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Post by greenwave on Apr 16, 2018 18:55:42 GMT -5
Rosen missed half his sophomore year with a shoulder injury and suffered two concussions last year and most jets fans are dying to get him. Some will remember that Luke Kuechly went out for the last few games of the '16 season with a pretty bad concussion. I live in Charlotte and when Luke went down early last year with the same thing, half the city thought he might actually retire. At 26. And it still might only take one more hit.
I'm sure if the Jets pass on Rosen he will become Peyton Manning 2.0, but I couldn't kill them if they passed on him due to the medical history.
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Post by greenwave on Apr 13, 2018 11:09:12 GMT -5
First, a hearty fuck you for posting this. I was 8, and that's honestly the first memory of real and vivid disappointment as a person. Even watching it now...that was so damn close anyway. While a late hit would definitely be called today, I think it was a borderline call back in '86. Both players barely took that second step before hitting him. Maybe the Jets wouldn't have beaten the Broncos, but I don't know why people assume that when Cleveland should have won that game too. OTOH as an athlete you are told not to leave your feet, and MG jumped...He just didn't have his cape on, I guess I found this looking for evidence to back me up LOLOL Swap out Namath on the ground for Vinny tripping over the invisible gopher in '99 and that's a pretty good microcosm of life as a Jets fan.
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Post by greenwave on Apr 13, 2018 8:35:21 GMT -5
First, a hearty fuck you for posting this. I was 8, and that's honestly the first memory of real and vivid disappointment as a person.
Even watching it now...that was so damn close anyway. While a late hit would definitely be called today, I think it was a borderline call back in '86. Both players barely took that second step before hitting him.
Maybe the Jets wouldn't have beaten the Broncos, but I don't know why people assume that when Cleveland should have won that game too.
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Post by greenwave on Apr 11, 2018 9:11:58 GMT -5
Never mind that I’d let his girlfriend shit in my mouth Fuckin right. Dude's stock just went up in my book.
Walk-on, 4-year starter, Heisman winner, Napoleonic complex (hopefully translating to hard-worker)...the Jets can and have done worse with every single QB selection other than Namath.
Like most I change damn near daily, but today I could care less between Rosen and Mayfield. I've only soured on Allen - after all I've read on him he feels like Browning Nagle.
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Post by greenwave on Apr 3, 2018 10:19:47 GMT -5
This That being said, if we end up with Mayfield, I wouldn't mind either I would. I'm not a Macc hater. But if he traded away THREE 2nd rounders to move up for Mayfield?! please. Keep in mind that if he sat at #6 and missed out on all 4, Mac is gone in principle before the season starts. They had to do it, and they may end up with Mayfield.
Honestly, this is a rare case where every Jets fan should be excited on draft day regardless of who is picked. Every single one of these guys has boom or bust potential, for varying reasons. We actually have the ability to think we got the right guy for the team regardless of who is picked - this isn't a case where it's either Cam Newton or Blaine Gabbert / Christian Ponder / Jake Locker; where there's a clear standout. All four of these guys are "even" in terms of how they may ultimately impact the league, so it's a rare good spot for the Jets. Let's enjoy it.
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Post by greenwave on Mar 28, 2018 8:40:56 GMT -5
I just realized that Darnold looks like a chubby Nuke Laloosh from Bull Durham. We don’t need Fat Tim Robbins on the Jets. Pass. Finally, some legitimate analysis on this board...
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Post by greenwave on Mar 13, 2018 15:36:23 GMT -5
I think 32 is right in that either the guy doesn't play 16, or he plays 16 because he's a shell of himself and goes out there like Penny in '03.
But on the surface, not a bad move. They can still get a QB in Rd 1, or if the guy they love is already gone they at least have someone competent under center if they go another direction with #6.
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Post by greenwave on Mar 13, 2018 12:41:53 GMT -5
If Cousins is mediocre / not that good, then I have a hypothetical (admittedly a worthless one since Cousins is already gone).
Rookie QB comes in. In year 2, he throws for 4,000 yards. In years 3 & 4 he also throws for 4,000 yards. The team never wins more than 8 games though, and the supporting cast is never quite up to par in that timeframe.
Would you resign the QB? To what would certainly be a well over $100M contract?
Resign him because he'll only be, what, 25 or 26 years old or so at that time. Just entering the prime of his career and hopefully only getting better while this team hopefully continues to improve. This team is not even close to being able to compete or win a super bowl and cousins will soon be on the wrong side of 30. No thanks. He needs to be on a win now team like the vikings. That's the right situation for that guy. Two completely different scenarios I might argue that the scenarios aren't that far apart when you consider how long good QBs play, but fair response and I guess in the end it doesn't matter at this point.
Now all the Jets need to do is draft that QB that with the ability to throw for 4,000 yards in three consecutive seasons. I'm sure this will be the year that happens, after the 50-year wait...
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Post by greenwave on Mar 13, 2018 12:32:39 GMT -5
Interesting that you feel that way after celebrating missing out on the only known franchise QB available.
