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Post by jcappy on May 18, 2015 17:21:18 GMT -5
Anyone watch? End of an era, AMCs last real hold over from their golden age unless you count the Walking Dead...which I don't.
Went out and bought twenty gallons of Coca Cola after the show though, not sure why.
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Post by DDNYjets on May 18, 2015 17:28:18 GMT -5
Never watched an episode. I plan to binge watch it at some point.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 18:03:46 GMT -5
Vividly remember my mother howling at me that they ruined that song. The Woodstock carcass was yielding dividends. 1971; '72? Single parent household began to get old quickly.
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Post by rexneffect on May 18, 2015 18:31:32 GMT -5
I liked the finale. I thought they did a good job of tying up storylines and characters and providing a thoughtful resolution to the sexism that categorized much of the series. IMO that might be the more interesting arc of the show than Don's transformation.
In my opinion the ending is clear. Don spent the entire series trapped by his lack of sense of identity and for as great as he was with his job (when he did it) he was increasingly lost as a person and it was wearing down his work. In the end he is able to admit who he is and build an honest identity that allows him to reach his full potential with the iconic Coke ad. The whole series has been Don's chase for Coke even if they have only brought it up intermittently through the series. Peggy's comment on the call that McCann would take him back was an indication that he could be forgiven and start over. If Don doesn't go back to advertising then the show could just end with Don happy on the beach having rejected all the cosmopolitan lifestyle and everything he struggled with through the show. You don't need to end on anything else. But they didn't.
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Post by Bonhomme Richard on May 18, 2015 21:08:35 GMT -5
I thought it was great. Nice way to wrap up story lines for the secondary characters, although the the Peggy-Stan romance was a little contrived. Roger, as always, had the line of the night -- "Rich bastard" -- referring to his illegitimate son after telling Joan he would bequeath his fortune to him.
The ending for Don was fascinating. The finale to his arc summed up the whole show: confusing, frustrating, amusing, depressing, and subtly brilliant. Really, no complaints at all with this finale.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 23:03:56 GMT -5
I just got it that some folks think Draper took his enlightenment back to NYC, and came up with that horrifyingly effective commercial.
I was so happy for Don, I totally missed that. I thought he was free; and that McCann came up with that swill; the LCD of 12 drunk creative directors.
Either way.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 23:31:50 GMT -5
i didn't have to watch mad men
i lived it
don draper couldn't hold my jock strap
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 0:41:59 GMT -5
I heard you were more like Dawn Draper
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Post by jcappy on May 19, 2015 7:53:34 GMT -5
I just got it that some folks think Draper took his enlightenment back to NYC, and came up with that horrifyingly effective commercial. I was so happy for Don, I totally missed that. I thought he was free; and that McCann came up with that swill; the LCD of 12 drunk creative directors. Either way. Jon Hamm has the same interpretation - I thought it was pretty clearly presented to be the assumption while still being ambiguous enough for others. mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/artsbeat/2015/05/18/mad-men-finale-jon-hamm-interview/?referrer=Q. Do you have an interpretation of it? A. I do. When we find Don in that place, and this stranger relates this story of not being heard or seen or understood or appreciated, the resonance for Don was total in that moment. There was a void staring at him. We see him in an incredibly vulnerable place, surrounded by strangers, and he reaches out to the only person he can at that moment, and it’s this stranger. My take is that, the next day, he wakes up in this beautiful place, and has this serene moment of understanding, and realizes who he is. And who he is, is an advertising man. And so, this thing comes to him. There’s a way to see it in a completely cynical way, and say, “Wow, that’s awful.” But I think that for Don, it represents some kind of understanding and comfort in this incredibly unquiet, uncomfortable life that he has led. There was a little bit of a crumb dropped earlier in the season when Ted says there are three women in every man’s life, and Don says, “You’ve been sitting on that for a while, huh?” There are, not coincidentally, three person to person phone calls that Don makes in this episode, to three women who are important to him for different reasons. You see the slow degeneration of his relationships with those women over the course of those phone calls. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 11:19:51 GMT -5
The lines of that song sound so authentically Draper
"On the back of your mind/it what youre hoping to find/its the real thing."
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Post by Jets Things on May 20, 2015 7:48:26 GMT -5
Watched it last night and enjoyed it overall. At first I hated the "retreat" angle and was like, "where the fuck are they going with this," but as soon as he spoke to Peggy I knew what was going to happen and liked how he finally got Coke. My wife was crushed that Joanie didn't wind up with Bruce Greenwood, but was happy about Peggy and Stan. Betty should have been killed off two seasons ago to further explore the Roger/Sal/Bobby Draper love triangle.
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