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Post by Cruecible on May 8, 2015 21:29:19 GMT -5
The Cheater is going to take the fall as the "lone guilty party". Allows the NFL to look like they are taking a firm line, but without hammering the Flats*' organisation, Belicheat or the Commish's pal Cheese man. The Cheater is high profile, but he is also one player on the downside of his career. He takes the bullets to allow the Commish to maintain his long-time romance with Kraft. OK...never posted before. Long time listener, first time caller. This is what I believe. Do I believe Cindy lied? Yup. But I'm not so sure he did so under his own power. As much as I hate him as an opposing QB, I respect the hell out of him as a competitor. This really does go against his grain. I just don't see him lying, voluntarily, about this whole, stupid debacle. I really believe he was thrown under the bus for the "greater good". I argued with Sedano on his show, last night, about this exact thing. It seems WAY more plausible, to me, that Brady was coerced into lying, just so the *Flats franchise can save face, especially since they have Spygate knocking at their back door. What would be the penalty if ONLY Cindy and the "deflators" knew about this? A suspension for Brady and the two asshats never having a job in the NFL again. If Belidicken and Mac N' Cheese knew about it, as well?!?! MUCH stiffer penalty, IMO, in light of their connection to Spygate. The whole franchise would be seriously tainted. Better for the twilight QB to take the fall than the franchise. I'm betting 1-3 games, max. The punishment fits the crime. And, no offense, but some of you "Jets fans" really need to get a grip on reality. Pats fans are the Yankee fans of the NFL. And some of you Jets fans are one step behind. Get off the cross, use the wood, build a bridge and get the fuck over it, already. Sincerely, Jets Fan Since '82 |
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on May 8, 2015 21:44:22 GMT -5
This is what I believe. Do I believe Cindy lied? Yup. But I'm not so sure he did so under his own power. As much as I hate him as an opposing QB, I respect the hell out of him as a competitor. This really does go against his grain. I just don't see him lying, voluntarily, about this whole, stupid debacle. I really believe he was thrown under the bus for the "greater good". Idk how you could think that. Bill would never tell the equipment managers to deflate a ball if Brady didn't like it that way. Brady is his superstar player who touches the ball EVERY play. |
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Post by Hotman on May 8, 2015 21:47:20 GMT -5
that's funnier than the Bmarsh selfie prank. you wrote that on there? LOL  Hmm... Y'all are messing with me. There's no way you haven't heard that before. :ninja: |
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Post by Cruecible on May 8, 2015 21:57:04 GMT -5
This is what I believe. Do I believe Cindy lied? Yup. But I'm not so sure he did so under his own power. As much as I hate him as an opposing QB, I respect the hell out of him as a competitor. This really does go against his grain. I just don't see him lying, voluntarily, about this whole, stupid debacle. I really believe he was thrown under the bus for the "greater good". Idk how you could think that. Bill would never tell the equipment managers to deflate a ball if The Cheater didn't like it that way. The Cheater is his superstar player who touches the ball EVERY play. Did I say that?!?! No. But do YOU think Mumbles DIDN'T know about this, in any capacity?!? This guy RULES this team with an IRON FIST. My point was, Brady liked his balls the way he liked them. Belidicken was fine with it, because he's just the type of smug asshole that bends the rules and thinks he's above the law. IMO, Belicheat made sure, once this came out, that it fell on Brady. I can honestly see, both him and Mac, telling Brady "it will tarnish our legacy, as a TEAM, if it comes out that we all knew, and approved, of this type of behavior. The penalty will be MUCH stiffer if it comes out we all knew about it". Clearer? |
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Post by jets.penguin on May 8, 2015 22:03:33 GMT -5
The Cheater is going to take the fall as the "lone guilty party". Allows the NFL to look like they are taking a firm line, but without hammering the Flats*' organisation, Belicheat or the Commish's pal Cheese man. The Cheater is high profile, but he is also one player on the downside of his career. He takes the bullets to allow the Commish to maintain his long-time romance with Kraft. OK... never posted before. Long time listener, first time caller. This is what I believe. Do I believe Cindy lied? Yup. But I'm not so sure he did so under his own power. As much as I hate him as an opposing QB, I respect the hell out of him as a competitor. This really does go against his grain. I just don't see him lying, voluntarily, about this whole, stupid debacle. I really believe he was thrown under the bus for the "greater good". I argued with Sedano on his show, last night, about this exact thing. It seems WAY more plausible, to me, that The Cheater was coerced into lying, just so the *Flats franchise can save face, especially since they have Spygate knocking at their back door. What would be the penalty if ONLY Cindy and the "deflators" knew about this? A suspension for The Cheater and the two asshats never having a job in the NFL again. If Belidicken and Mac N' Cheese knew about it, as well?!?! MUCH stiffer penalty, IMO, in light of their connection to Spygate. The whole franchise would be seriously tainted. Better for the twilight QB to take the fall than the franchise. I'm betting 1-3 games, max. The punishment fits the crime. And, no offense, but some of you "Jets fans" really need to get a grip on reality. Flats* fans are the Yankee fans of the NFL. And some of you Jets fans are one step behind. Get off the cross, use the wood, build a bridge and get the fuck over it, already. Sincerely, Jets Fan Since '82 thank you for never posting before :-) |
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Post by Cruecible on May 8, 2015 22:09:04 GMT -5