Fuck cousins. He'll eat up the salary cap and he's not even that good. The guy has won nothing in this league. All he'd do is guarantee us more mediocrity and middle first round picks. Get a young QB for cheap and build a team. Look at the eagles with wentz. If Cousins is mediocre / not that good, then I have a hypothetical (admittedly a worthless one since Cousins is already gone).
Rookie QB comes in. In year 2, he throws for 4,000 yards. In years 3 & 4 he also throws for 4,000 yards. The team never wins more than 8 games though, and the supporting cast is never quite up to par in that timeframe.
Would you resign the QB? To what would certainly be a well over $100M contract?
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Post by greenwave on Mar 13, 2018 12:26:16 GMT -5
Let the midgets take him and pass on a QB. Hopefully the jets move up to 3 and take rosen. You can't build a team without a franchise qb. Interesting that you feel that way after celebrating missing out on the only known franchise QB available.
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Post by greenwave on Mar 12, 2018 6:46:55 GMT -5
Guess which QB the Jets will draft? I’ll guess the one that’s closest to Ryan Leaf and will be out of the league in less than 3 years. That's been the Jets MO for years. They're looking for the next Joe Namath. They'll end up with Browning Nagle. Jets only shot at a real QB is to throw money at Cousins.Exactly. That's why I don't understand why so many are against Cousins. Right here is a thread where not a single fan thinks the Jets will actually pick the right QB, but some of those same fans want nothing to do with Cousins.
If you get Kirk, then you're left with the best RB, OL or DB available, and without the fear that the team ends up with another player that sets them back several years. I recognize now Cousins probably won't happen, but in principle there is no better move for this team in the offseason.
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Post by greenwave on Mar 1, 2018 15:58:39 GMT -5
$98M in cap space after Forte retiring and Mo cut. Skrine not even cut yet. Media overlooking us as a legit option for Cousins. I think the Jets should go after both Sammy Watkins and Allen Robinson as a pair on day 1. Bowles said he was worried about Robby (still keep him) & Enunwa might not start training camp. We need reliable weapons for Cousins. Resign ASJ. All of a sudden, media is on our dick if Cousins sign here with Robinson & Watkins. As a cherry on top, I'd trade up for Barkley. Kirk Cousins Saquon Barkley Bilal Powell Elijah McGuire ASJ Clemson TE we drafted last year (forgot name.) Sammy Watkins Allen Robinson Jermaine Kearse Quincy Enunwa Robby Anderson Swap out Watkins or Robinson for best available OL in free agency and I'll take this.
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Post by greenwave on Feb 19, 2018 14:53:41 GMT -5
For the record, we fully agree on 'Kirk'.
But on getting killed - so will a rookie. Except a rookie's development will be stunted, whereas Cousins might actually raise the level of performance of the team. Solidfying the QB spot makes you better everywhere. If KC wasn't available, I'd say go with the rookie of course, but the Jets have a chance to accelerate the rebound here with a relatively young player at the top of his game at the most important position on the field, with draft picks to support.
Cousins will likely turn the Jets away, but in my view this move is a no-brainer for the fans of this shitty team. We would all sign up today for a rookie that eventually grows into a player that can throw for 4K in 3 straight seasons. Why not get the young player who JUST did that, and is available now without the need for development time?
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Post by greenwave on Feb 19, 2018 14:38:56 GMT -5
I ll go on record now. Don't do it. No. Bad feeling boys. I guess when you've spent your entire adult life as a fan of a team that has only seen a QB top 4,000 yards passing one time (and by 7 whole yards), the thought of having a QB on the roster that threw for 4,000 yards in 3 consecutive seasons would of course give you a horrible feeling.
Why go for the guy who's just entering his prime and has excelled for multiple consecutive seasons with a weak supporting cast, when you can mortgage a bit more of your future on pure hope that some random rookie can grow into the level of productivity that the available veteran has already established?
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Post by greenwave on Jan 31, 2018 8:00:06 GMT -5
“And it is fair to be concerned that Cousins' passer rating dropped from 2015 (his first full season as Washington's starter) to 2016 and then again from 2016 to 2017 and that his numbers plummeted during this season—from September (105.3 rating) to October (102.0) to November (94.6) to December (75.0). Free-agent departures and injuries surely played a role, but it's also possible the flawed 2012 fourth-round pick has already reached the summit of his career.” Overpay for a used dildo on the downside? No thanks. Cousins' worst year as a full-time starter is still better than any year that any QB for this team has had since the merger. The only competition for that would be Vinny in '98 and Penny in '02. And Cousins did it with talent on the outside that might actually be worse than what the Jets trotted out this year.
I really everybody wants the shiny new toy, and yeah, of course it would be nice to have a true franchise QB that stays for 15 years or more. I just don't see why so many people are down on Cousins as if he wouldn't immediately be the best QB this team has had in half a century. Especially when we know that a top QB (or 2, or 3) will be off the board when the Jets pick, decreasing the odds of making the right choice.
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