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Post by Trades on Oct 16, 2017 12:29:55 GMT -5
NYC school staff salaries up $555M, 'Occupy' teacher gets over $300G, report says
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Post by DDNYjets on Oct 16, 2017 16:46:05 GMT -5
If I didnt know about better I would say the worse the schools perform the more the teachers make.
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Post by Trades on Oct 16, 2017 17:53:19 GMT -5
If I didnt know about better I would say the worse the schools perform the more the teachers make. Because using liberal logic the only way to improve the schools is through more money. It has nothing to do with parents that don't care, putting the money toward the wrong things, school security, student culture and importing people who speak different languages from all over the world and expect the schools to cater to them rather than being expected to learn English. |
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Post by Trades on Oct 16, 2017 17:54:23 GMT -5
and I will add that I don't blame the teachers for taking as much money as they can. Just don't act like you are there out of altruism.
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Post by Big L on Oct 16, 2017 18:05:04 GMT -5
Most of them get paid peanuts.
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Post by Trades on Oct 16, 2017 20:55:35 GMT -5
Most of them get paid peanuts. That's not true anymore. Go to the link for better formatting but the top number is starting salary bottom is average salary. STATE AVERAGE STARTING SALARY AVERAGE SALARY Alabama $36,198 $47,949 Alaska $44,166 $65,468 Arkansas $32,691 $46,632 Arizona $31,874 $49,885 California $41,259 $69,324 Colorado $32,126 $49,844 Connecticut $42,924 $69,766 District of Columbia $51,539 $70,906 Delaware $39,338 $59,679 Florida $35,166 $46,944 Georgia $33,664 $52,880 Hawaii $41,027 $54,300 Iowa $33,226 $51,528 Idaho $31,159 $49,734 Illinois $37,166 $59,113 Indiana $34,696 $51,456 Kansas $33,386 $47,464 Kentucky $35,166 $50,326 Louisiana $38,655 $51,381 Massachusetts $40,600 $73,129 Maryland $43,235 $65,265 Maine $31,835 $48,119 Michigan $35,901 $61,560 Minnesota $34,505 $56,268 Missouri $30,064 $47,517 Mississippi $31,184 $41,994 Montana $27,274 $49,999 North Carolina $30,778 $45,947 North Dakota $32,019 $47,344 Nebraska $30,844 $48,931 New Hampshire $34,280 $55,599 New Jersey $48,631 $68,797 New Mexico $31,960 $46,573 Nevada $35,358 $55,957 New York $43,839 $75,279 Ohio $33,096 $58,092 Oklahoma $31,606 $44,128 Oregon $33,549 $58,758 Pennsylvania $41,901 $63,521 Rhode Island $39,196 $63,474 South Carolina $32,306 $47,924 South Dakota $29,851 $39,580 Tennessee $34,098 $48,289 Texas $38,091 $48,110 Utah $33,081 $49,393 Virginia $37,848 $49,869 Vermont $35,541 $52,526 Washington $36,335 $53,571 Wisconsin $33,546 $55,171 West Virginia $32,533 $46,405 Wyoming $43,269 $57,920 articles.niche.com/teacher-salaries-in-america/ |
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Post by Big L on Oct 16, 2017 21:02:27 GMT -5
Well then we have different ideas of what constitutes not making a lot of money.
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Post by Trades on Oct 16, 2017 21:12:13 GMT -5
Well then we have different ideas of what constitutes not making a lot of money. $43k starting salary in Wyoming. Seriously? NJ and NY almost $50k. My kids go to a top High School in NJ, top 6% in the country. Most of the teachers are place holders reading from a book. All the materials are handed to them. Those are all solid starting salaries and the averages are great when you consider that these people get pensions and health care for life. My father is a retired school teacher. I know what he had to do. It wasn't much. He was an art teacher. The kids loved him. I think he did a good job but it wasn't difficult, he was paid well and he is still paid well 16 years after retirement. |
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Post by Trades on Oct 16, 2017 21:13:48 GMT -5
Plus there is a big difference between "Most of them get paid peanuts." and "what constitutes not making a lot of money". Supply and demand. There are tons of applicants for every teaching job. Ever wonder why? It isn't the peanuts.
