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Post by Paradis on Jan 5, 2015 13:57:21 GMT -5
Dunno if you guys saw this, but could play a factor...
Honestly, the best thing for him is undoubtedly to be return. More to get his life and image together w/r to football. I don't think his "Game" stands to improve by spending another year in College. He's ready to play with the big boys...
Personally, i kind of want him to declare as we may be in a good position to take him at the top of 2. If he sticks around and blows up in OKL (cause you know he will) then he probably goes top 10 next year and we're no longer guaranteed to even have a shot at him.
If you can't tell already, I have a 16 foot hard on for DGB
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Post by Touchable on Jan 5, 2015 14:05:15 GMT -5
He'd be a total fucking idiot to come out this year...but then again, that's exactly what he is.
If he stays at Oklahoma and has a big season and keeps his nose clean, then like you said, he's probably a Top 10 pick in 2016. Hell, maybe even Top 5.
If he comes out this year he's not going any higher than the beginning of Round 2 and it will cost him millions.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Jan 5, 2015 14:07:46 GMT -5
Dunno if you guys saw this, but could play a factor... Honestly, the best thing for him is undoubtedly to be return. More to get his life and image together w/r to football. I don't think his "Game" stands to improve by spending another year in College. He's ready to play with the big boys... Personally, i kind of want him to declare as we may be in a good position to take him at the top of 2. If he sticks around and blows up in OKL (cause you know he will) then he probably goes top 10 next year and we're no longer guaranteed to even have a shot at him. If you can't tell already, I have a 16 foot hard on for DGB You and I covet those big receivers as much as anyone around here, DGBs upside is tremendous, but he does have a pretty big downside as well. Aside from OU changing O coordinators, Trevor Knight hasn't looked to be the QB that many thought after that victory against Alabama in the their bowl game over a year ago. The question will be where do you draft the kid? Do you pass on Cooper or Parker because you think you can get DGB in the second? That's a massive risk. |
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Post by Touchable on Jan 5, 2015 14:12:55 GMT -5
Dunno if you guys saw this, but could play a factor... Honestly, the best thing for him is undoubtedly to be return. More to get his life and image together w/r to football. I don't think his "Game" stands to improve by spending another year in College. He's ready to play with the big boys... Personally, i kind of want him to declare as we may be in a good position to take him at the top of 2. If he sticks around and blows up in OKL (cause you know he will) then he probably goes top 10 next year and we're no longer guaranteed to even have a shot at him. If you can't tell already, I have a 16 foot hard on for DGB You and I covet those big receivers as much as anyone around here, DGBs upside is tremendous, but he does have a pretty big downside as well. Aside from OU changing O coordinators, Trevor Knight hasn't looked to be the QB that many thought after that victory against Alabama in the their bowl game over a year ago. The question will be where do you draft the kid? Do you pass on Cooper or Parker because you think you can get DGB in the second? That's a massive risk. Shit no |
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Post by sec.101row23 on Jan 5, 2015 14:16:49 GMT -5
You and I covet those big receivers as much as anyone around here, DGBs upside is tremendous, but he does have a pretty big downside as well. Aside from OU changing O coordinators, Trevor Knight hasn't looked to be the QB that many thought after that victory against Alabama in the their bowl game over a year ago. The question will be where do you draft the kid? Do you pass on Cooper or Parker because you think you can get DGB in the second? That's a massive risk. Shit no Exactly, that's why I think for the Jets he really is a non factor in this draft, unless he fell to the 3rd round for some reason and you want to double up on WR. |
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Post by Touchable on Jan 5, 2015 14:19:23 GMT -5
Exactly, that's why I think for the Jets he really is a non factor in this draft, unless he fell to the 3rd round for some reason and you want to double up on WR. Agreed I'm not passing on a Cooper or Parker just to wait around and see if we can draft a kid with a high ceiling but also a high bust potential in the 2nd round. Now, like you said, if DGB was still hanging around in the 3rd then I'd jump all over his ass. |
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Post by Paradis on Jan 5, 2015 15:14:43 GMT -5
The question will be where do you draft the kid? Do you pass on Cooper or Parker because you think you can get DGB in the second? That's a massive risk. Shit no It's easy to say DGB should stick around next year, there's obviously reasons to do so, but i don't think it's slam dunk. Like you said, there's questions about OKL and he may just be "done" with college scene altogether. ...Now if DGB interviews well (huge IF) and tests well in offseason workouts -- which he will -- then you might find teams especially at the end of the first, who'll say fuck it. Let's roll the dice. Would i pass on Cooper? Yes.... Parker, ehhh. I dunno. I really like Parker. He's right there behind DGB and doesn't have nearly the same risk. Frankly, I think Cooper goes to OAK, and we end up taking an OT or Wince*ston Which would put us on the map to look at DGB in the 2nd, or Justin Hardy.. whom i love just as much as Parker. |
