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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Mar 17, 2015 0:22:31 GMT -5
QB needy teams? One, TB is taking the best QB. Tenn just may like the kid who played well for them before getting hurt last year. Nevermind that until the draft actually happens and players are drafted or not, you have no clue who will or won't pass on him. Fuck, for all you know at this point, he could go first So so no real logic or fact at work here, just a way of knocking Mariota. the teams picking ahead of the jets are all laying on thick smoke screens. the titans gave mariota a private work out. imo mariota's only real flaw is arm strength but if he's smart like pennington was and not as fragile he could certainly play qb. here's the thing, if not this year then when do the jets go after a qb in the draft? they can go into this season with genot and fitz. but if both those guys fail to make the grade then what? and if fitz starts then genot is gone in two seasons and fitz can't be counted on to be qb for much more than 4 seasons. so as the seasons pass by so does the urgency for the jets to get a qb through the draft. imo if mariota is there at 6 the jets have to pick him. I have absolutely no concerns with his arm strength. The issue with him is can he adapt his game to a conventional NFL offense. Not saying he can't, just we don't know if he can or how long it will take him to get there. As as far as smoke screens, Wisenhunt isn't a fan or running, Mobil QBs, he has no use for Mariota. Plus, supposedly they like what they have. And/or want to get defensive help and make Meck work. After tenn there isn't a team in need of a QB, unless Wash can dump RGIII. Jets, after all this, should still be able to grab a QB prospect in next years draft. There will be at least 3 interesting picks and not a whole lot of teams looking for QBs as of today. That said if Mariota is gone Id pick a project second level guy and see what you have. Draft one every year until you find one. Worked for Ron Wolf
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Post by DowNY on Mar 17, 2015 2:38:08 GMT -5
You guys better get familiar with Bryce Petty & Brent Hundley. Lol
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Post by leftturn3 on Mar 17, 2015 6:06:38 GMT -5
I think the only way he'll make the team is as 3rd string IF the Jets don't draft Mariota. If Mariota was all that and a bag of chips, he wouldn't be passed on by 3 QB needy teams on his way to #6.... either he's worth his weight and will be gone, or there's legitimate cause for concern, and he can keep the fuck on sliding passed us IMO. This is so untrue it is not funny. If the teams in front have absolutely no use for a QB why would they take? It is simple, tenn, jack, wash etc, they all have young QB's getting it done with glaring holes in other areas that if filled with the top of the class in those positions makes the difference for their teams for years to come. Example, what good will it do for Tenn to take Mariota? No good. Just because a player is a stud does not mean you take him, you have to need him.
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Post by Paradis on Mar 17, 2015 10:37:10 GMT -5
If Mariota was all that and a bag of chips, he wouldn't be passed on by 3 QB needy teams on his way to #6.... either he's worth his weight and will be gone, or there's legitimate cause for concern, and he can keep the fuck on sliding passed us IMO. This is so untrue it is not funny. If the teams in front have absolutely no use for a QB why would they take? It is simple, tenn, jack, wash etc, they all have young QB's getting it done with glaring holes in other areas that if filled with the top of the class in those positions makes the difference for their teams for years to come. Example, what good will it do for Tenn to take Mariota? No good. Just because a player is a stud does not mean you take him, you have to need him. You Mettenburger believers are hilarious. Ya, him and RG3... lighting up boards with their knee braces. I'd take Geno over both of 'em. "So untrue, it's funny"...
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Post by leftturn3 on Mar 17, 2015 11:56:48 GMT -5
This is so untrue it is not funny. If the teams in front have absolutely no use for a QB why would they take? It is simple, tenn, jack, wash etc, they all have young QB's getting it done with glaring holes in other areas that if filled with the top of the class in those positions makes the difference for their teams for years to come. Example, what good will it do for Tenn to take Mariota? No good. Just because a player is a stud does not mean you take him, you have to need him. You Mettenburger believers are hilarious. Ya, him and RG3... lighting up boards with their knee braces. I'd take Geno over both of 'em. "So untrue, it's funny"... I'm not saying I believe in any of the top 6 teams QB's, but it is not up to me or you or anyone other than what the teams brass thinks2 down to us don't feel they need to fill the QB position.
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Post by Paradis on Mar 17, 2015 12:08:46 GMT -5
You Mettenburger believers are hilarious. Ya, him and RG3... lighting up boards with their knee braces. I'd take Geno over both of 'em. "So untrue, it's funny"... I'm not saying I believe in any of the top 6 teams QB's, but it is not up to me or you or anyone other than what the teams brass thinks2 down to us don't feel they need to fill the QB position. The only point I was trying to make, was that it shouldn't be a slam dunk that we take mariota. That would be a decisions made in haste because our present situation - and not based on how good we think he'll be. There's obviously some questions about this guy and we ought to consider all options.
