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Post by GreenBloodBlitz on Mar 30, 2015 20:48:59 GMT -5
If we stay put...obvious go pass rusher..then offense down the line. Meaning..olb or re...then wr,rb,QB all who can contribute. If pussy mariota slides I say trade down all day...and include some oline. Hate me now..but I'd take Bryce petty sooner rather than later..what say you!?
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Post by GreenBloodBlitz on Mar 30, 2015 20:55:15 GMT -5
Btw..wanna make it clear...mariota is a bust. Worse than Sanchez. Look at the time between Vick and r.wilson. I want a QB. Not a circus act. I dont want rgiii...or kapernick...or the like. I want a smart tough QB with a big arm...prepared to play in tough ass n.y. Some laid back dude from the west coast ain't it!
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Post by Hotman on Mar 30, 2015 21:08:37 GMT -5
Btw..wanna make it clear...mariota is a bust. Worse than Sanchez. Look at the time between Vick and r.wilson. I want a QB. Not a circus act. I dont want rgiii...or kapernick...or the like. I want a smart tough QB with a big arm...prepared to play in tough ass n.y. Some laid back dude from the west coast ain't it! I don't want him either. Gonna be a bust just like Johnny 8-ball. I say it all the time and every time, I am right. |
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Post by DowNY on Mar 31, 2015 4:10:15 GMT -5
Amari Cooper >
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Post by rangerous on Mar 31, 2015 5:23:09 GMT -5
If we stay put...obvious go pass rusher..then offense down the line. Meaning..olb or re...then wr,rb,QB all who can contribute. If pussy mariota slides I say trade down all day...and include some oline. Hate me now..but I'd take Bryce petty sooner rather than later..what say you!? i see your reasons. i think if mariota is not the guy then they need to go oline and then lb or pass rusher. assuming that revis and cromartie can lock down the receivers, a great pass rusher really isn't necessary because the dline will have more time to get to qb's like brady. but takng mariota should light a real fire under genot. imo genot has been making way too many mistakes and requires way too much of the team around him to succeed. and if the jets don't take mariota then they still need to take a qb in later rounds just to have one to look at or keep for 3rd string. |
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Post by Jets Things on Mar 31, 2015 7:55:08 GMT -5
No QB this year, be ready to trade multiple #1's to grab Christian Hackenberg next year.
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Post by cgjet on Mar 31, 2015 8:40:33 GMT -5
I'm thinking the Jets take an offensive lineman at 6, or trade down. This is based on the abundance of WRs in this years draft. In my opinion I think the defense is complete, and the draft should be committed to building the offense. My reasoning is based on the moves made which strengthened the secondary, which I believe will immediately improve the effectiveness of the Jets DEs without spending a draft pick on a DE. However, based on the strategy of taking the best available player, all of this reasoning could go out the window quickly.
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Post by Harrier on Mar 31, 2015 9:49:10 GMT -5
I'm thinking the Jets take an offensive lineman at 6, or trade down. This is based on the abundance of WRs in this years draft. In my opinion I think the defense is complete, and the draft should be committed to building the offense. My reasoning is based on the moves made which strengthened the secondary, which I believe will immediately improve the effectiveness of the Jets DEs without spending a draft pick on a DE. However, based on the strategy of taking the best available player, all of this reasoning could go out the window quickly. I agree, I don't think there's a real need to take a pass rusher this high. With Revis, Cro, Skrine and Milliner we are goin to get a ton of coverage sacks, we got plenty of sacks last year and that was when coverage was not holdin up for more than a millisecond. I'm starting to favour a trade back as I'm just not sold on Mariota as a day 1 starter or his ability as a pocket passer. I'm thinking we go Cooper if we don't trade back or Jalen Strong if we do, add a Duke Johnson in the 2nd and a late round punt on Bryce Petty. |
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Post by Yankees45 on Mar 31, 2015 10:04:09 GMT -5
Mariota is smart , he knows how to read coverages , has a strong arm , accurate and throws a nice ball. He also doesn't commit bonehead plays , look at his int ratio. He also can beat you with his legs which can be a plus when all goes to shit. I say he can be a great pick if we take him and our OC does a good job with him.
