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McCown?
Feb 12, 2015 0:47:04 GMT -5
Post by choon328 on Feb 12, 2015 0:47:04 GMT -5
For fans of a team who haven't had a QB in 8 years you're all very picky. This is the perfect guy to come in and compete for the starting job. There is nobody else out there in FA that has had his success (as limited as it may be). Plus he played on a terrible team last year. He got sacked 36 times in 11 games last year, that's horrific offensive line play and he had no running game. I would expect the Jets to be in on him with also the Bills, Titans and Texans. He would have a chance to compete for the starting job on any of those teams. Plus I'd rather the Jets not take a QB in the 1st round this year unless Winston falls to 6, which isn't going to happen. I'd like a playmaker at 6 on offense or defense and I don't believe in Mariota in a pro offense. No matter how you slice it, he's a mid 30's, I think, QB who was no better than the guy we want to replace. And Geno in his defense is a second year player who in theory should improve. McCown played worse than he did in his short success a year earlier. Signing him does absolutely nothing for this tesm. I would take a chance with either Winston or Mariota in a second. Not doing it would be reckless I don't think you can draft a QB that high without him being the day 1 starter. And I don't think Mariota will play well enough early on to beat out Geno. Especially since his transition to an NFL offense will be just as rough as Geno's was. Mariota does nothing for me at all and Winston won't be there at 6. You're at least getting a veteran backup QB if you bring in McCown. If Winston and Mariota aren't there at 6, who are you bringing in via free agency to be Geno's backup or to compete for the job? Who is out there that is better than McCown? The answer is nobody.
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Post by heymangold on Feb 12, 2015 3:57:11 GMT -5
everyone's clammoring for guys like Bradford, Locker - shit - even bringing back Sanchez. how can you justifiably say that those guys are better then McCown? Obviously he isn't the QB of the future but he's a decent stop-gap option, far more servicable then those guys. Look at what Gailey did with Tyler Thigpen and Ryan Fitzpatrick. McCown could be good.
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Post by JB1089 on Feb 12, 2015 5:46:43 GMT -5
Neither of those guys (not named Geno Smith) even made the Official VTN QBR list www.newyorkjetshampur.com/thread/1778/official-vtn-qbr-listI'd probably put McCown in the "overstayed their welcome" category, and Blake Bortles? I think needs a whole new category - "QB's with a name too stupid to be in the NFL". I will never understand how Blake Bortles and Johnny Manziel got drafted ahead of Teddy Bridgewater. Never.
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McCown?
Feb 12, 2015 9:34:43 GMT -5
Post by gangrene on Feb 12, 2015 9:34:43 GMT -5
I think this puts the "trade for Mike Glennon" idea to bed. He is going no where and will be competing in training camping with Mariota or Winston, probably Winston.
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McCown?
Feb 12, 2015 10:36:54 GMT -5
Post by sec.101row23 on Feb 12, 2015 10:36:54 GMT -5
This really shouldn't be a surprise. McCown isn't a very good QB and was due to make 5M dollars. This is why I never really gave much thought to the whole trading for Glennon thing, made no sense from Tampa's perspective. As far as McCown to the Jets, no way. His value is as a back up on a team with an established QB, on the Jets he has little to no value.
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McCown?
Feb 12, 2015 11:53:46 GMT -5
Post by Fishooked on Feb 12, 2015 11:53:46 GMT -5
No matter how you slice it, he's a mid 30's, I think, QB who was no better than the guy we want to replace. And Geno in his defense is a second year player who in theory should improve. McCown played worse than he did in his short success a year earlier. Signing him does absolutely nothing for this tesm. I would take a chance with either Winston or Mariota in a second. Not doing it would be reckless I don't think you can draft a QB that high without him being the day 1 starter. And I don't think Mariota will play well enough early on to beat out Geno. Especially since his transition to an NFL offense will be just as rough as Geno's was. Mariota does nothing for me at all and Winston won't be there at 6. You're at least getting a veteran backup QB if you bring in McCown. If Winston and Mariota aren't there at 6, who are you bringing in via free agency to be Geno's backup or to compete for the job? Who is out there that is better than McCown? The answer is nobody. The entire FA QB list is garbage, McCown included. Plus he's like the oldest QB on the list www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/quarterback/
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McCown?
