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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 2, 2015 9:58:31 GMT -5
I always see this stuff turn into a human vs. animal life debate. But never once have I seen someone sympathizing for the animals claiming that an animal's life is more important than a human's. I guess if you have never had pets or have had a bad experience with animals you are never going to understand. For some people their cats, dogs, horses, etc are their "children" and their reaction to something like this reflects that. And if there is any correlation between children and pets it is that they are both dependent on us and vulnerable. And yes, I eat meat. Well said. Id also add that there are plenty of studies that show cruelty and violence towards animals is a red flag for individuals who will move on to rape and murder, so it behooves us as a society to take it seriously. And, from that perspective, if I were a GM, thats a red flag to me for signing a guy as he could have issues. This wasnt amped up testosterone, bar fight, uber-aggressiveness. This was just sick. I agree except that I think there are differing levels of depravity. Although I will never understand why a 250 pound man would abuse a 10 pound dog I could see it being a crime of passion or jealousy or whatever. What Vick did is much, much worse. Planned and systematic torture of animals. And I dont think that is something you can cure with prison time and sensitivity training. I am glad that most, if not all, the people that helped bring him to our organization are now gone.
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 2, 2015 10:02:29 GMT -5
I always see this stuff turn into a human vs. animal life debate. But never once have I seen someone sympathizing for the animals claiming that an animal's life is more important than a human's. I guess if you have never had pets or have had a bad experience with animals you are never going to understand. For some people their cats, dogs, horses, etc are their "children" and their reaction to something like this reflects that. And if there is any correlation between children and pets it is that they are both dependent on us and vulnerable. And yes, I eat meat. I've had many dogs growing up. In fact, fuckers visiting the art park I lived on used to steal them when my family was at church. Not cool. But I still don't view them as children. They're much MUCH different than a human child. I've found having children is much more rewarding than any pet I've ever owned. And this coming from a person who is a much better pet owner than most of the people here. Because I realize it's a pet, not a child. LOL. Ahh. Now we have another reason why you hate religion. LOL.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 10:16:25 GMT -5
I always see this stuff turn into a human vs. animal life debate. But never once have I seen someone sympathizing for the animals claiming that an animal's life is more important than a human's. I guess if you have never had pets or have had a bad experience with animals you are never going to understand. For some people their cats, dogs, horses, etc are their "children" and their reaction to something like this reflects that. And if there is any correlation between children and pets it is that they are both dependent on us and vulnerable. And yes, I eat meat. I've had many dogs growing up. In fact, fuckers visiting the art park I lived on used to steal them when my family was at church. Not cool. But I still don't view them as children. They're much MUCH different than a human child. I've found having children is much more rewarding than any pet I've ever owned. And this coming from a person who is a much better pet owner than most of the people here. Because I realize it's a pet, not a child. LOL. another reason you hate church. this place is like peeling an onion anyway i agree that dogs aren't like children, but they can be inspiring in different ways. my parents always bought dogs with issues like blindness, illness etc. because they thought those animals deserved to be loved too. we had a weiner dog that was born without legs. my job was to take him out for a drag twice a day. stupid mutt could only learn one trick: roll over yeah kids are def better
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jun 2, 2015 12:44:55 GMT -5
Disgustingly ironic, ha? It is just fucking sickening the way people think, people's heads are screwed on backwards I think. I just sometimes wish I was raised in the 40-50's, seemed like a nicer world to live in. It is all going to shit at light speed. Aaaa fuck it, no more soap box shit, it's not worth it. I've seen people scream about how Mike Vick should have been put down because of what he did to those poor dogs...and then post about how they are against the death penalty for people who kill other people. I know people who treat their stupid f*cking rat dogs better than their own children. Everyone knows what Mike Vick did. Anyone know what Christopher Turryle Bryant did? Of course not. Exploited teenage girls just aren't as important as cute wittle puppy dawgs. But everyone knows about Josh Duggar now. And not surprisingly, there has been a rush to defend him, by "Christian" conservatives. www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/05/27/what-the-rush-to-defend-josh-duggar-tells-us-about-conservative-christian-morality/Plus, there are well set up child protection services organizations in every locality that handle reports about child abuse, so it doesn't need a level of "advertisement" that animal abuse might. In fact they have often swung to the opposite pendulum where child protective services can get you arrested for nothing more harmful than leaving your 4 yo in a car in a parking lot while you run into a store for a few minutes. www.salon.com/2015/04/19/what_a_horrible_mother_moms_arrested_for_leaving_their_kids_in_the_car/It is like we have turned into a "surveillance society" everybody minding everyobdy else's business as one of the arrested mothers says.
