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Post by rangerous on Oct 27, 2015 6:02:26 GMT -5
yeah we all know that ivory had a hamstring pull early in the game and wasn't that effective. but it seems to me that the running game was working better when colon was out and winters was in. no knock on colon but winters is bigger and younger. a few extra blocks here and there and who knows?
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Post by Harrier on Oct 27, 2015 6:34:16 GMT -5
I'd love for Winters to work, be nice to have the guard position settled goin forward.
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Post by cgjet on Oct 27, 2015 9:09:30 GMT -5
In the near future, the O line must be upgraded, and get younger for the Jets to challenge in the AFC East. This upgrade must be balanced with other positional needs/upgrades, either via the draft, trade or free agency. Not an easy task, but I have faith in the new GM to get this done.
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Post by carlito1171 on Oct 27, 2015 9:29:48 GMT -5
The fact that we could even realistically have this debate is a feat within itself!
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Post by rangerous on Oct 27, 2015 11:49:03 GMT -5
The fact that we could even realistically have this debate is a feat within itself! well, yes it is. but the question remains, did having colon for rg impact the running game? i don't know. what i do know is that winters did pretty well in the games colon sat out. |
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Post by 2foolish on Oct 27, 2015 11:51:04 GMT -5
colon has kept his penalties down?...
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Post by jetstream23 on Oct 27, 2015 13:30:19 GMT -5
In the near future, the O line must be upgraded, and get younger for the Jets to challenge in the AFC East. This upgrade must be balanced with other positional needs/upgrades, either via the draft, trade or free agency. Not an easy task, but I have faith in the new GM to get this done. I agree, but the Jets HAVE tried over and over to upgrade and get younger. They seem to draft or sign at least 1-2 O-Linemen every year (Winters isn't old, Aboushi drafted a few years ago, Dozier last year, Harrison this year). The problem seems to be that they haven't hit that home run yet. The Jets haven't found that one surprise guy who gets drafted in Round 4 and then surprises everyone in camp by immediately winning a starting OG spot. And when that doesn't happen you have to do things like sign a Breno Giacomini and a James Carpenter. |
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Post by rangerous on Oct 27, 2015 16:18:27 GMT -5
In the near future, the O line must be upgraded, and get younger for the Jets to challenge in the AFC East. This upgrade must be balanced with other positional needs/upgrades, either via the draft, trade or free agency. Not an easy task, but I have faith in the new GM to get this done. I agree, but the Jets HAVE tried over and over to upgrade and get younger. They seem to draft or sign at least 1-2 O-Linemen every year (Winters isn't old, Aboushi drafted a few years ago, Dozier last year, Harrison this year). The problem seems to be that they haven't hit that home run yet. The Jets haven't found that one surprise guy who gets drafted in Round 4 and then surprises everyone in camp by immediately winning a starting OG spot. And when that doesn't happen you have to do things like sign a Breno Giacomini and a James Carpenter. they haven't hit a home run but rex never even let some of them step up to the plate. now that the truth is leaking out it seems pretty clear that rex did not develop players very well and it was far easier for them to sign guys on decline to short contracts hoping that they would pan out. remember back in 98 and 99? tuna drafted fabini, young and thomas. those guys turned out pretty well. recently they tried drafting fairly high for ducasse. slauson sin't playing that badly. austin howard wasn't that back at right tackle. so to me it seems like they've had mangold and brick forever and have rotated a whole bunch of guys through and hardly ever let a young player get established. we'll see. it seems like bowles has a dofferent attitude about getting players in the game. |
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Post by jetstream23 on Oct 27, 2015 17:06:27 GMT -5
Slauson was the big F up by Tanny/Rex. The Jets were too concerned with admitting they screwed up on drafting Ducasse in Round 2 so they let Slauson walk. In hindsight, they should have cut bait earlier with Ducasse and signed Matt Slauson longterm. It's been an annual search for OG ever since that happened.
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Post by carlito1171 on Oct 27, 2015 18:34:04 GMT -5
In the near future, the O line must be upgraded, and get younger for the Jets to challenge in the AFC East. This upgrade must be balanced with other positional needs/upgrades, either via the draft, trade or free agency. Not an easy task, but I have faith in the new GM to get this done. I agree, but the Jets HAVE tried over and over to upgrade and get younger. They seem to draft or sign at least 1-2 O-Linemen every year (Winters isn't old, Aboushi drafted a few years ago, Dozier last year, Harrison this year). The problem seems to be that they haven't hit that home run yet. The Jets haven't found that one surprise guy who gets drafted in Round 4 and then surprises everyone in camp by immediately winning a starting OG spot. And when that doesn't happen you have to do things like sign a Breno Giacomini and a James Carpenter. We've invested mid to late round picks in OL. It's hard to develop OL in this new CBA, not enough pad time. We will have to use a high pick eventually to bring in a blue chip OL prospect..... |
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Post by Hotman on Oct 28, 2015 0:53:59 GMT -5
Slauson was the big F up by Tanny/Rex. The Jets were too concerned with admitting they screwed up on drafting Ducasse in Round 2 so they let Slauson walk. In hindsight, they should have cut bait earlier with Ducasse and signed Matt Slauson longterm. It's been an annual search for OG ever since that happened. I think a lot of us knew that at the time. And it became obvious when you factor in people like the ghost and Wayne Hunter. I remember feeling some doubt at that time and hoping a lot of the doubters were wrong... They weren't. |
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Post by Fishooked on Oct 28, 2015 7:26:18 GMT -5
I'd rather have a colon than go through another winter
oh wait
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Post by jetstream23 on Oct 28, 2015 10:43:43 GMT -5
Slauson was the big F up by Tanny/Rex. The Jets were too concerned with admitting they screwed up on drafting Ducasse in Round 2 so they let Slauson walk. In hindsight, they should have cut bait earlier with Ducasse and signed Matt Slauson longterm. It's been an annual search for OG ever since that happened. I think a lot of us knew that at the time. And it became obvious when you factor in people like the ghost and Wayne Hunter. I remember feeling some doubt at that time and hoping a lot of the doubters were wrong... They weren't. I think Slauson made a Pro Bowl once or twice with Chicago after he went there. |
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Post by jetfan29 on Oct 28, 2015 18:00:26 GMT -5
Colon Blow....there...hadda say it!
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