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Post by CTJetsFanII on May 2, 2015 17:34:37 GMT -5
We know the story of why Collins went undrafted. *IF* the Jets determine he had nothing to do with the murder, could the Jets offer him an UDFA contract with $ similar to a 2nd or 3rd round pick to see how serious he is about sitting out a year?
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Post by Touchable on May 2, 2015 17:43:56 GMT -5
I fucking hope so
Day 1 starter and potential future all-pro
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Post by silverback on May 2, 2015 17:46:15 GMT -5
I fucking hope so Day 1 starter and potential future all-pro I'd offer him the same contract as a first rounder and set the bar high for every other team out there. This kid could make the Jets O O-line great for a decade if he's innocent.
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Post by Lithfan on May 2, 2015 17:46:48 GMT -5
We know the story of why Collins went undrafted. *IF* the Jets determine he had nothing to do with the murder, could the Jets offer him an UDFA contract with $ similar to a 2nd or 3rd round pick to see how serious he is about sitting out a year? Even if he sits out a year he can't re-enter the draft. He is a UDFA right now.
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Post by CTJetsFanII on May 2, 2015 17:58:21 GMT -5
Anyone know if there are limits to what a team can offer an UDFA? Is there a "scale" like there is with draft picks?
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Post by DowNY on May 2, 2015 18:14:46 GMT -5
Should've used that 7th on him. Doubt that NT makes our team tbh.
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Post by Lithfan on May 2, 2015 18:22:49 GMT -5
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Post by nycdan on May 2, 2015 18:23:35 GMT -5
Anyone know if there are limits to what a team can offer an UDFA? Is there a "scale" like there is with draft picks? I don't think there are specific caps at the player level but there is a 'rookie compensation pool' that limits how much a team can spend overall on rookies. So I think, without knowing for sure, that most teams will be very limited on what they can pony up for any UDFA because it might put them over their rookie pool cap. Hopefully someone can shed more light because it's an interesting question and if I'm correct, it means Collins is as screwed next year as he would be if he signed this year and might as well get the clock started.
EDIT: Overthecap.com had a better answer as usual.
Full article: overthecap.com/quick-thoughts-on-lael-collins-re-entering-the-draft/
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Post by rangerous on May 2, 2015 18:28:09 GMT -5
Should've used that 7th on him. Doubt that NT makes our team tbh. yeah. i'm not quite sure where drafting a dt in the seventh fits in. at the very least they lock the guy up for a year if he doesn't sign and if he is innocent, then he could easily be traded if necessary.
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Post by nycdan on May 2, 2015 18:29:35 GMT -5
Should've used that 7th on him. Doubt that NT makes our team tbh. yeah. i'm not quite sure where drafting a dt in the seventh fits in. at the very least they lock the guy up for a year if he doesn't sign and if he is innocent, then he could easily be traded if necessary.
Problem is if he doesn't sign, we would be the only team that would NOT be allowed to draft him next year. That's the league rule. That's why teams all passed.
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Post by Lithfan on May 2, 2015 18:29:53 GMT -5
Should've used that 7th on him. Doubt that NT makes our team tbh. yeah. i'm not quite sure where drafting a dt in the seventh fits in. at the very least they lock the guy up for a year if he doesn't sign and if he is innocent, then he could easily be traded if necessary. If he doesn't sign, he goes back in the draft and we get nothing for him.
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Post by Touchable on May 2, 2015 18:31:17 GMT -5
yeah. i'm not quite sure where drafting a dt in the seventh fits in. at the very least they lock the guy up for a year if he doesn't sign and if he is innocent, then he could easily be traded if necessary. If he doesn't sign, he goes back in the draft and we get nothing for him. Exactly As soon as that came out, there was no way in hell anyone was spending a pick on him.
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Post by CTJetsFanII on May 2, 2015 18:32:52 GMT -5
Anyone know if there are limits to what a team can offer an UDFA? Is there a "scale" like there is with draft picks? I don't think there are specific caps at the player level but there is a 'rookie compensation pool' that limits how much a team can spend overall on rookies. So I think, without knowing for sure, that most teams will be very limited on what they can pony up for any UDFA because it might put them over their rookie pool cap. Hopefully someone can shed more light because it's an interesting question and if I'm correct, it means Collins is as screwed next year as he would be if he signed this year and might as well get the clock started.
EDIT: Overthecap.com had a better answer as usual.
Full article: overthecap.com/quick-thoughts-on-lael-collins-re-entering-the-draft/
Thanks. So this indicates a cap on signing bonuses and *minimum* yearly salaries, not *maximum*. Doesn't seem to say anything about how high an annual contract that can be offered and for how long. Example - can we offer a $10k signing bonus but a 3 year, $12 million dollar contract guaranteed?
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Post by nycdan on May 2, 2015 18:39:00 GMT -5
I don't think there are specific caps at the player level but there is a 'rookie compensation pool' that limits how much a team can spend overall on rookies. So I think, without knowing for sure, that most teams will be very limited on what they can pony up for any UDFA because it might put them over their rookie pool cap. Hopefully someone can shed more light because it's an interesting question and if I'm correct, it means Collins is as screwed next year as he would be if he signed this year and might as well get the clock started.
EDIT: Overthecap.com had a better answer as usual.
Full article: overthecap.com/quick-thoughts-on-lael-collins-re-entering-the-draft/
Thanks. So this indicates a cap on signing bonuses and *minimum* yearly salaries, not *maximum*. Doesn't seem to say anything about how high an annual contract that can be offered and for how long. Example - can we offer a $10k signing bonus but a 3 year, $12 million dollar contract guaranteed?
I think when it says 'minimum yearly salaries' that means league minimum. There's no lottery ticket for UDFAs in their first year or three. Basically, Collins appears to be mostly screwed if this was all just bad timing by the NO police.
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Post by JB1089 on May 2, 2015 18:39:50 GMT -5
I don't think there are specific caps at the player level but there is a 'rookie compensation pool' that limits how much a team can spend overall on rookies. So I think, without knowing for sure, that most teams will be very limited on what they can pony up for any UDFA because it might put them over their rookie pool cap. Hopefully someone can shed more light because it's an interesting question and if I'm correct, it means Collins is as screwed next year as he would be if he signed this year and might as well get the clock started.
EDIT: Overthecap.com had a better answer as usual.
Full article: overthecap.com/quick-thoughts-on-lael-collins-re-entering-the-draft/
Thanks. So this indicates a cap on signing bonuses and *minimum* yearly salaries, not *maximum*. Doesn't seem to say anything about how high an annual contract that can be offered and for how long. Example - can we offer a $10k signing bonus but a 3 year, $12 million dollar contract guaranteed? All UDFAs make the league minimum. The only difference between the offers that teams can make them is the amount of the signing bonus, and teams only have a $90,000 to use on signing bonuses for UDFAs.
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