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Post by leftturn3 on Mar 17, 2015 12:23:13 GMT -5
I'm not saying I believe in any of the top 6 teams QB's, but it is not up to me or you or anyone other than what the teams brass thinks2 down to us don't feel they need to fill the QB position. The only point I was trying to make, was that it shouldn't be a slam dunk that we take mariota. That would be a decisions made in haste because our present situation - and not based on how good we think he'll be. There's obviously some questions about this guy and we ought to consider all options. I don't think they are just jumping, I agree that the team needs to make sure it is the right move, but who really know for sure. Listen, this team has taken what was supposed to be the better QB in the past and it did not pan out. I think in this case we have to just continue to try QB's until we find one and I think Mariota, regardless of what other teams think, is a very viable option to give a shot.
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Post by Hotman on Mar 17, 2015 12:26:23 GMT -5
This is so untrue it is not funny. If the teams in front have absolutely no use for a QB why would they take? It is simple, tenn, jack, wash etc, they all have young QB's getting it done with glaring holes in other areas that if filled with the top of the class in those positions makes the difference for their teams for years to come. Example, what good will it do for Tenn to take Mariota? No good. Just because a player is a stud does not mean you take him, you have to need him. You Mettenburger believers are hilarious. Ya, him and RG3... lighting up boards with their knee braces. I'd take Geno over both of 'em. "So untrue, it's funny"... There's a knee brace waiting for Mariota, too.
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Mar 17, 2015 14:48:24 GMT -5
This is so untrue it is not funny. If the teams in front have absolutely no use for a QB why would they take? It is simple, tenn, jack, wash etc, they all have young QB's getting it done with glaring holes in other areas that if filled with the top of the class in those positions makes the difference for their teams for years to come. Example, what good will it do for Tenn to take Mariota? No good. Just because a player is a stud does not mean you take him, you have to need him. You Mettenburger believers are hilarious. Ya, him and RG3... lighting up boards with their knee braces. I'd take Geno over both of 'em. "So untrue, it's funny"... Can you read? Said Wisenhunt likes Mettenburger. He likes him. Of course you know he's wrong, you know that's hilarious. And who said they liked RGIII? Point out where I said I liked him. Guess you're not going to answer the question, you would have passed on Rodgers, Montana, etc because others passed, right? That's your draft approach? "So untrue, it's funny"...
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Post by greenreaper on Mar 18, 2015 13:31:49 GMT -5
Looking at the Oregon offense is like looking at a video game. Trying to execute the no huddle spread option ASAP. You recruit high school players with certain niche talents to fill positions and just plug and play 'em.
Take QB...
Darren Thomas was the Oregon QB that played in 2010 and '11 before Mariota. In '10 he threw 30 TDs vs 9 INTs. In '11 he threw 33 TDs vs 7 INTs. Impressive stats. Yet he never got drafted by an NFL team.
Next up to plug in as the Ducks's video game QB...Marcus Mariota. How good is he? Better then Darren Thomas I suppose. But a #1 pick of the draft? Or a top 10? IMO no...and I don't no...both! Cause the QB in this up tempo system is not asked to make NFL type throws. Not asked to huddle. Never take snaps directly under the center. With 3...5...7 step drops timed to his receivers routes. Not asked to make pre snap reads of the defense. Then take a split second post snap read, and go through progressions. Get this all done efficiently after the ball is snapped...within a 2.5 second average...that results in a good play. And do it again and again. If this was easy for a college QB to master...then there wouldn't be a graveyard of failed QBs. Drifting around the NFL as backups.
Jets have been failing a lot lately with their top 10 picks. I count five picks since the Bradway Era began, four of those picks were in the top 6. And it really hurts a team's development when you don't draft a top 10 player that's a dominant player at his position. One worthy of a 2nd contract, and a big part of your team success for like 8+ years. Dewayne Robertson...fail. Vernon Gholston...fail. Sanchez...fail. Dee Milliner...incomplete at best due to injuries. Only D'Brick meets my criteria for a successful top 10 pick.
The Jets need success with this 2015 6th pick of the draft. You don't draft Mariota here because you need a franchise QB. You draft him here at #6 because the Jets decision makers are confident he will turn into NYJ QB for the next 8-10 years. And bring the Jets a Lombardi Trophy before he's done.