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Post by Jets Things on Oct 16, 2017 21:23:06 GMT -5
My mother, a retired educator, has long stuck by her belief that being a teacher is a part time job with full benefits and pension. Yeah, teachers have it rough because kids are awful, but common!!
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Post by DDNYjets on Oct 17, 2017 6:31:13 GMT -5
Starting salary is irrelevant. Even though it is pretty good compared to other professions. Have to take a look at total compensation. Tenure, benefits and vacation. Also their pay scale and how it increases each year.
Dont get me wrong, I would never want to be a teacher especially with how schools have become essentially daycares for undisciplined kids but they are well-compensated. Better than police who IMO are the most essential public employee. I can home school my kids if need be. I am not going to chase down someone with a gun who just murdered someone else.
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Post by adpz on Oct 17, 2017 9:34:06 GMT -5
Starting salary is irrelevant. Even though it is pretty good compared to other professions. Have to take a look at total compensation. Tenure, benefits and vacation. Also their pay scale and how it increases each year. Dont get me wrong, I would never want to be a teacher especially with how schools have become essentially daycares for undisciplined kids but they are well-compensated. Better than police who IMO are the most essential public employee. I can home school my kids if need be. I am not going to chase down someone with a gun who just murdered someone else. +1 I don't begrudge paying teachers - it's a very tough job in many ways. But good schooling has so much to do with being a good parent and raising a child well, to the point that money thrown at teachers doesn't make an effective difference. |
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Post by JStokes on Oct 17, 2017 10:09:02 GMT -5
Most of them get paid peanuts. That's not true anymore. Go to the link for better formatting but the top number is starting salary bottom is average salary. STATE AVERAGE STARTING SALARY AVERAGE SALARY Alabama $36,198 $47,949 Alaska $44,166 $65,468 Arkansas $32,691 $46,632 Arizona $31,874 $49,885 California $41,259 $69,324 Colorado $32,126 $49,844 Connecticut $42,924 $69,766 District of Columbia $51,539 $70,906 Delaware $39,338 $59,679 Florida $35,166 $46,944 Georgia $33,664 $52,880 Hawaii $41,027 $54,300 Iowa $33,226 $51,528 Idaho $31,159 $49,734 Illinois $37,166 $59,113 Indiana $34,696 $51,456 Kansas $33,386 $47,464 Kentucky $35,166 $50,326 Louisiana $38,655 $51,381 Massachusetts $40,600 $73,129 Maryland $43,235 $65,265 Maine $31,835 $48,119 Michigan $35,901 $61,560 Minnesota $34,505 $56,268 Missouri $30,064 $47,517 Mississippi $31,184 $41,994 Montana $27,274 $49,999 North Carolina $30,778 $45,947 North Dakota $32,019 $47,344 Nebraska $30,844 $48,931 New Hampshire $34,280 $55,599 New Jersey $48,631 $68,797 New Mexico $31,960 $46,573 Nevada $35,358 $55,957 New York $43,839 $75,279 Ohio $33,096 $58,092 Oklahoma $31,606 $44,128 Oregon $33,549 $58,758 Pennsylvania $41,901 $63,521 Rhode Island $39,196 $63,474 South Carolina $32,306 $47,924 South Dakota $29,851 $39,580 Tennessee $34,098 $48,289 Texas $38,091 $48,110 Utah $33,081 $49,393 Virginia $37,848 $49,869 Vermont $35,541 $52,526 Washington $36,335 $53,571 Wisconsin $33,546 $55,171 West Virginia $32,533 $46,405 Wyoming $43,269 $57,920 articles.niche.com/teacher-salaries-in-america/Just saw the column headings. Was actually hoping the higher amounts were for men and the lower for the womenz. _ |
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