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Post by vicmill on Jan 22, 2015 13:05:34 GMT -5
I don't know if the Jets were high on this kid or not or if he's even going to turn into a good player, but they could have easily drafted him. Except, they were high on Tajh Boyd, which means Rex was high on him. You know he was probably telling anyone in the organization that would listen ... I know this kid, I've watched him practice a hundred times, my son says his teammates love him, he's going to be a star. Hell, he might have even gone to Woody to plead his case to overide Idzik. Well, now Rex is Buffalo's problem. Good luck Western NY. www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/51737/59/next-years-startersHONORABLE MENTION 15. Zach Mettenberger, QB, Titans The Titans won’t necessarily use the No. 2 overall pick on a quarterback. Both the front office and coaches legitimately seem high on Zach Mettenberger, who showed the kind of aggressiveness fantasy owners like to see while briefly flashing as a rookie. The Mett show averaged 7.88 yards per attempt, which would have ranked sixth in the league if he qualified.
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Jan 22, 2015 13:22:22 GMT -5
GMs draft players. If Rex suggested Boyd and Idzik didn't like him or liked some else more he has to make the pick, it's his ass on the line. And it's why he was fired.
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Post by 20andout on Jan 22, 2015 13:51:42 GMT -5
Zack went at the top of sixth round, before Jets had any picks in that round. They took Boyd with their FOURTH sixth round (third comp) pick in the round
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Post by MDL JET on Jan 22, 2015 14:25:16 GMT -5
Last years draft costed this team big time. Between both Idzik and Rex. It was the deepest draft in a long time and we came away with what…Amaro? I'm not even sold yet on Pryor.
It's pathetic, I really wish this new regime was here one year sooner. Could've changed things around. Oh well, top 10 pick and ton of cap room is giving to them this year. Lets see what they do.
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Post by vicmill on Jan 22, 2015 14:37:03 GMT -5
GMs draft players. If Rex suggested Boyd and Idzik didn't like him or liked some else more he has to make the pick, it's his ass on the line. And it's why he was fired. You can't envision a scenario where Rex went to Woody and sold him Boyd? And Woody told Idzik, Rex loves this kid; we'll pick him late and we'll have a diamond in the rough. Lets take the rest of the QBs off our draft board. If you can't envision that, then you haven't been paying attention.
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Jan 22, 2015 16:12:06 GMT -5
GMs draft players. If Rex suggested Boyd and Idzik didn't like him or liked some else more he has to make the pick, it's his ass on the line. And it's why he was fired. You can't envision a scenario where Rex went to Woody and sold him Boyd? And Woody told Idzik, Rex loves this kid; we'll pick him late and we'll have a diamond in the rough. Lets take the rest of the QBs off our draft board. If you can't envision that, then you haven't been paying attention. It's the GMs call. Now we're adding the owner made the pick for the HC? I'm not paying attention? You don't have a basic idea of how an org is run. The HC can make a suggestion to the GM but the GM has the final say. Maid you not pay attention to what Maccagnan said Wednesday? Nevermind once again, zach was picked in he top of the 6th well before we picked, Boyd went with the 4th of our 6 round picks, a pure throw away pick. People need to get over arguing about bottom of the 6th draft picks, it's a total crap shoot.
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Post by vicmill on Jan 22, 2015 16:33:03 GMT -5
You can't envision a scenario where Rex went to Woody and sold him Boyd? And Woody told Idzik, Rex loves this kid; we'll pick him late and we'll have a diamond in the rough. Lets take the rest of the QBs off our draft board. If you can't envision that, then you haven't been paying attention. It's the GMs call. Now we're adding the owner made the pick for the HC? I'm not paying attention? You don't have a basic idea of how an org is run. The HC can make a suggestion to the GM but the GM has the final say. Maid you not pay attention to what Maccagnan said Wednesday? Nevermind once again, zach was picked in he top of the 6th well before we picked, Boyd went with the 4th of our 6 round picks, a pure throw away pick. People need to get over arguing about bottom of the 6th draft picks, it's a total crap shoot. I realize that in most organizations it's the GM's call. But in most organizations, the GM hires the head coach. When the owner forces the GM to live with a HC he didn't pick, its quite possible that the HC has the owner's ear and can make suggestions to the owner that end up becoming edicts from the owner to GM. Look, none of us are inside watching what goes on, so it is 100% speculation. But Rex clearly had Woody's ear and Rex clearly had a woody for Boyd. Do you think its just coincidence that while Idzik and Rex didn't seem to agree on anything, the one thing they agreed on was Tajh Boyd?
