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Post by Harrier on May 16, 2015 13:23:57 GMT -5
I thought this thread was going to be a topic of conversation about Bowles and the positive things the players are saying about him.
It always seems to descend into a Rex Ryan argument for or against instead of an insight into what a Bowles led team will look like.
You go to any other Jet forum and I get the sense the majority think Rex is a dickhead, this board seems to be the official Rex Ryan fan boy forum.
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Post by Paradis on May 16, 2015 13:46:05 GMT -5
nothing new here. It's exactly what we've heard/expected. Me thinks it was Davis.
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Post by silverback on May 16, 2015 13:56:00 GMT -5
Excited to have a coach like Bowles running the show. A guy who's played in the league, won a superbowl, very respected experienced coach learning under some really good mentors, previous experience as HC with good results, players respond to him, and he's a local guy.
He's not the hard ass Mangini was or the super lax Ryan. He seems somewhat in the middle. I like that he seems a combination of the both in his own way.
On a side note I like how he assembled his staff. If I'm not mistaken nearly all these coaches are very experienced guys. I really like the Rogers acquisition as he is also a Parcells guy. April and Gailey are two guys who have been coaching a long time with Good success. Bowles picked a teaching staff. All these guys are teachers of the craft. All coaches coach but the good ones teach. Arians is known for this as was Parcells and you can tell Bowles has picked up a lot from them.
Probably just seeing things through green colored sunglasses while drinking green kool-aid but I'm excited about not only Bowles but the entire staff.
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Post by Harrier on May 16, 2015 14:05:53 GMT -5
Exactly That douchebag SAR was right when he said that we better win a championship quickly under Rex, because his goofy personality and bravado would wear thin. I was going to bring that up last night, but didn't want to give SAR any credit. I think he used a star analogy, something along the lines of the brightest stars burn out the fastest. That's exactly what happened. Haha, hard to admit but SAR nailed it on Rex about 3 years ago.
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Post by McGinley on May 17, 2015 0:27:58 GMT -5
I was going to bring that up last night, but didn't want to give SAR any credit. I think he used a star analogy, something along the lines of the brightest stars burn out the fastest. That's exactly what happened. Haha, hard to admit but SAR nailed it on Rex about 3 years ago. That horrible feeling in the pit of your stomach when you realize Scott was......*gulp*........right.
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Post by Hotman on May 17, 2015 7:22:59 GMT -5
Haha, hard to admit but SAR nailed it on Rex about 3 years ago. That horrible feeling in the pit of your stomach when you realize Scott was......*gulp*........right. Don't worry, that asshole was wrong about literally everything else he ever said. Being right about one thing that half the fan base was saying too is a piss in the bucket.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on May 17, 2015 8:32:58 GMT -5
That horrible feeling in the pit of your stomach when you realize Scott was......*gulp*........right. Don't worry, that asshole was wrong about literally everything else he ever said. Being right about one thing that half the fan base was saying too is a piss in the bucket. +1, not that hard to predict that Jets fans would tire of something after a short period of time
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Post by greengeek on May 17, 2015 19:01:59 GMT -5
A friend of mine (passed away a few years ago) was a famous physics teacher. He founded the Physics Teacher magazine and was its editor for 20 years. He followed theories in physics education for 100's of years. As each "-ism" (constructivism, hands-on-learning, ...) was invented, you could watch the pendulum swing between two extremes of teaching:
- Help the student by explaining things.
- Help the student by allowing them to discover the truth.
It seems to me that football coaching also swings back and forth between "hard ass coach" and "players coach". I think that the Cliff Swartz solution works in this case also: (my paraphrase of Cliff) The reason that we swing back and forth endlessly between the same two extremes of education theory is that they are both right; each at their own time. Trouble results from assuming that either theory is always right and practicing that one to the complete exclusion of the other. Sometimes students need your help and other times they are best left to discover on their own. The essential talent of a good teacher is to actively and accurately gauge the student(s) and seamlessly adapt the teaching method to whatever will be most effective at that exact moment. Some people have stated that we want a coach "in the middle". I disagree...not left...not right...not middle. We want a coach that is so in tune with the team, that he gives them (en masse and individually) what they need to progress moment by moment. In other words we're looking for talent, not style.
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Post by Paradis on May 17, 2015 21:43:09 GMT -5
A friend of mine (passed away a few years ago) was a famous physics teacher. He founded the Physics Teacher magazine and was its editor for 20 years. He followed theories in physics education for 100's of years. As each "-ism" (constructivism, hands-on-learning, ...) was invented, you could watch the pendulum swing between two extremes of teaching:
- Help the student by explaining things.
- Help the student by allowing them to discover the truth.
It seems to me that football coaching also swings back and forth between "hard ass coach" and "players coach". I think that the Cliff Swartz solution works in this case also: (my paraphrase of Cliff) The reason that we swing back and forth endlessly between the same two extremes of education theory is that they are both right; each at their own time. Trouble results from assuming that either theory is always right and practicing that one to the complete exclusion of the other. Sometimes students need your help and other times they are best left to discover on their own. The essential talent of a good teacher is to actively and accurately gauge the student(s) and seamlessly adapt the teaching method to whatever will be most effective at that exact moment. Some people have stated that we want a coach "in the middle". I disagree...not left...not right...not middle. We want a coach that is so in tune with the team, that he gives them (en masse and individually) what they need to progress moment by moment. In other words we're looking for talent, not style. This ideology can be diffused over a variety of scenarios from politics, to education, etc etc. I think in the case of the Jets, the pendulum obviously swung the other way. The team needed a even-keeled, disciplinarian of sorts to regain composure and stability. Reintroduce accountability and responsibility. They got that in Bowles i believe - whilst still keeping the defensive powerhouse theme - in order to have some continuity there. You don't want to risk alienating the veterans by over-correcting.
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