OK... never posted before. Long time listener, first time caller. This is what I believe. Do I believe Cindy lied? Yup. But I'm not so sure he did so under his own power. As much as I hate him as an opposing QB, I respect the hell out of him as a competitor. This really does go against his grain. I just don't see him lying, voluntarily, about this whole, stupid debacle. I really believe he was thrown under the bus for the "greater good". I argued with Sedano on his show, last night, about this exact thing. It seems WAY more plausible, to me, that The Cheater was coerced into lying, just so the *Flats franchise can save face, especially since they have Spygate knocking at their back door. What would be the penalty if ONLY Cindy and the "deflators" knew about this? A suspension for The Cheater and the two asshats never having a job in the NFL again. If Belidicken and Mac N' Cheese knew about it, as well?!?! MUCH stiffer penalty, IMO, in light of their connection to Spygate. The whole franchise would be seriously tainted. Better for the twilight QB to take the fall than the franchise. I'm betting 1-3 games, max. The punishment fits the crime. And, no offense, but some of you "Jets fans" really need to get a grip on reality. Flats* fans are the Yankee fans of the NFL. And some of you Jets fans are one step behind. Get off the cross, use the wood, build a bridge and get the fuck over it, already. Sincerely, Jets Fan Since '82 thank you for never posting before :-) Nice retort, Penguin. Did Mommy help? Maybe you can tell me, with an unbiased judgement, how I might be wrong in my thinking, as opposed to a 1st grade, one-liner. Or, in smaller words so you can understand, tell me your side of the story. |
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Post by Peebag on May 8, 2015 22:17:25 GMT -5
thank you for never posting before :-) Nice retort, Penguin. Did Mommy help? Maybe you can tell me, with an unbiased judgement, how I might be wrong in my thinking, as opposed to a 1st grade, one-liner. Or, in smaller words so you can understand, tell me your side of the story. Dude, this is the Hampur...our maturity level is about 11 years old. |
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Post by Cruecible on May 8, 2015 22:19:15 GMT -5
Nice retort, Penguin. Did Mommy help? Maybe you can tell me, with an unbiased judgement, how I might be wrong in my thinking, as opposed to a 1st grade, one-liner. Or, in smaller words so you can understand, tell me your side of the story. Dude, this is the Hampur...our maturity level is about 11 years old. I'm aware. I've been here since it came over from the Landing Strip. Wishful thinking, I guess. |
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Post by nycdan on May 8, 2015 22:33:23 GMT -5
I think Tommy gets 4 games reduced to 2 on appeal.
The Mass-deflator and his sidekick will be banned for life because somehow that will appear to the NFL to be making the punishment more harsh. Still, they deserve it and then some.
No idea what they'll do to Kraft, BB and the team. The Saints and Falcons precedents suggest there should be harsh penalties levied there as well but I'll hold judgment on that until I see what Goodell does.
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on May 9, 2015 0:46:03 GMT -5
Did I say that?!?! No. But do YOU think Mumbles DIDN'T know about this, in any capacity?!? This guy RULES this team with an IRON FIST. My point was, The Cheater liked his balls the way he liked them. Belidicken was fine with it, because he's just the type of smug asshole that bends the rules and thinks he's above the law. IMO, Belicheat made sure, once this came out, that it fell on The Cheater. I can honestly see, both him and Mac, telling The Cheater "it will tarnish our legacy, as a TEAM, if it comes out that we all knew, and approved, of this type of behavior. The penalty will be MUCH stiffer if it comes out we all knew about it". Clearer? How the fuck did you get "do YOU think Mumbles DIDN'T know about this, in, any capacity" from "Bill would never deflate the balls without Brady's approval." I agree with you that they both knew. However, how does telling Brady to lie about the balls make sure it falls on just him? Brady is only "taking" the fall because they caught him. Now they all look sketchy. Please capitalize more random words in your next post so it's even "clearer." |
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Post by Hotman on May 9, 2015 2:00:36 GMT -5
thank you for never posting before :-) Nice retort, Penguin. Did Mommy help? Maybe you can tell me, with an unbiased judgement, how I might be wrong in my thinking, as opposed to a 1st grade, one-liner. Or, in smaller words so you can understand, tell me your side of the story. LoL, bro... First off, welcome. Second, you are best off to roll with the ball busting. It was a funny post He made, tbh, but I doubt he really wants you to never post again. LoL. Next time, don't take it so serious and literal and make a witty reply. Or do what I do when they make fun of my "funny southern sayings" and just make a :mad: face. LoL |
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Post by ryu79 on May 9, 2015 6:46:29 GMT -5
Based on the text exchanges and his stalking of the ballboys once the story broke and his unwillingness to share his phone and email with investigators, the guy was lying the whole time and complicit.
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Post by lileprechaun on May 9, 2015 7:37:10 GMT -5
Based on the text exchanges and his stalking of the ballboys once the story broke and his unwillingness to share his phone and email with investigators, the guy was lying the whole time and complicit. Yeah, that about sums it up. And the fact that his own crew of underlings can't stand him or his picky, obsessive-compulsive ways. It's nice by the way to think that Brady only has concerns about how easily he will throw a soft ball. You can also be assured that he is aware that a soft ball reduces fumbles. In other words, it's good for the entire offense of the Pats. Holding up an individual game that the Pats won handily does not address the pattern that impacted many games over time.
P.S. In my fantasy, Brady gets suspended for the year, gets into a snit of royal proportions, decides he's going to show the whole NFL his irreplaceable value and retires.
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Post by Hotman on May 9, 2015 7:42:35 GMT -5
Suspension coming during the week.
Definitely gonna be a suspension. Hell yes.
Leaks coming out that Goodell is considering it a very serious violation, and is actually set to punish him for 2 violations. W00T!!!
Fagtriots organization will be punished as well. Can't wait!!
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Post by Hotman on May 9, 2015 7:42:49 GMT -5
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