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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 28, 2015 10:01:24 GMT -5
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Dec 28, 2015 11:39:41 GMT -5
I was completely surprised by the depth of Brady's desire to avoid being hit. Earlier in the season, I felt his practice of just falling to the ground in the face of a free rusher was genius. It allowed him to both avoid a hit and stole the glory of the sack from the rusher. Can you really celebrate touching down a QB who is in the fetal position before you get there? But, Brady has taken his desire not to be hit to heights yet unseen in successful QB's. He literally chucked and ducked a few times against the Jets and on any throw where he even risked getting "bumped" as the ball was released, he would kind of turn and run as he completed his throwing motion. I'm all for good QB's doing what is necessary to avoid hits (it would be nice if Fitz would slide) but Brady was letting his desire not to be hit effect any throw where there was even a risk of being touched. In a nutshell, he seemed to be playing scared. Whether he was just worried about getting injured and missing the playoffs, or has just reached the age where the hits are not worth it, is the real question. I'm hoping for the latter.
Hats off to Fitz. I've never seen a guy do more with less. It hardly ever looks easy, but he makes the plays he needs to make. He is the anti--Brady in that he is totally fearless. Amazingly, he may also be the only QB who is less athletic than Brady. But, he puts points on the board and that is what the job of being QB is all about. He hardly ever gets sacked, and it's not because the O line is great. His decisions are almost always the right one, and he leads the best Jets O I've seen in quite awhile.
Coach Bowles is a keeper. He gets the most out of his guys and I do believe he has become better at game-planning, adjustments, and in-game decision making. I love the guy.
Chan Gailey was born to be an OC. He leans on his studs, but will call anyone's number if he thinks a play will work. He understands that schemes can only take you so far, and it is players making plays that wins football games.
Hats off to the MacMadman. The guy re-built the Jets in one season. I'll even let him slide for not addressing the lack of an NFL quality TE after Amaro went down.
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Post by Peebag on Dec 28, 2015 11:43:02 GMT -5
I was completely surprised by the depth of Brady's desire to avoid being hit. Earlier in the season, I felt his practice of just falling to the ground in the face of a free rusher was genius. It allowed him to both avoid a hit and stole the glory of the sack from the rusher. Can you really celebrate touching down a QB who is in the fetal position before you get there? But, Brady has taken his desire not to be hit to heights yet unseen in successful QB's. He literally chucked and ducked a few times against the Jets and on any throw where he even risked getting "bumped" as the ball was released, he would kind of turn and run as he completed his throwing motion. I'm all for good QB's doing what is necessary to avoid hits (it would be nice if Fitz would slide) but Brady was letting his desire not to be hit effect any throw where there was even a risk of being touched. In a nutshell, he seemed to be playing scared. Whether he was just worried about getting injured and missing the playoffs, or has just reached the age where the hits are not worth it, is the real question. I'm hoping for the latter. Hats off to Fitz. I've never seen a guy do more with less. It hardly ever looks easy, but he makes the plays he needs to make. He is the anti--Brady in that he is totally fearless. Amazingly, he may also be the only QB who is less athletic than Brady. But, he puts points on the board and that is what the job of being QB is all about. He hardly ever gets sacked, and it's not because the O line is great. His decisions are almost always the right one, and he leads the best Jets O I've seen in quite awhile. Coach Bowles is a keeper. He gets the most out of his guys and I do believe he has become better at game-planning, adjustments, and in-game decision making. I love the guy. Chan Gailey was born to be an OC. He leans on his studs, but will call anyone's number if he thinks a play will work. He understands that schemes can only take you so far, and it is players making plays that wins football games. Hats off to the MacMadman. The guy re-built the Jets in one season. I'll even let him slide for not addressing the lack of an NFL quality TE after Amaro went down. yea but Brady's O-line has been decimated - I'd be ducking back there as well if Wilk was bearing down on me as he was yesterday. |
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Post by carlton on Dec 28, 2015 11:55:17 GMT -5
