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Post by Touchable on Mar 4, 2015 9:07:41 GMT -5
Exactly If Alonso is healthy, then he's a true building block for a defense. McCoy might put up a couple of 1200 yard seasons over the next 3-4 years, but I'll take the impact defender with a knack for making the big play. And as you said, this is one of the deepest RB classes in recent memory. The Eagles can take a Gordon or Gurley at #20 or pick up someone like Abdullah in the 2nd, plug them into Chip's system right away and not lose a beat. Whats funny is that they could have probably worked out a deal with Spiller that would cost them half as much as McCoy is going to cost them. Is McCoy really worth double what Spiller is right now? I don't think so. I think you could argue that Spiller is just as much of a gamebreaker as McCoy when healthy. And I think McCoy will soon realize that he no longer has the likes of Jason Peters, Evan Mathis, Jason Kelce and Lane Johnson paving the way.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Mar 4, 2015 9:10:41 GMT -5
Whats funny is that they could have probably worked out a deal with Spiller that would cost them half as much as McCoy is going to cost them. Is McCoy really worth double what Spiller is right now? I don't think so. I think you could argue that Spiller is just as much of a gamebreaker as McCoy when healthy. And I think McCoy will soon realize that he no longer has the likes of Jason Peters, Evan Mathis, Jason Kelce and Lane Johnson paving the way. It was just a horrendous trade on value alone.
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Post by jetswin on Mar 4, 2015 9:16:02 GMT -5
comparing Spiller to McCoy is laughable imho, McCoy has doubled his production and runs like he is playing in a Madden game. He is an NFL star and paid accordingly, Spiller is a talented role player
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Post by sec.101row23 on Mar 4, 2015 9:18:34 GMT -5
comparing Spiller to McCoy is laughable imho, McCoy has doubled his production and runs like he is playing in a Madden game. He is an NFL star and paid accordingly, Spiller is a talented role player No one is saying they are equal.
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Post by jetswin on Mar 4, 2015 9:22:57 GMT -5
comparing Spiller to McCoy is laughable imho, McCoy has doubled his production and runs like he is playing in a Madden game. He is an NFL star and paid accordingly, Spiller is a talented role player No one is saying they are equal. ok so it's not always moneyball even if this is a salary dump by the Eagles, McCoy vastly improves the Bills offense and from that perspective it's hard to say if the trade was better for either team or the rare double win.
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Post by Touchable on Mar 4, 2015 9:24:46 GMT -5
comparing Spiller to McCoy is laughable imho, McCoy has doubled his production and runs like he is playing in a Madden game. He is an NFL star and paid accordingly, Spiller is a talented role player McCoy has spent the last 2-3 years running behind arguably one of the Top 3 OL's in all of football. Meanwhile, Buffalo's OL has been shitastic outside of their center Eric Wood. Cordy Glenn's play fell off a cliff last season. Why do you think they were frothing at the mouth to sign a guy like Incognito who's been out of football for over a year? Spiller's issues have been health and the fact that he's been surrounded by dogshit for the majority of his career in Buffalo. Bottom line, I'll take Spiller for $4 million a year over McCoy for $10 million a year.
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Post by jetswin on Mar 4, 2015 9:32:32 GMT -5
comparing Spiller to McCoy is laughable imho, McCoy has doubled his production and runs like he is playing in a Madden game. He is an NFL star and paid accordingly, Spiller is a talented role player McCoy has spent the last 2-3 years running behind arguably one of the Top 3 OL's in all of football. Meanwhile, Buffalo's OL has been shitastic outside of their center Eric Wood. Cordy Glenn's play fell off a cliff last season. Why do you think they were frothing at the mouth to sign a guy like Incognito who's been out of football for over a year? Spiller's issues have been health and the fact that he's been surrounded by dogshit for the majority of his career in Buffalo. Bottom line, I'll take Spiller for $4 million a year over McCoy for $10 million a year. the bottom line is your figures are exaggerated, McCoy figure averages 8.25 per
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Post by Touchable on Mar 4, 2015 9:34:24 GMT -5
McCoy has spent the last 2-3 years running behind arguably one of the Top 3 OL's in all of football. Meanwhile, Buffalo's OL has been shitastic outside of their center Eric Wood. Cordy Glenn's play fell off a cliff last season. Why do you think they were frothing at the mouth to sign a guy like Incognito who's been out of football for over a year? Spiller's issues have been health and the fact that he's been surrounded by dogshit for the majority of his career in Buffalo. Bottom line, I'll take Spiller for $4 million a year over McCoy for $10 million a year. the bottom line is your figures are exaggerated, McCoy figure averages 8.25 per LOL Okay, so I guess I'll take Spiller for literally half of what McCoy makes. Bottom line, I'm not paying ANY RB more than $5-6 million a year.
