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Post by rexneffect on Jan 6, 2015 10:35:02 GMT -5
I share some agreement with the anti-police movement but I'm not sure how interrupting brunch is an effective use of time or resources.
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Post by DDNYjets on Jan 6, 2015 10:35:51 GMT -5
Kat Scratch Fever! Is she even black? Its 2015. "Black" is a state of mind. P.S. It has male hardware. Therefore it is a he. Regardless of what it identifies as. |
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Post by flushingjet on Jan 6, 2015 10:39:40 GMT -5
guinea The most vile racial slur that can be used against an Italian-American. Refers to the Guinea Coast of Africa; using this slur is a very offensive way of implying that Italian-Americans are non-whites (something we tend to get very defensive about!!). Unlike the "N-word", which African-Americans sometimes use to address each other, no Italian-American would ever address another Italian-American using this word. Nor would they use the word "wop" (also offensive, but not in a racial way). HOWEVER, it IS common for Italian-Americans to refer to each other as "dago"; this is used the same way that blacks use the N-word with each other. The only Italians who call each other Dago call Sauce Gravy.  Protesting Brunch is for people too indolent to get up in time to protest Breakfast. |
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Post by Jetworks on Jan 6, 2015 11:02:31 GMT -5
I share some agreement with the anti-police movement but I'm not sure how interrupting brunch is an effective use of time or resources. I'd say you share quite a bit more than agreement of that movement seeing as you find it perfectly acceptable to refer to it as " anti-police." Had you called it something along the lines of 'police reform' or 'increased accountability' you would've lent more to your credibility. Opportunity missed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 11:10:32 GMT -5
I share some agreement with the anti-police movement but I'm not sure how interrupting brunch is an effective use of time or resources. I'd say you share quite a bit more than agreement of that movement seeing as you find it perfectly acceptable to refer to it as " anti-police." Had you called it something along the lines of 'police reform' or 'increased accountability' you would've lent more to your credibility. Opportunity missed. +100 no one is asking for the public to treat police officers as perfect people, but Jesus this is out of control. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Jan 6, 2015 11:14:39 GMT -5
I share some agreement with the anti-police movement but I'm not sure how interrupting brunch is an effective use of time or resources. I'd say you share quite a bit more than agreement of that movement seeing as you find it perfectly acceptable to refer to it as " anti-police." Had you called it something along the lines of 'police reform' or 'increased accountability' you would've lent more to your credibility. Opportunity missed. QFT. He will deny it but at the very least it is subliminal. Kind of ironic when you think about it b.c these same people he shares "some agreement" with accuse police of being racist even if they don't know it. |
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Post by rexneffect on Jan 6, 2015 11:36:14 GMT -5
I share some agreement with the anti-police movement but I'm not sure how interrupting brunch is an effective use of time or resources. I'd say you share quite a bit more than agreement of that movement seeing as you find it perfectly acceptable to refer to it as " anti-police." Had you called it something along the lines of 'police reform' or 'increased accountability' you would've lent more to your credibility. Opportunity missed. What credibility did I need to establish by agreeing with everybody else in the thread? Had I opted to use a term other than the one I did, which is used widely by the media and would easily be recognized by others here, I would have been accused of political correctness or some other garbage. There's no reasonable argument to be had on this subject. |
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Post by Jetworks on Jan 6, 2015 11:49:06 GMT -5
I'd say you share quite a bit more than agreement of that movement seeing as you find it perfectly acceptable to refer to it as " anti-police." Had you called it something along the lines of 'police reform' or 'increased accountability' you would've lent more to your credibility. Opportunity missed. What credibility did I need to establish by agreeing with everybody else in the thread? Had I opted to use a term other than the one I did, which is used widely by the media and would easily be recognized by others here, I would have been accused of political correctness or some other garbage. There's no reasonable argument to be had on this subject. So, since you're going along with whatever is being reported, that, what? Makes it ok? Lazy? You establish credibility for your views by the words you choose to express said views. Comfort, laziness, or choice in utilizing the term "anti-police", to me, means you agree with that movement. I make a conscious effort to not use the term because I feel it represents a dangerous mindset, not because it's PC or something. If I'm misinterpreting what you said, please clarify it for me. I admit that your post was a bit confusing. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Jan 6, 2015 12:00:04 GMT -5
I'd say you share quite a bit more than agreement of that movement seeing as you find it perfectly acceptable to refer to it as " anti-police." Had you called it something along the lines of 'police reform' or 'increased accountability' you would've lent more to your credibility. Opportunity missed. What credibility did I need to establish by agreeing with everybody else in the thread? Had I opted to use a term other than the one I did, which is used widely by the media and would easily be recognized by others here, I would have been accused of political correctness or some other garbage. There's no reasonable argument to be had on this subject. jetworks offered two perfectly acceptable options. Just own up to it. You sympathize with the lawless. |