I was completely surprised by the depth of Brady's desire to avoid being hit. Earlier in the season, I felt his practice of just falling to the ground in the face of a free rusher was genius. It allowed him to both avoid a hit and stole the glory of the sack from the rusher. Can you really celebrate touching down a QB who is in the fetal position before you get there? But, Brady has taken his desire not to be hit to heights yet unseen in successful QB's. He literally chucked and ducked a few times against the Jets and on any throw where he even risked getting "bumped" as the ball was released, he would kind of turn and run as he completed his throwing motion. I'm all for good QB's doing what is necessary to avoid hits (it would be nice if Fitz would slide) but Brady was letting his desire not to be hit effect any throw where there was even a risk of being touched. In a nutshell, he seemed to be playing scared. Whether he was just worried about getting injured and missing the playoffs, or has just reached the age where the hits are not worth it, is the real question. I'm hoping for the latter. Hats off to Fitz. I've never seen a guy do more with less. It hardly ever looks easy, but he makes the plays he needs to make. He is the anti--Brady in that he is totally fearless. Amazingly, he may also be the only QB who is less athletic than Brady. But, he puts points on the board and that is what the job of being QB is all about. He hardly ever gets sacked, and it's not because the O line is great. His decisions are almost always the right one, and he leads the best Jets O I've seen in quite awhile. Coach Bowles is a keeper. He gets the most out of his guys and I do believe he has become better at game-planning, adjustments, and in-game decision making. I love the guy. Chan Gailey was born to be an OC. He leans on his studs, but will call anyone's number if he thinks a play will work. He understands that schemes can only take you so far, and it is players making plays that wins football games. Hats off to the MacMadman. The guy re-built the Jets in one season. I'll even let him slide for not addressing the lack of an NFL quality TE after Amaro went down. There were several big throws he could have made if he stepped into them and took the hit. |
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Post by TRUE Jet Fan on Dec 28, 2015 12:11:57 GMT -5
I was completely surprised by the depth of Brady's desire to avoid being hit. Earlier in the season, I felt his practice of just falling to the ground in the face of a free rusher was genius. It allowed him to both avoid a hit and stole the glory of the sack from the rusher. Can you really celebrate touching down a QB who is in the fetal position before you get there? But, Brady has taken his desire not to be hit to heights yet unseen in successful QB's. He literally chucked and ducked a few times against the Jets and on any throw where he even risked getting "bumped" as the ball was released, he would kind of turn and run as he completed his throwing motion. I'm all for good QB's doing what is necessary to avoid hits (it would be nice if Fitz would slide) but Brady was letting his desire not to be hit effect any throw where there was even a risk of being touched. In a nutshell, he seemed to be playing scared. Whether he was just worried about getting injured and missing the playoffs, or has just reached the age where the hits are not worth it, is the real question. I'm hoping for the latter. Hats off to Fitz. I've never seen a guy do more with less. It hardly ever looks easy, but he makes the plays he needs to make. He is the anti--Brady in that he is totally fearless. Amazingly, he may also be the only QB who is less athletic than Brady. But, he puts points on the board and that is what the job of being QB is all about. He hardly ever gets sacked, and it's not because the O line is great. His decisions are almost always the right one, and he leads the best Jets O I've seen in quite awhile. Coach Bowles is a keeper. He gets the most out of his guys and I do believe he has become better at game-planning, adjustments, and in-game decision making. I love the guy. Chan Gailey was born to be an OC. He leans on his studs, but will call anyone's number if he thinks a play will work. He understands that schemes can only take you so far, and it is players making plays that wins football games. Hats off to the MacMadman. The guy re-built the Jets in one season. I'll even let him slide for not addressing the lack of an NFL quality TE after Amaro went down. Yeah, because there were so many NFL caliber TE's hanging around. Oh wait. You just had to get your little SOJ dig in there, you succeeded. Nice job brah. |
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Dec 28, 2015 12:48:29 GMT -5
I was completely surprised by the depth of Brady's desire to avoid being hit. Earlier in the season, I felt his practice of just falling to the ground in the face of a free rusher was genius. It allowed him to both avoid a hit and stole the glory of the sack from the rusher. Can you really celebrate touching down a QB who is in the fetal position before you get there? But, Brady has taken his desire not to be hit to heights yet unseen in successful QB's. He literally chucked and ducked a few times against the Jets and on any throw where he even risked getting "bumped" as the ball was released, he would kind of turn and run as he completed his throwing motion. I'm all for good QB's doing what is necessary to avoid hits (it would be nice if Fitz would slide) but Brady was letting his desire not to be hit effect any throw where there was even a risk of being touched. In a nutshell, he seemed to be playing scared. Whether he was just worried about getting injured and missing the playoffs, or has just reached the age where the hits are not worth it, is the real question. I'm hoping for the latter. Hats off to Fitz. I've never seen a guy do more with less. It hardly ever looks easy, but he makes the plays he