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Post by sbiii on Mar 13, 2015 12:39:41 GMT -5
What we have needed for a long time is someone who has been in this league and has won games. Im telling you he will be a serviceable QB. With our revamped defense we wont have to score 30+ points a game. Maybe he will make Geno...better? I know Fitzpatrick has sucked...but we have seen teams sign vets and they have done well enough.
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Post by sadface on Mar 13, 2015 12:46:26 GMT -5
fact is he performed well enough to garner a significant contract extension under Gailey. this is reason enough to expect him to be decent here. Smith has more upside and hopefully will beat him out.
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Mar 13, 2015 12:48:26 GMT -5
How many times do you recommend me reading that pep talk before I actually start believing it?
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Post by jcappy on Mar 13, 2015 12:58:26 GMT -5
How many times do you recommend me reading that pep talk before I actually start believing it? |
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Post by rexneffect on Mar 13, 2015 14:17:49 GMT -5
Fitzpatrick may not be the upgrade at QB we all want but he's light years ahead of Geno and he's already familiar with our new OC's system. He should do a decent job of game managing for a season or two as we work on developing a long term solution.
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Post by TokyoJetsFan on Mar 13, 2015 16:14:51 GMT -5
Fitz has a quick release and can go through progressions without getting flustered, plus if we go to a West Coast Offense he won't have trouble figuring out the tine change.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Mar 13, 2015 16:22:21 GMT -5
Fitzpatrick has started 89 (played in 96) games and his record is 33-55-1 for a winning percentage of .376. Geno has started 29 (played in 30) and his record is 11-18 for a winning percentage of .379.
Consider the following game average for each.
Fitzpatrick 18.25 completions 30.32 attempts 60.2% 200.76 yards 1.4 TD's (passing and running) 1.05 Int .55 fumbles
Smith 15.53 completions 27 attempts 57.5% 185.7 yards 1.07 TD's (passing and running) 1.13 Int .43 fumbles
I thought that perhaps Fitz's ball security was much better now than when he was younger, but he played in 11 games in 2013 and had 12 Interceptions and 9 fumbles. There seems to be quite bit of evidence that season 10 for a 32 year old Amish Rifle, might not be as good as year 3 of a 24 year old Geno Smith provided Geno improves even slightly.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Mar 13, 2015 16:57:42 GMT -5
Fitzpatrick has started 89 (played in 96) games and his record is 33-55-1 for a winning percentage of .376. Geno has started 29 (played in 30) and his record is 11-18 for a winning percentage of .379. Consider the following game average for each. Fitzpatrick 18.25 completions 30.32 attempts 60.2% 200.76 yards 1.4 TD's (passing and running) 1.05 Int .55 fumbles Smith 15.53 completions 27 attempts 57.5% 185.7 yards 1.07 TD's (passing and running) 1.13 Int .43 fumbles I thought that perhaps Fitz's ball security was much better now than when he was younger, but he played in 11 games in 2013 and had 12 Interceptions and 9 fumbles. There seems to be quite bit of evidence that season 10 for a 32 year old Amish Rifle, might not be as good as year 3 of a 24 year old Geno Smith provided Geno improves even slightly. Not that I knew the exact stats but that's why I had "ugh" after Fitz's name in my FA list. Not much to choose from, bu I do think Hoyer would have been a better option. |
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Post by TokyoJetsFan on Mar 13, 2015 16:58:56 GMT -5
Fitzpatrick has started 89 (played in 96) games and his record is 33-55-1 for a winning percentage of .376. Geno has started 29 (played in 30) and his record is 11-18 for a winning percentage of .379. Consider the following game average for each. Fitzpatrick 18.25 completions 30.32 attempts 60.2% 200.76 yards 1.4 TD's (passing and running) 1.05 Int .55 fumbles Smith 15.53 completions 27 attempts 57.5% 185.7 yards 1.07 TD's (passing and running) 1.13 Int .43 fumbles I thought that perhaps Fitz's ball security was much better now than when he was younger, but he played in 11 games in 2013 and had 12 Interceptions and 9 fumbles. There seems to be quite bit of evidence that season 10 for a 32 year old Amish Rifle, might not be as good as year 3 of a 24 year old Geno Smith provided Geno improves even slightly. Well thought out response and you make a lot of great points....but I don't think I can stomach another Geno year |
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Post by rangerous on Mar 14, 2015 20:22:21 GMT -5
Fitzpatrick has started 89 (played in 96) games and his record is 33-55-1 for a winning percentage of .376. Geno has started 29 (played in 30) and his record is 11-18 for a winning percentage of .379. Consider the following game average for each. Fitzpatrick 18.25 completions 30.32 attempts 60.2% 200.76 yards 1.4 TD's (passing and running) 1.05 Int .55 fumbles Smith 15.53 completions 27 attempts 57.5% 185.7 yards 1.07 TD's (passing and running) 1.13 Int .43 fumbles I thought that perhaps Fitz's ball security was much better now than when he was younger, but he played in 11 games in 2013 and had 12 Interceptions and 9 fumbles. There seems to be quite bit of evidence that season 10 for a 32 year old Amish Rifle, might not be as good as year 3 of a 24 year old Geno Smith provided Geno improves even slightly. Well thought out response and you make a lot of great points....but I don't think I can stomach another Geno year isn't that the whole reason to get another qb? genot has simply sucked for the past two seasons. he got a pass as a rookie but he didn't show any improvement last season. he needs to be pushed up or pushed out. either way the jets win. fitz has had some good games and some bad games. i don't think he's been on a team with personnel equal to the jets so here's to hoping. |
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Post by cgjet on Mar 15, 2015 11:08:49 GMT -5
What the Jets get in Fitzpatrick is a smart quarterback who will quickly learn the new offense, partially because he has been exposed to it before. This being said, he should exhibit a good command of the offense, and make the right reads/decisions. Regarding decision making, he will not try to pass the ball behind his back on the goal line...remember that one? What the Jets will not get with Fitzpatrick is Geno's big arm, athleticism and most likely durability. I'm not a Geno hater, and when he's behind center, he's my guy. This better be the year the light comes on, the turnovers are reduced, and red zone production increases. It will be interesting to get the early camp reports as to how both are progressing. The wild card is, will the Jets draft or trade for another QB.
