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Post by Chesapeakejet on Nov 5, 2015 12:56:17 GMT -5
I think we have better coaching.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 12:59:34 GMT -5
This is a broken record 7 years and counting... Not accurate this year. Jets offense is 7th in Yards per game and 11th in points per game. Stats can be misleading, but Jets offense is no where near a liability. Same old story, all that matters are the points in their games and they are hardly an asset. However, Fitz has done a lil better than I expected a D needs help from an O that's a fact.
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Nov 5, 2015 13:06:46 GMT -5
Not accurate this year. Jets offense is 7th in Yards per game and 11th in points per game. Stats can be misleading, but Jets offense is no where near a liability. Same old story, all that matters are the points in their games and they are hardly an asset. However, Fitz has done a lil better than I expected a D needs help from an O that's a fact.Again, they are 11th in the league. Averaging almost identical PPG as the Packers offense. It's not the same old story, neither by eye test or statistics.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 13:11:15 GMT -5
Same old story, all that matters are the points in their games and they are hardly an asset. However, Fitz has done a lil better than I expected a D needs help from an O that's a fact. Again, they are 11th in the league. Averaging almost identical PPG as the Packers offense. It's not the same old story, neither by eye test or statistics. It's when you score not the average that matters.
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Nov 5, 2015 13:24:55 GMT -5
Again, they are 11th in the league. Averaging almost identical PPG as the Packers offense. It's not the same old story, neither by eye test or statistics. It's when you score not the average that matters. I'm sorry, but that is just a flat out dumb statement. Maybe instead of asking our offense that is down to 2nd string QB and Center with Ivory, Marshall and Decker, to score 35 points to beat Oakland, maybe a more reasonable expectation is not allowing Oakland to score 34 points. The Jets D just allowing say 21 points to Oakland is hardly carrying the offense. Did the Offense carry the defense against Washington?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 14:43:26 GMT -5
It's when you score not the average that matters. I'm sorry, but that is just a flat out dumb statement. Maybe instead of asking our offense that is down to 2nd string QB and Center with Ivory, Marshall and Decker, to score 35 points to beat Oakland, maybe a more reasonable expectation is not allowing Oakland to score 34 points. The Jets D just allowing say 21 points to Oakland is hardly carrying the offense. Did the Offense carry the defense against Washington? So it's how the league does not your team specifically? Last year I don't think this teams O averaged the league average in PPG, and you want a D to work with that? Check out Cam's numbers compared to Kaps stats mean nothing for the most part it's what you do or don't do on game day against your opponent that's all that matters. I realize this O has it tough, I'm talking generalities not excuses.
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Post by southparkcpa on Nov 5, 2015 16:05:35 GMT -5
I think we have better coaching. I think our cheerleaders nice....
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Nov 5, 2015 16:30:55 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but that is just a flat out dumb statement. Maybe instead of asking our offense that is down to 2nd string QB and Center with Ivory, Marshall and Decker, to score 35 points to beat Oakland, maybe a more reasonable expectation is not allowing Oakland to score 34 points. The Jets D just allowing say 21 points to Oakland is hardly carrying the offense. Did the Offense carry the defense against Washington? So it's how the league does not your team specifically? Last year I don't think this teams O averaged the league average in PPG, and you want a D to work with that? Check out Cam's numbers compared to Kaps stats mean nothing for the most part it's what you do or don't do on game day against your opponent that's all that matters. I realize this O has it tough, I'm talking generalities not excuses. Seriously, are you drunk? Nothing you type makes any sense at all. At best, what I can gather, you are stating that when our defense allows 34 points, if our offense doesn't score 35. They suck. You also keep talking about what "you do on gameday" that matters. Where the hell do stats come from? If it's not from games, I've misunderstood sports my entire lives. Finally, what in the fuck does anything to do with last year's team have any relevance on how our offense or defense is or is not performing this year?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 17:48:11 GMT -5
Prior you were talking about league averages perhaps I responded to the wrong reply, must be the booze and lack of education. If you review my statement I used the word generalities etc., however, the word excuses would apply to a lack of personnel which coaches and teams don't make well, excuses, for the lack there of those players. Game day well that would be the day the Jets play we don't care what the league average is we care about the difference in points compared to our opponent is, could take 1, some game days you may need 35 and sometimes the O has to step up and rule the day. I'm not much of a typer, so I'm not the best at putting words down would love to talk in person.
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Nov 5, 2015 18:49:00 GMT -5
Prior you were talking about league averages perhaps I responded to the wrong reply, must be the booze and lack of education. If you review my statement I used the word generalities etc., however, the word excuses would apply to a lack of personnel which coaches and teams don't make well, excuses, for the lack there of those players. Game day well that would be the day the Jets play we don't care what the league average is we care about the difference in points compared to our opponent is, could take 1, some game days you may need 35 and sometimes the O has to step up and rule the day. I'm not much of a typer, so I'm not the best at putting words down would love to talk in person. I knew what you were getting at. I was pissed off at work and being a dickwad.
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Post by rangerous on Nov 5, 2015 19:16:29 GMT -5
the bottom line is this is a statement game for the jets. they lose and they may as well kiss the season goodbye. and this from the person who thinks 12-4 is possible. i know that many teams try to load up with high priced free agents to improve the team. but it seems like most fail because the free agents are either not as good as advertised or they are un motivated. look at the redskins not too long ago. i also think the jet vets have more character than to just mail it in. they will play hard. also, the patsies sort of exposed the jet pass rush and oakland exploited it. i suspect bowles will have the defense sorted out.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Nov 5, 2015 19:18:27 GMT -5
I think the Defense comes out angry on Sunday. Bowles took them behind the woodshed this week... If Mangold plays we'll win easily. If he doesn't all bets are off.... Hope so. They were supposed to do that after losing to the Pats and looked how that turned out
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 20:19:11 GMT -5
GReeN OUT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 21:11:18 GMT -5
Prior you were talking about league averages perhaps I responded to the wrong reply, must be the booze and lack of education. If you review my statement I used the word generalities etc., however, the word excuses would apply to a lack of personnel which coaches and teams don't make well, excuses, for the lack there of those players. Game day well that would be the day the Jets play we don't care what the league average is we care about the difference in points compared to our opponent is, could take 1, some game days you may need 35 and sometimes the O has to step up and rule the day. I'm not much of a typer, so I'm not the best at putting words down would love to talk in person. I knew what you were getting at. I was pissed off at work and being a dickwad. ok
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Nov 6, 2015 9:16:51 GMT -5
I think we have better coaching. I think our cheerleaders nice....
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