us-plans-construct-border-wall-prototypes-summer/story?id=48324559
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 12:46:16 GMT -5
This is a fucking set up. The minute they start throwing around Grand Jury shit is rigged They want PUTIN. They don't GAS about Trump.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 12:53:51 GMT -5
I want him fired yesterday. Also I think Pence is the fucking leaker He doesnt have to fire Mueller. Firing Mueller makes him a martyr. Let him reveal himself as the deep state scumbag that he is. And to be honest, I dont think he needs to pardon anyone for campaign related stuff but he might have to with business related stuff if that is where Mueller is going. So if thats the case then he can just pull the rug out from under him. Pence isnt the leaker. He gets murdered in the press. Gotta look at who is unscathed. Preibus and McMaster. Preibus got fired but is still leaking some old stuff he knows, which is why we had those recycled transcripts leaked yesterday. And McMaster is leaking as well. This fucking cue ball is still enabling Susan Rice. If Trump doesnt fire all these people then its on him. Every Obama political appointee needs to be asked for their resignation. I dont care if that leaves a skeleton crew in the White House. Trump is at his best with skeleton crews. His campaign was a skeleton crew. And when Trump is on the phone with foreign leaders there should only be one other person in the room. Not 5 or 6, some of which are fucking Democrats. And the orders that Obama made that loosened up the intelligence sharing need to be rescinded. Should have been done day one. I dont think Trump realizes how much power he has. He controls the executive branch. He can order new investigations into everything. Is Sessions doesnt want to do it then he can appoint a special counsel. Go after all the leakers. Big names need to go to jail. I don't like this Sam I Am I don't like Trump's Skeleton Jam King Jong Un wants to blast California bounty So none shall pass. I say stop I say no North Korea has to go There are no Brains in Trump's Trust, As California nears The Era of Dust Trump better get all those people back in here, and TURN THOSE FUCKING MACHINES BACK ON
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 12:56:53 GMT -5
I thought you guys were for strong foreign policy. But you're just foreign to policy. oh my
Sincerely
Dick Enberg
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 4, 2017 13:00:51 GMT -5
He doesnt have to fire Mueller. Firing Mueller makes him a martyr. Let him reveal himself as the deep state scumbag that he is. And to be honest, I dont think he needs to pardon anyone for campaign related stuff but he might have to with business related stuff if that is where Mueller is going. So if thats the case then he can just pull the rug out from under him. Pence isnt the leaker. He gets murdered in the press. Gotta look at who is unscathed. Preibus and McMaster. Preibus got fired but is still leaking some old stuff he knows, which is why we had those recycled transcripts leaked yesterday. And McMaster is leaking as well. This fucking cue ball is still enabling Susan Rice. If Trump doesnt fire all these people then its on him. Every Obama political appointee needs to be asked for their resignation. I dont care if that leaves a skeleton crew in the White House. Trump is at his best with skeleton crews. His campaign was a skeleton crew. And when Trump is on the phone with foreign leaders there should only be one other person in the room. Not 5 or 6, some of which are fucking Democrats. And the orders that Obama made that loosened up the intelligence sharing need to be rescinded. Should have been done day one. I dont think Trump realizes how much power he has. He controls the executive branch. He can order new investigations into everything. Is Sessions doesnt want to do it then he can appoint a special counsel. Go after all the leakers. Big names need to go to jail. I don't like this Sam I Am I don't like Trump's Skeleton Jam King Jong Un wants to blast California bounty So none shall pass. I say stop I say no North Korea has to go There are no Brains in Trump's Trust, As California nears The Era of Dust Trump better get all those people back in here, and TURN THOSE FUCKING MACHINES BACK ON Sleep tight. Trump will send Kim Jong and 20 million NKs to the afterlife before he lets them harm one hair on a California commie's head. The same commie that would gladly watch Trump die. The ironing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 13:06:29 GMT -5
How? A Limited Nuclear strike; next to China? All this seems fantasy
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 4, 2017 13:12:31 GMT -5
How? A Limited Nuclear strike; next to China? All this seems fantasy Nukes are so 50 years ago. Our MOABs are stronger than nukes and dont ruin the environment. Think of them as "green nukes". See, something even Californians can support.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 13:14:52 GMT -5
IDK how can you drag one of those pigs into place when the competition has an ICBM? Asking for 38 million friends
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 13:16:13 GMT -5
Think of the strawberries!
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 4, 2017 13:44:31 GMT -5
IDK how can you drag one of those pigs into place when the competition has an ICBM? Asking for 38 million friends Lord only knows what kind of hellfire we have stashed on our bases in South Korea. Im sure they have plenty of goodies. A couple of things are important to know. First is that all of NK successful nuke detonations have occurred underground. As far as their ICBMs go, they have had some disaster launches that have blown up essentially in their faces. "Experts" say that launching a nuke is not imminent for them but they may have the capability some time during Trump's first term. We also have the best missile defense systems in the world. If they ever launched something it would never reach the continental US. But we have friends and allies in Asia who are in danger. And this problem has been brewing for over 20 years now. Clinton created it and Bush and Obama kicked the can down the road. As well as the rest of the world. It will come down to what we have the stomach for doing. Do we handle the issue before they can hurt us and kill many innocent people in the process or do we wait for American blood to be spilled and then handle it and still kill innocent people. Because that is what we are talking about here. I think I have a good idea where Trump sits on that issue. But what about Congress and the American public and the rest of the world?
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Post by Trades on Aug 4, 2017 13:53:55 GMT -5
IDK how can you drag one of those pigs into place when the competition has an ICBM? Asking for 38 million friends Lord only knows what kind of hellfire we have stashed on our bases in South Korea. Im sure they have plenty of goodies. A couple of things are important to know. First is that all of NK successful nuke detonations have occurred underground. As far as their ICBMs go, they have had some disaster launches that have blown up essentially in their faces. "Experts" say that launching a nuke is not imminent for them but they may have the capability some time during Trump's first term. We also have the best missile defense systems in the world. If they ever launched something it would never reach the continental US. But we have friends and allies in Asia who are in danger. And this problem has been brewing for over 20 years now. Clinton created it and Bush and Obama kicked the can down the road. As well as the rest of the world. It will come down to what we have the stomach for doing. Do we handle the issue before they can hurt us and kill many innocent people in the process or do we wait for American blood to be spilled and then handle it and still kill innocent people. Because that is what we are talking about here. I think I have a good idea where Trump sits on that issue. But what about Congress and the American public and the rest of the world? Another point is that North Korea's "stockpile" of ICBMs are made of balsa wood for parades. We won't be playing missile command. They will be firing one or two missiles. This isn't War Games. There will be 1 or 2 targets to hit. I have faith in our missile defense.
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