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Post by sec.101row23 on Jan 5, 2015 16:05:17 GMT -5
It's easy to say DGB should stick around next year, there's obviously reasons to do so, but i don't think it's slam dunk. Like you said, there's questions about OKL and he may just be "done" with college scene altogether. ...Now if DGB interviews well (huge IF) and tests well in offseason workouts -- which he will -- then you might find teams especially at the end of the first, who'll say fuck it. Let's roll the dice. Would i pass on Cooper? Yes.... Parker, ehhh. I dunno. I really like Parker. He's right there behind DGB and doesn't have nearly the same risk. Frankly, I think Cooper goes to OAK, and we end up taking an OT or Wince*ston Which would put us on the map to look at DGB in the 2nd, or Justin Hardy.. whom i love just as much as Parker. If I am the Colts I take a serious look at DGB late in the first. Indy has little at WR with Wayne being broken down and Hilton dropping 3-4 passes every game. If you put DGB in that offense with the TEs they have and Hilton as a complementary receiver, you could have a scary offense with Luck leading that group. |
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Jan 5, 2015 16:08:04 GMT -5
It's easy to say DGB should stick around next year, there's obviously reasons to do so, but i don't think it's slam dunk. Like you said, there's questions about OKL and he may just be "done" with college scene altogether. ...Now if DGB interviews well (huge IF) and tests well in offseason workouts -- which he will -- then you might find teams especially at the end of the first, who'll say fuck it. Let's roll the dice. Would i pass on Cooper? Yes.... Parker, ehhh. I dunno. I really like Parker. He's right there behind DGB and doesn't have nearly the same risk. Frankly, I think Cooper goes to OAK, and we end up taking an OT or Wince*ston Which would put us on the map to look at DGB in the 2nd, or Justin Hardy.. whom i love just as much as Parker. If I am the Colts I take a serious look at DGB late in the first. Indy has little at WR with Wayne being broken down and Hilton dropping 3-4 passes every game. If you put DGB in that offense with the TEs they have and Hilton as a complementary receiver, you could have a scary offense with Luck leading that group. I could also see them taking Gordon or Gurley in the late first. |
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Post by RobR on Jan 5, 2015 18:45:02 GMT -5
Peat in the first and DGB in the second. That is a realistic outcome at this stage if he declares because this draft is strong at the top for WR's without any question marks. Throw in the fact how many teams went WR early last year and DGB will be there with our second pick.
Make it happen Tanny.
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Jan 5, 2015 18:50:06 GMT -5
Peat in the first and DGB in the second. That is a realistic outcome at this stage if he declares because this draft is strong at the top for WR's without any question marks. Throw in the fact how many teams went WR early last year and DGB will be there with our second pick. Make it happen Tanny. And Duke Johnson in the 3rd.  |
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Post by RobR on Jan 5, 2015 18:53:06 GMT -5
Peat in the first and DGB in the second. That is a realistic outcome at this stage if he declares because this draft is strong at the top for WR's without any question marks. Throw in the fact how many teams went WR early last year and DGB will be there with our second pick. Make it happen Tanny. And Duke Johnson in the 3rd. Again....very realistic. And I would have a 17 foot hard-on if that happened. |
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Post by Touchable on Jan 5, 2015 19:36:19 GMT -5
Peat in the first and DGB in the second. That is a realistic outcome at this stage if he declares because this draft is strong at the top for WR's without any question marks. Throw in the fact how many teams went WR early last year and DGB will be there with our second pick. Make it happen Tanny. And Duke Johnson in the 3rd. I think Duke is going to go early-mid 2nd round. Very comparable to Gio Bernard in every way Ideally I'd take Cooper at #6 and then come back and take Duke in the 2nd. Then go LB/CB/OL in the 3rd depending on what we do in FA. |
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Post by RobR on Jan 5, 2015 20:05:32 GMT -5
And Duke Johnson in the 3rd. Very comparable to Gio Bernard in every way Ideally I'd take Cooper at #6 and then come back and take Duke in the 2nd. Then go LB/CB/OL in the 3rd depending on what we do in FA. I think he'll be available with our third because of the WR and OT strength of this draft, not too mention two blue chippers at RB coming out this year. Those positional strengths always lead me back to my philosophy....draft to the strength of the draft. If only we did it last year. I'd be happy with a WR/OT first and second round either way as they are both positions of need and would allow us to finally start putting the building blocks in place for a great offense. The QB issue is a shit sandwich that I'm prepared too eat.....hopefully Geno plays better with a new staff in place. |
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Post by Lithfan on Jan 5, 2015 20:38:41 GMT -5
If we go with a high risk / high reward guy like DGB in the 2nd, then I sure hope we got with a high character, relatively safe pick in the first. Peat and DGB would be a nice 1-2 combo.
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