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Post by Harrier on Mar 4, 2015 9:37:15 GMT -5
Bottom line is, there is no bottom line
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Post by sec.101row23 on Mar 4, 2015 9:41:12 GMT -5
McCoy has spent the last 2-3 years running behind arguably one of the Top 3 OL's in all of football. Meanwhile, Buffalo's OL has been shitastic outside of their center Eric Wood. Cordy Glenn's play fell off a cliff last season. Why do you think they were frothing at the mouth to sign a guy like Incognito who's been out of football for over a year? Spiller's issues have been health and the fact that he's been surrounded by dogshit for the majority of his career in Buffalo. Bottom line, I'll take Spiller for $4 million a year over McCoy for $10 million a year. the bottom line is your figures are exaggerated, McCoy figure averages 8.25 per He makes 10.5M this year and has no guaranteed money remaining. He wants an extension and wants more money than his current contract states. That's a huge reason why the Eagles traded him, he isn't going to play out the remaining years of that deal.
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Post by Augustiniak on Mar 4, 2015 9:47:23 GMT -5
This trade was so good for Eagles. First they got rid of McCoy who was going to make 10.5 M this year and second, Alonso allowed them to cut Trent Cole who they were not having any success in trying to negotiate a restructure. Saves them 17 million in cap space, and you have one of deepest RB classes we have seen in a while. Exactly If Alonso is healthy, then he's a true building block for a defense. McCoy might put up a couple of 1200 yard seasons over the next 3-4 years, but I'll take the impact defender with a knack for making the big play. And as you said, this is one of the deepest RB classes in recent memory. The Eagles can take a Gordon or Gurley at #20 or pick up someone like Abdullah in the 2nd, plug them into Chip's system right away and not lose a beat. my question is, are the eagles trying to free up cap space, fill as many holes in FA as they can, and then trade mucho draft picks for mariotta.
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Post by jetswin on Mar 4, 2015 9:51:26 GMT -5
yes there are reasons that justify the Eagles move, money being one, but look at it this way Spiller has never even played a playoff game, he isn't worth half of what McCoy makes his career has been a disappointment. McCoy is arguably top three in the NFL at his position. I know we like to play GM here and say player A isn't worth this if player B is worth that, but facts remain facts, a guy produces on the field and that is the only true measurable.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Mar 4, 2015 9:52:40 GMT -5
Exactly If Alonso is healthy, then he's a true building block for a defense. McCoy might put up a couple of 1200 yard seasons over the next 3-4 years, but I'll take the impact defender with a knack for making the big play. And as you said, this is one of the deepest RB classes in recent memory. The Eagles can take a Gordon or Gurley at #20 or pick up someone like Abdullah in the 2nd, plug them into Chip's system right away and not lose a beat. my question is, are the eagles trying to free up cap space, fill as many holes in FA as they can, and then trade mucho draft picks for mariotta. I think Kelly is trying to build the team he wants. I think he wants the flexibility in free agency so that IF a trade possibility arises come draft time that they have enough holes filled via free agency to pull the trigger.
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Post by Touchable on Mar 4, 2015 9:54:46 GMT -5
Exactly If Alonso is healthy, then he's a true building block for a defense. McCoy might put up a couple of 1200 yard seasons over the next 3-4 years, but I'll take the impact defender with a knack for making the big play. And as you said, this is one of the deepest RB classes in recent memory. The Eagles can take a Gordon or Gurley at #20 or pick up someone like Abdullah in the 2nd, plug them into Chip's system right away and not lose a beat. my question is, are the eagles trying to free up cap space, fill as many holes in FA as they can, and then trade mucho draft picks for mariotta. It's possible. I mean, let's be honest here. Let's say the Eagles sell the farm for Mariota, he's ultimately a bust and Kelly gets fired. Is Chip really going to give two shits? He can just go back to college where damn near every school in the nation will be lined up to throw the bank at him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 9:55:28 GMT -5
Why anybody is worried about this is beyond me. Rex will find a way to ruin McCoy, just like he has almost every other offensive player in comes in contact with.
Sure, Rex likes the ground and pound, but McCoy isn't a ground and pound guy.
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