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Post by rexneffect on Jan 6, 2015 12:20:15 GMT -5
What credibility did I need to establish by agreeing with everybody else in the thread? Had I opted to use a term other than the one I did, which is used widely by the media and would easily be recognized by others here, I would have been accused of political correctness or some other garbage. There's no reasonable argument to be had on this subject. So, since you're going along with whatever is being reported, that, what? Makes it ok? Lazy? You establish credibility for your views by the words you choose to express said views. Comfort, laziness, or choice in utilizing the term "anti-police", to me, means you agree with that movement. I make a conscious effort to not use the term because I feel it represents a dangerous mindset, not because it's PC or something. If I'm misinterpreting what you said, please clarify it for me. I admit that your post was a bit confusing. Only confusing because you went looking for something that wasn't there. All I said was that, as somebody sympathetic to some of the positions of the movement--whatever you would like to call it--I still think the whole brunch thing was dumb. A point that we all seem to agree upon. |
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Post by cleatmarks on Jan 6, 2015 12:31:08 GMT -5
guinea The most vile racial slur that can be used against an Italian-American. Refers to the Guinea Coast of Africa; using this slur is a very offensive way of implying that Italian-Americans are non-whites (something we tend to get very defensive about!!). Unlike the "N-word", which African-Americans sometimes use to address each other, no Italian-American would ever address another Italian-American using this word. Nor would they use the word "wop" (also offensive, but not in a racial way). HOWEVER, it IS common for Italian-Americans to refer to each other as "dago"; this is used the same way that blacks use the N-word with each other. I've got to call BS on the Guinea comment. My father was 100% first generation Itailian and he reserved the word for those Italians who denied their heritige when they were growing up during the depression only to join up with the Italian American clubs when it became "cool" to be Italian. In the area he grew up in, being Italian at the time was to be lower class and there were many who denied their roots when they were growing up. He detested those individuals and I remember a specific instance when I was growing up.There was a local coffee shop where everyone used to go and one day, one of the older Italians, one of those guys who was always talking a little louder than the others, said to my father "Why don't you join the Italian Community Center?". My father never lifted his head from his coffee cup and said "You never wanted to be Italian when you grew up and now you want to pretend to be one. Go fuck yourself". My father never waivered from his principals. Those were Guineas to him. |
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Post by thebigragu on Jan 6, 2015 12:36:13 GMT -5
Wop means without papers. Dago means Day Go which was code the Irish used FOR a day laborer. Daygo. Guinea means exactly what it says. And none of them bother me in the slightest.
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Post by cleatmarks on Jan 6, 2015 12:43:28 GMT -5
Wop means without papers. Dago means Day Go which was code the Irish used FOR a day laborer. Daygo. Guinea means exactly what it says. And none of them bother me in the slightest. Wop is the one that I never really felt was much of an insult. As you said, it just means without papers or illegal (my family came over legally anyway) and isn't much of an insult IMO.
Dago or Guinea depends on how it was said but it was more about who was saying it and with what intent. By itself, they hold little meaning.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 12:46:26 GMT -5
So, since you're going along with whatever is being reported, that, what? Makes it ok? Lazy? You establish credibility for your views by the words you choose to express said views. Comfort, laziness, or choice in utilizing the term "anti-police", to me, means you agree with that movement. I make a conscious effort to not use the term because I feel it represents a dangerous mindset, not because it's PC or something. If I'm misinterpreting what you said, please clarify it for me. I admit that your post was a bit confusing. Only confusing because you went looking for something that wasn't there. All I said was that, as somebody sympathetic to some of the positions of the movement--whatever you would like to call it--I still think the whole brunch thing was dumb. A point that we all seem to agree upon. Th majority of stunts these protesters have pulled are senseless. Both "victims" they are hanging their arguments on/with were not innocent bystanders. |
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Post by thebigragu on Jan 6, 2015 12:48:00 GMT -5
Wop means without papers. Dago means Day Go which was code the Irish used FOR a day laborer. Daygo. Guinea means exactly what it says. And none of them bother me in the slightest. Wop is the one that I never really felt was much of an insult. As you said, it just means without papers or illegal (my family came over legally anyway) and isn't much of an insult IMO.
Dago or Guinea depends on how it was said but it was more about who was saying it and with what intent. By itself, they hold little meaning.
A northern Italian saying it to a southern Italian if not in good spirit will cause animosity. A non Italian saying it to an Italian fresh from Italy will start a fight. To me I could give a shit. I know they all think we're not white lol |
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