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Post by Hotman on Mar 18, 2015 14:03:08 GMT -5
Looking at the Oregon offense is like looking at a video game. Trying to execute the no huddle spread option ASAP. You recruit high school players with certain niche talents to fill positions and just plug and play 'em. Take QB... Darren Thomas was the Oregon QB that played in 2010 and '11 before Mariota. In '10 he threw 30 TDs vs 9 INTs. In '11 he threw 33 TDs vs 7 INTs. Impressive stats. Yet he never got drafted by an NFL team. Next up to plug in as the Ducks's video game QB...Marcus Mariota. How good is he? Better then Darren Thomas I suppose. But a #1 pick of the draft? Or a top 10? IMO no...and I don't no...both! Cause the QB in this up tempo system is not asked to make NFL type throws. Not asked to huddle. Never take snaps directly under the center. With 3...5...7 step drops timed to his receivers routes. Not asked to make pre snap reads of the defense. Then take a split second post snap read, and go through progressions. Get this all done efficiently after the ball is snapped...within a 2.5 second average...that results in a good play. And do it again and again. If this was easy for a college QB to master...then there wouldn't be a graveyard of failed QBs. Drifting around the NFL as backups. Jets have been failing a lot lately with their top 10 picks. I count five picks since the Bradway Era began, four of those picks were in the top 6. And it really hurts a team's development when you don't draft a top 10 player that's a dominant player at his position. One worthy of a 2nd contract, and a big part of your team success for like 8+ years. Dewayne Robertson...fail. Vernon Gholston...fail. Sanchez...fail. Dee Milliner...incomplete at best due to injuries. Only D'Brick meets my criteria for a successful top 10 pick. The Jets need success with this 2015 6th pick of the draft. You don't draft Mariota here because you need a franchise QB. You draft him here at #6 because the Jets decision makers are confident he will turn into NYJ QB for the next 8-10 years. And bring the Jets a Lombardi Trophy before he's done. One name here stands out to me... BRADWAY ERA IT's FINALLY over!!!
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Mar 18, 2015 17:44:36 GMT -5
Looking at the Oregon offense is like looking at a video game. Trying to execute the no huddle spread option ASAP. You recruit high school players with certain niche talents to fill positions and just plug and play 'em. Take QB... Darren Thomas was the Oregon QB that played in 2010 and '11 before Mariota. In '10 he threw 30 TDs vs 9 INTs. In '11 he threw 33 TDs vs 7 INTs. Impressive stats. Yet he never got drafted by an NFL team. Next up to plug in as the Ducks's video game QB...Marcus Mariota. How good is he? Better then Darren Thomas I suppose. But a #1 pick of the draft? Or a top 10? IMO no...and I don't no...both! Cause the QB in this up tempo system is not asked to make NFL type throws. Not asked to huddle. Never take snaps directly under the center. With 3...5...7 step drops timed to his receivers routes. Not asked to make pre snap reads of the defense. Then take a split second post snap read, and go through progressions. Get this all done efficiently after the ball is snapped...within a 2.5 second average...that results in a good play. And do it again and again. If this was easy for a college QB to master...then there wouldn't be a graveyard of failed QBs. Drifting around the NFL as backups. Jets have been failing a lot lately with their top 10 picks. I count five picks since the Bradway Era began, four of those picks were in the top 6. And it really hurts a team's development when you don't draft a top 10 player that's a dominant player at his position. One worthy of a 2nd contract, and a big part of your team success for like 8+ years. Dewayne Robertson...fail. Vernon Gholston...fail. Sanchez...fail. Dee Milliner...incomplete at best due to injuries. Only D'Brick meets my criteria for a successful top 10 pick. The Jets need success with this 2015 6th pick of the draft. You don't draft Mariota here because you need a franchise QB. You draft him here at #6 because the Jets decision makers are confident he will turn into NYJ QB for the next 8-10 years. And bring the Jets a Lombardi Trophy before he's done. One name here stands out to me... BRADWAY ERA IT's FINALLY over!!! yeah, I wish this new regime could have shown what they could have done with 12 picks last year.
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Post by Hotman on Mar 18, 2015 21:35:40 GMT -5
One name here stands out to me... BRADWAY ERA IT's FINALLY over!!! yeah, I wish this new regime could have shown what they could have done with 12 picks last year. I know. I makes me so irritated I'd rather shit glass.
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Post by kuntysoze on Mar 23, 2015 9:49:24 GMT -5
yeah, I wish this new regime could have shown what they could have done with 12 picks last year. I know. I makes me so irritated I'd rather shit glass. FIRE(D) JOHN IDZIK!!!!!!
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Post by Hotman on Mar 23, 2015 23:18:25 GMT -5
I know. I makes me so irritated I'd rather shit glass. FIRE(D) JOHN IDZIK!!!!!!YES WE CAN!!
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