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Jan 22, 2015 16:36:09 GMT -5
One more time, the GM is the last line, makes the pick or agrees to the pick which is one the same. Doesn't make a difference who got his ear, if he hands in the pick, it's his.
No matter how much someone wants to pile on Rex through pure speculation.
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Post by vicmill on Jan 22, 2015 17:12:05 GMT -5
One more time, the GM is the last line, makes the pick or agrees to the pick which is one the same. Doesn't make a difference who got his ear, if he hands in the pick, it's his. No matter how much someone wants to pile on Rex through pure speculation. How do you know? How many war rooms have you observed? Were you privy to the discussions bewteen Rex and Woody, Idzik and Woody and Rex and Idzik? I agree that what you are describing is the way we are told it usually works but the Jets were not a usual organization, with the GM being forced to work with a HC he didn't pick and an owner who treated the HC like a son. Its the owner's team; he can do whatever he wants.
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Post by rangerous on Jan 22, 2015 17:30:52 GMT -5
One more time, the GM is the last line, makes the pick or agrees to the pick which is one the same. Doesn't make a difference who got his ear, if he hands in the pick, it's his. No matter how much someone wants to pile on Rex through pure speculation. How do you know? How many war rooms have you observed? Were you privy to the discussions bewteen Rex and Woody, Idzik and Woody and Rex and Idzik? I agree that what you are describing is the way we are told it usually works but the Jets were not a usual organization, with the GM being forced to work with a HC he didn't pick and an owner who treated the HC like a son. Its the owner's team; he can do whatever he wants. i haven't been in any war rooms but it's plenty clear that neither rex nor idzik were seeing eye to eye on anything. imo idzik made it clear to rex that he was looking for a new coach. rex was given an ultimatum by idzik win or be fired. last season when they went 8-8, idzik had no choice but to hold his tongue. rex sat back and took it instead of fighting for what he wants. woody said it all when he said rex never spoke up during meetings especially if he had an issue with what was being done. there was probably a whole lot of back biting behind the scenes. as for the argument about idzik needing to pick his own coach and rex being forced on him, etc. what's wrong with idzik trying to work with the coach and make sure he is doing his job? idzik was a bean counter first and didn't know a thing about what kind of players rex needed. yeah you can make the argument that he drafted milliner and mcdougle and even pryor but what good are players who are injured? and i still don't know what was going through the guys mind with keeping colon and letting howard go for giacomini. imo the oline was the biggest blunder. as for this argument about taj boyd, he was the 4th 6th round draft pick. maybe not a throwaway in the sense that all draft picks are worth something but certainly nothing to get overly upset about regardless who wanted him. imo boyd didn't want to be converted into a safety or receiver and so he was released. maybe geno should've been launched instead. anyway i's all over and done with. sounds like bowles and macgagnon will be working closely to improve the team.
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Post by DDNYjets on Jan 22, 2015 17:51:47 GMT -5
GMs draft players. If Rex suggested Boyd and Idzik didn't like him or liked some else more he has to make the pick, it's his ass on the line. And it's why he was fired. As per Rex and Idzik about a million times, our draft picks are "Jet decisions". And that is why a lot of people were fired.
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Post by rxd on Jan 22, 2015 19:41:15 GMT -5
So Rex was able to force Idziot to pick Boyd but wasn't able to get any decent corners?!?
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 22, 2015 19:59:21 GMT -5
GMs draft players. If Rex suggested Boyd and Idzik didn't like him or liked some else more he has to make the pick, it's his ass on the line. And it's why he was fired. You can't envision a scenario where Rex went to Woody and sold him Boyd? And Woody told Idzik, Rex loves this kid; we'll pick him late and we'll have a diamond in the rough. Lets take the rest of the QBs off our draft board. If you can't envision that, then you haven't been paying attention. The fact that Woody changed the org structure this time around so the head coach (Bowles) reports to him instead of the GM, suggests the opposite IMO
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Post by greenwave on Jan 22, 2015 20:40:04 GMT -5
Watching people try to pick who was worse between Idzik and Rex is like the South Park episode where they were torn between voting for a douche or a turd sandwich.
They both fucking sucked. And this is coming from a Rex fan.
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Post by richcasterfan on Jan 22, 2015 21:22:06 GMT -5
Who cares whose idea it was to draft Boyd? Idzik, Rex and Boyd are all gone. Time to look forward, not backward.
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