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Post by rangerous on Apr 2, 2015 5:17:06 GMT -5
Mariota is smart , he knows how to read coverages , has a strong arm , accurate and throws a nice ball. He also doesn't commit bonehead plays , look at his int ratio. He also can beat you with his legs which can be a plus when all goes to shit. I say he can be a great pick if we take him and our OC does a good job with him. i don't buy all the stuff about him being a spread qb and not lining up under center. he can learn that. if he already knows how the defense flows and can read things quickly he'll be more than fine. and you can't discount his improvement over the past few seasons. i think we all get that there is a vast difference between the college and pro game . will he be the next alex smith? he hasn't been too bad once he left the niners. right now the jets are gearing up for a successful season. 8-8 is not going to cut it. they spent too much and acquired too many good to set 8-8 as a goal. and the key to the season is the qb. the downside is that mariota really needs to sit for a season so if the jets draft him they still need an adequate qb. fitz? genot? the defense had better allow around 15 ppg. |
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Apr 2, 2015 7:38:56 GMT -5
The reason a lot of spread QBs don't make it in the NFL is their college offense covers up for a lack of talent. It's not that a talented spread QB can't convert to a pro offense. The people who say Mariota will be a bust are saying this because he hasn't run a pro offense as if he can't learn it. But why can't he? He's smart, accurate, big enough, has the arm etc. There was a time where every college QB had to learn the NFL pro game. And there are plenty of QBs who come out of a pro offense, who play it well in college and have a shitty NFL career.
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Post by kuntysoze on Apr 2, 2015 9:25:20 GMT -5
Mariota is more athletic, accurate and intelligent than any QB we've had since Favre. As crazy as it sounds, it's absolutely true. I don't trust Geno with another NFL snap.
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Post by kuntysoze on Apr 2, 2015 9:27:42 GMT -5
No QB this year, be ready to trade multiple #1's to grab Christian Hackenberg next year. Is Hackenberg even that good? I don't watch much Penn State football. What are scouts saying? Who are his NFL comparables? |
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Post by jetstream23 on Apr 2, 2015 11:33:45 GMT -5
I see Mariota as a risk as well. But, with the Jets seemingly in search of a QB forever, I'm not sure we could pass on him if he's there at #6. I certainly wouldn't trade up for him, but if he falls into our lap at #6 I can't see the Jets passing. What if he does go on to become a very good QB, a Top 15 type guy in the League and we passed on him when we had a legitimate need at QB? That would be hard to stomach. Let the Dan Marino regrets follow that type of decision.
My secret wish is that someone takes him ahead of us and the Jets simply never get the opportunity. This may be a quasi-SOJF line of thinking but I would just rather have the decision taken out of our hands because I do see a Murphy's Law scenario here....We take him and he's a bust. We pass on him and he goes on to QB the Rams to 2 Super Bowls in the next decade.
The other fact is that IF both Winston and Mariota go very early, say the first 2 picks, that guarantees the Jets one of the Top 4 players outside of QB in the draft. We are suddenly guaranteed to get either Dante Fowler, Amari Cooper, Kevin White, or even Leonard Williams. I'd be happy with ANY of those guys and would add Vic Beasley to that list. In fact, if SOMEHOW Leonard Williams dropped to us (he won't) we could probably hold that pick hostage for a ridiculous ransom of draft picks from some team not too far behind us.
In just about any scenario the #6 spot in this draft looks really, really good. It's a bit of luck but our need areas of OLB, WR, QB line up really well with the Top of this draft.
EDIT: Imagine if we were set at OLB, WR, etc. and in dire need of a new CB (again!) or a starting LT? We might be forced to take someone like Trae Waynes, Brandon Scherff, or Andrus Peat way earlier than they should be taken. I'm just happy that the Jets are in a position to take a player who is BOTH an elite, Top 10 talent as well as who plays a position that we could really use an upgrade.
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