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Post by BEAC0NJET on Mar 25, 2019 16:09:52 GMT -5
Im sure there were folks railing about job loss during the Industrial Revolution too. Automation is inevitable, and also doesn't happen overnight. Steering kids towards STEM will help future-proof them.
I LIKE self checkout. I like using kiosks to order.
As for UBI, Ive never been a fan of the concept, but now Im motivated to read up on Friedmans thoughts on it.
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Post by Hotman on Mar 25, 2019 16:33:57 GMT -5
Fuckin love me some self check out.
Strongly dislike when a place does not have and I must wait in a absurdly long line with some slow motion asshole ringing up everything and not even knowing how to bag shit. Infuriating.
And don't get me started on the POS morons at fuckin Wendy's and taco bell who will never in a million years get your order right to save their lives.
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Post by Trades on Mar 25, 2019 17:05:46 GMT -5
Fuckin love me some self check out. Strongly dislike when a place does not have and I must wait in a absurdly long line with some slow motion asshole ringing up everything and not even knowing how to bag shit. Infuriating. And don't get me started on the POS morons at fuckin Wendy's and taco bell who will never in a million years get your order right to save their lives. Exactly and these are the people that supposedly deserve a living wage for a job that pretty much every moron off the street can figure out how to do on their own. That is the problem with the idea that every job should be a life long career that you can raise you 8 kids on. |
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Post by Trades on Mar 29, 2019 12:28:12 GMT -5
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Post by Trades on Apr 5, 2019 8:32:12 GMT -5
I really like Mike Rowe and his message. This is long but a great interview.
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Post by adpz on Apr 5, 2019 8:39:22 GMT -5
That is the problem with the idea that every job should be a life long career that you can raise you 8 kids on. Lol - +100 |
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Post by adpz on Apr 5, 2019 9:07:39 GMT -5
As for UBI, Ive never been a fan of the concept, but now Im motivated to read up on Friedmans thoughts on it. He did a video series on welfare/UBI for PBS IIRC back in the late 70s - an easy way to take it in. His conception was more than UBI would replace other forms of direct government support. Current UBI ideas are really more on top of everything else. And reconfiguration is what Friedman supported because a core concept of individual economic freedom and advancement is having assets . Assets turn people into stewards, making decisions that benefit themselves and the whole community. Assets are also what individuals borrow against. When meaningful assets are not individually accumulable - either in a communist system or a socialist system where it becomes unrealistic (high marginal tax rates, inheritance taxes, punitive conceptions about wealth) - people are essentially 'renters' of all sorts of assets and get stuck in their economic level without much variability for advancement. The poor stay asset-less and poor. The middle-class trades a more solid floor for an ever-lower ceiling. And the rich buy condos in another country:) |
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Post by adpz on Apr 5, 2019 9:10:39 GMT -5
Ah here it is - it was called "Free To Choose" and as a 10-part series he did for PBS in 1980
Lol - imagine PBS supporting this stuff now. Surprised it has not been memory-holed off the interwebz......
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Apr 5, 2019 10:12:32 GMT -5
As for UBI, Ive never been a fan of the concept, but now Im motivated to read up on Friedmans thoughts on it. He did a video series on welfare/UBI for PBS IIRC back in the late 70s - an easy way to take it in. His conception was more than UBI would replace other forms of direct government support. Current UBI ideas are really more on top of everything else. And reconfiguration is what Friedman supported because a core concept of individual economic freedom and advancement is having assets . Assets turn people into stewards, making decisions that benefit themselves and the whole community. Assets are also what individuals borrow against. When meaningful assets are not individually accumulable - either in a communist system or a socialist system where it becomes unrealistic (high marginal tax rates, inheritance taxes, punitive conceptions about wealth) - people are essentially 'renters' of all sorts of assets and get stuck in their economic level without much variability for advancement. The poor stay asset-less and poor. The middle-class trades a more solid floor for an ever-lower ceiling. And the rich buy condos in another country:) Thanks. Im going to watch the videos. Its a concept I could potentially get behind, if implemented to replace other government handouts. I know more than a few hardworking people that are not on any sort of government assistance, but that could benefit from some form of UBI, to boost them to be able to become home owners and such. |
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Post by Trades on Apr 5, 2019 10:31:46 GMT -5
He did a video series on welfare/UBI for PBS IIRC back in the late 70s - an easy way to take it in. His conception was more than UBI would replace other forms of direct government support. Current UBI ideas are really more on top of everything else. And reconfiguration is what Friedman supported because a core concept of individual economic freedom and advancement is having assets . Assets turn people into stewards, making decisions that benefit themselves and the whole community. Assets are also what individuals borrow against. When meaningful assets are not individually accumulable - either in a communist system or a socialist system where it becomes unrealistic (high marginal tax rates, inheritance taxes, punitive conceptions about wealth) - people are essentially 'renters' of all sorts of assets and get stuck in their economic level without much variability for advancement. The poor stay asset-less and poor. The middle-class trades a more solid floor for an ever-lower ceiling. And the rich buy condos in another country:) Thanks. Im going to watch the videos. Its a concept I could potentially get behind, if implemented to replace other government handouts. I know more than a few hardworking people that are not on any sort of government assistance, but that could benefit from some form of UBI, to boost them to be able to become home owners and such. I feel the same way but do you see it ever getting rid of the other programs? And if by some miracle they did I would give it until the next election cycle for them to start pushing for a "new" additional welfare program. |
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Apr 5, 2019 11:03:57 GMT -5
Thanks. Im going to watch the videos. Its a concept I could potentially get behind, if implemented to replace other government handouts. I know more than a few hardworking people that are not on any sort of government assistance, but that could benefit from some form of UBI, to boost them to be able to become home owners and such. I feel the same way but do you see it ever getting rid of the other programs? And if by some miracle they did I would give it until the next election cycle for them to start pushing for a "new" additional welfare program. Not a chance! My man Thomas Sowell once said: |
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Post by Trades on Apr 10, 2019 21:44:02 GMT -5
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