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Post by PK on Jun 2, 2015 17:30:26 GMT -5
I've seen people scream about how Mike Vick should have been put down because of what he did to those poor dogs...and then post about how they are against the death penalty for people who kill other people. I know people who treat their stupid f*cking rat dogs better than their own children. Everyone knows what Mike Vick did. Anyone know what Christopher Turryle Bryant did? Of course not. Exploited teenage girls just aren't as important as cute wittle puppy dawgs. But everyone knows about Josh Duggar now. And not surprisingly, there has been a rush to defend him, by "Christian" conservatives. www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/05/27/what-the-rush-to-defend-josh-duggar-tells-us-about-conservative-christian-morality/Plus, there are well set up child protection services organizations in every locality that handle reports about child abuse, so it doesn't need a level of "advertisement" that animal abuse might. In fact they have often swung to the opposite pendulum where child protective services can get you arrested for nothing more harmful than leaving your 4 yo in a car in a parking lot while you run into a store for a few minutes. www.salon.com/2015/04/19/what_a_horrible_mother_moms_arrested_for_leaving_their_kids_in_the_car/It is like we have turned into a "surveillance society" everybody minding everyobdy else's business as one of the arrested mothers says. But we all love a good steak, amirite? :-)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 17:38:32 GMT -5
I've seen people scream about how Mike Vick should have been put down because of what he did to those poor dogs...and then post about how they are against the death penalty for people who kill other people. I know people who treat their stupid f*cking rat dogs better than their own children. Everyone knows what Mike Vick did. Anyone know what Christopher Turryle Bryant did? Of course not. Exploited teenage girls just aren't as important as cute wittle puppy dawgs. But everyone knows about Josh Duggar now. And not surprisingly, there has been a rush to defend him, by "Christian" conservatives. www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/05/27/what-the-rush-to-defend-josh-duggar-tells-us-about-conservative-christian-morality/uh, there's a poli forum for this crap. maybe i'll chime in and talk about how lena dunham bragged about sexually abusing her little sister yet she's still a shining beacon of womanhood to all on the left
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jun 2, 2015 17:44:05 GMT -5
But we all love a good steak, amirite? :-) Sure, why not? (Unless there's a joke in there that went over my head)
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jun 2, 2015 17:44:54 GMT -5
uh, there's a poli forum for this crap. maybe i'll chime in and talk about how lena dunham bragged about sexually abusing her little sister yet she's still a shining beacon of womanhood to all on the left Use your mod powers for good
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Post by PK on Jun 2, 2015 17:52:36 GMT -5
But we all love a good steak, amirite? :-) Sure, why not? (Unless there's a joke in there that went over my head) Steaks used to be animals. Lol. I'm being contrarian. Just PK being Pk :-)
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jun 2, 2015 17:56:09 GMT -5
Sure, why not? (Unless there's a joke in there that went over my head) Steaks used to be animals. Lol. I'm being contrarian. Just PK being Pk :-) I know but I didn't know which button you were trying to push. You make incorrect assumptions about me.
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Post by leftturn3 on Jun 3, 2015 6:06:09 GMT -5
It wasn't any nicer, people just didn't talk about anything and pretended like everything was fine Exactly. same shit, maybe worse, back then. People just had their heads in the sand. And social media and technology and the news cycle expose it so much more, and so much more quickly. Ah, maybe your right. i got nothing, I find it disgusting on both fronts.
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Post by PK on Jun 3, 2015 6:52:12 GMT -5
Exactly. same shit, maybe worse, back then. People just had their heads in the sand. And social media and technology and the news cycle expose it so much more, and so much more quickly. Ah, maybe your right. i got nothing, I find it disgusting on both fronts. Yeah. But we also have people who believe in Onion articles and take diet and medical advice from fuckholes like Dr. Oz and "Foodbabe".
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Post by frostlich on Jun 3, 2015 9:48:45 GMT -5
This thread needs more SAR.
Or not.
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