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Post by Paradis on Mar 15, 2015 11:58:52 GMT -5
Fitzpatrick has started 89 (played in 96) games and his record is 33-55-1 for a winning percentage of .376. Geno has started 29 (played in 30) and his record is 11-18 for a winning percentage of .379. Consider the following game average for each. Fitzpatrick 18.25 completions 30.32 attempts 60.2% 200.76 yards 1.4 TD's (passing and running) 1.05 Int .55 fumbles Smith 15.53 completions 27 attempts 57.5% 185.7 yards 1.07 TD's (passing and running) 1.13 Int .43 fumbles I thought that perhaps Fitz's ball security was much better now than when he was younger, but he played in 11 games in 2013 and had 12 Interceptions and 9 fumbles. There seems to be quite bit of evidence that season 10 for a 32 year old Amish Rifle, might not be as good as year 3 of a 24 year old Geno Smith provided Geno improves even slightly. Not that I knew the exact stats but that's why I had "ugh" after Fitz's name in my FA list. Not much to choose from, bu I do think Hoyer would have been a better option. I think the intention of signing anyone - hoyer or fitz - is to have that holdover veteran who will manage games down the stretch when/if Geno faceplants again in sept/oct. Fitz having success with Gailey makes him a better choice IMO. Neither will be the starter week 1, and will be coming in to appease the fanbase and settle the franchise down in what would be a turbulent time. I would have picked Fitz over Hoyer to achieve that goal. |
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Mar 15, 2015 13:07:22 GMT -5
Well thought out response and you make a lot of great points....but I don't think I can stomach another Geno year isn't that the whole reason to get another qb? genot has simply sucked for the past two seasons. he got a pass as a rookie but he didn't show any improvement last season. he needs to be pushed up or pushed out. either way the jets win. fitz has had some good games and some bad games. i don't think he's been on a team with personnel equal to the jets so here's to hoping. Not sure I agree. Last year he did have Arian Foster 1246 yds; 4.8 yds/rush; 38 receptions for 327 yds and a total of 13 TDs along with Deandre Hopkins 76 receptions for 1210 yds and Andre Johnson 85/936. |
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Mar 15, 2015 13:09:15 GMT -5
Not that I knew the exact stats but that's why I had "ugh" after Fitz's name in my FA list. Not much to choose from, bu I do think Hoyer would have been a better option. I think the intention of signing anyone - hoyer or fitz - is to have that holdover veteran who will manage games down the stretch when/if Geno faceplants again in sept/oct. Fitz having success with Gailey makes him a better choice IMO. Neither will be the starter week 1, and will be coming in to appease the fanbase and settle the franchise down in what would be a turbulent time. I would have picked Fitz over Hoyer to achieve that goal. Agreed. Fitz was the best of several bad options available to the Jets. |
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Post by rangerous on Mar 15, 2015 13:55:55 GMT -5
isn't that the whole reason to get another qb? genot has simply sucked for the past two seasons. he got a pass as a rookie but he didn't show any improvement last season. he needs to be pushed up or pushed out. either way the jets win. fitz has had some good games and some bad games. i don't think he's been on a team with personnel equal to the jets so here's to hoping. Not sure I agree. Last year he did have Arian Foster 1246 yds; 4.8 yds/rush; 38 receptions for 327 yds and a total of 13 TDs along with Deandre Hopkins 76 receptions for 1210 yds and Andre Johnson 85/936. here's the thing. the texans certainly had their share of very good players but i don't sense they had the whole team concept down like the jets do. yeah i know some team, they went 4-12. but at the same time they seemed to play hard in every game and in spite of genot had chances to win more than 4. and right now the jets have a pretty nice shut defense. all credit to watts and this year's clowney i do see the texans as being a perennial division powerhouse. they do have a good coach in obrien. |
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