Feb 12, 2015 12:08:32 GMT -5
Post by Harrier on Feb 12, 2015 12:08:32 GMT -5
I don't think you can draft a QB that high without him being the day 1 starter. And I don't think Mariota will play well enough early on to beat out Geno. Especially since his transition to an NFL offense will be just as rough as Geno's was. Mariota does nothing for me at all and Winston won't be there at 6. You're at least getting a veteran backup QB if you bring in McCown. If Winston and Mariota aren't there at 6, who are you bringing in via free agency to be Geno's backup or to compete for the job? Who is out there that is better than McCown? The answer is nobody. The entire FA QB list is garbage, McCown included. Plus he's like the oldest QB on the list www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/quarterback/Can I get my old handle back, cunty gets too much respect around here.
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McCown?
Feb 12, 2015 13:51:09 GMT -5
Post by Fishooked on Feb 12, 2015 13:51:09 GMT -5
Can I get my old handle back, cunty gets too much respect around here. Done....
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McCown?
Feb 12, 2015 14:01:54 GMT -5
Post by Harrier on Feb 12, 2015 14:01:54 GMT -5
Can I get my old handle back, cunty gets too much respect around here. Done.... Good un..... Now people think I have a vagina? I'd rather stay as cunty if "Harrier" can't be done.
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Post by Fishooked on Feb 12, 2015 14:04:50 GMT -5
Good un..... Now people think I have a vagina? I'd rather stay as cunty if "Harrier" can't be done. Done for real this time
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McCown?
Feb 12, 2015 14:08:14 GMT -5
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Post by Peebag on Feb 12, 2015 14:08:14 GMT -5
Pass - we're in rebuild mode pick up a qb in the draft and lets see what he does
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McCown?
Feb 12, 2015 14:10:31 GMT -5
Post by Harrier on Feb 12, 2015 14:10:31 GMT -5
Good un..... Now people think I have a vagina? I'd rather stay as cunty if "Harrier" can't be done. Done for real this time Much obliged, I'm still willing to trial any name that offends other users from time to time.
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McCown?
Feb 12, 2015 16:01:20 GMT -5
Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Feb 12, 2015 16:01:20 GMT -5
Neither of those guys (not named Geno Smith) even made the Official VTN QBR list www.newyorkjetshampur.com/thread/1778/official-vtn-qbr-listI'd probably put McCown in the "overstayed their welcome" category, and Blake Bortles? I think needs a whole new category - " QB's with a name too stupid to be in the NFL". I hope people realize just how relevant this is. There's a reason why guys like Heath Ledger, Blaine Gabbert and Kelly Stouffer were absolute busts. Never had a chance. Heath Ledger?
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Feb 12, 2015 16:30:58 GMT -5
No matter how you slice it, he's a mid 30's, I think, QB who was no better than the guy we want to replace. And Geno in his defense is a second year player who in theory should improve. McCown played worse than he did in his short success a year earlier. Signing him does absolutely nothing for this tesm. I would take a chance with either Winston or Mariota in a second. Not doing it would be reckless I don't think you can draft a QB that high without him being the day 1 starter. And I don't think Mariota will play well enough early on to beat out Geno. Especially since his transition to an NFL offense will be just as rough as Geno's was. Mariota does nothing for me at all and Winston won't be there at 6. You're at least getting a veteran backup QB if you bring in McCown. If Winston and Mariota aren't there at 6, who are you bringing in via free agency to be Geno's backup or to compete for the job? Who is out there that is better than McCown? The answer is nobody. I most certainly think you can draft Mariota at 6 and let him sit as long as it takes for him to develop. For one, its done all the time. Bortles didnt start, Eli didnt start. This isnt the old days where top 10 QBs got monster contracts, sucked up huge cap space and had to start. I see nothing in Mariotas game that says he cant adapt to the pro game. There isnt a throw he cant make, he has a strong arm, quick release and is accurate. He's a student of the game, a gym rat, smart and driven. Not getting where all this means he wont adapt to the NFL. Hate the Geno reference, just because he struggled doesnt mean every QB who plays his college ball out of the shotgun or in a spread O cant change. McCown is a veteran who has proved over and over that he isnt a starting NFL QB. Outside of a handful of games last year in Chicago he is the prototypical back up/scrub QB. More importantly he's no better than Geno, whats the point of a 36 year old scrub? Id rather take a chance on a Mallet who might be an improvement over Geno. Hoyer is better than McCown, Fitzpatrick is better than McCown. I'd rather see McCoy as the backup than McCown. Theyre all better QBs.
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McCown?
Feb 12, 2015 16:31:53 GMT -5
Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Feb 12, 2015 16:31:53 GMT -5
Can I get my old handle back, cunty gets too much respect around here. Cunt always does, in any form
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