needs to make. He is the anti--Brady in that he is totally fearless. Amazingly, he may also be the only QB who is less athletic than Brady. But, he puts points on the board and that is what the job of being QB is all about. He hardly ever gets sacked, and it's not because the O line is great. His decisions are almost always the right one, and he leads the best Jets O I've seen in quite awhile. Coach Bowles is a keeper. He gets the most out of his guys and I do believe he has become better at game-planning, adjustments, and in-game decision making. I love the guy. Chan Gailey was born to be an OC. He leans on his studs, but will call anyone's number if he thinks a play will work. He understands that schemes can only take you so far, and it is players making plays that wins football games. Hats off to the MacMadman. The guy re-built the Jets in one season. I'll even let him slide for not addressing the lack of an NFL quality TE after Amaro went down. Yeah, because there were so many NFL caliber TE's hanging around. Oh wait. You just had to get your little SOJ dig in there, you succeeded. Nice job brah. Why do people confuse objectivity with the SOJ thing. I've been a Jet fan for 40+ years. I know SOJ fans. They are the one's saying the only reason the Jets beat the Pats was to get our hopes up for next week and then the Jets will come up flat against the Bills. My post was nothing like that. Do you prefer a fan site where posters only shower accolades on the Jets? If so, this is no place for you. There are many very knowledgeable posters who take the front office, coaches, and players to task when they make questionable decisions. This does not make them SOJ fans. It makes them intelligent fans. You should learn the difference. You forgot to also mention my backhanded compliments of Fitz. Sorry, if my objectivity is such a downer for you. Feel free to put me on ignore. But honestly, do you really think MacMadman didn't at least make calls to try to address the lack of a TE? I'm certain he did. He just failed to land one. Maybe the asking price for Anthony Fasano (3d string in Tenn) or Brett Celek (2d string to Zach Ertz) was too high and MacMadman was right to say no, but it does not erase the reality that the Jets do not have an NFL quality TE --- a position that Chan Gailey's offense typically uses with high degree of effectiveness. While you may not want to put the responsibility for that failure on MacMadman, I guarantee you that when he self-evaluates his performance for the 2015 roster, the first self-criticism will be his failure to address the lack of a quality starter at TE. This is how successful people operate, and it is one of the reasons I think he is a very good GM. |
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Dec 28, 2015 13:43:35 GMT -5
BTW, with a team fighting against injuries and needing only 1 win (or a Cincy loss) to lock up home field throughout the playoffs, I really thought BB was going to go for 2 after scoring the last TD. Why risk his players health in OT in a close game when he can bet on his HOF QB finding an open man in the endzone from the 2 yard line. I understood BB to be an "odds" guy which is why he goes for it so often on 4th down. Were the odds of winning in OT really any better than the odds of a successful 2 point conversion? If he makes it Pats are leading and need to prevent the Jets from getting a FG, just like happened in the tied game scenario with the extra point. If he fails, Pats try an onside kick to get a chance at a winning FG. Either way, you protect your players from having to play an OT quarter, and if the Pats lose it lessens the blow since his players would know they had a tie if they wanted it. It would almost have the effect of diminishing the Jets win. Strategy and psychology-wise, I think the 2 point conversion attempt was the better decision.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Dec 28, 2015 13:51:49 GMT -5
One final thing, did the Jets D "let" the Pats score a TD at the end to preserve enough time to try for a FG? Harris's efforts to cover the RB did not look legit to me.
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Post by The Turk on Dec 28, 2015 13:59:21 GMT -5
BTW, with a team fighting against injuries and needing only 1 win (or a Cincy loss) to lock up home field throughout the playoffs, I really thought BB was going to go for 2 after scoring the last TD. Why risk his players health in OT in a close game when he can bet on his HOF QB finding an open man in the endzone from the 2 yard line. I understood BB to be an "odds" guy which is why he goes for it so often on 4th down. Were the odds of winning in OT really any better than the odds of a successful 2 point conversion? If he makes it Pats are leading and need to prevent the Jets from getting a FG, just like happened in the tied game scenario with the extra point. If he fails, Pats try an onside kick to get a chance at a winning FG. Either way, you protect your players from having to play an OT quarter, and if the Pats lose it lessens the blow since his players would know they had a tie if they wanted it. It would almost have the effect of diminishing the Jets win. Strategy and psychology-wise, I think the 2 point conversion attempt was the better decision. This is exactly what I was thinking/afraid of when they scored. Per your second question I'm not sure if that's what they did but it sure was the right thing to do. All of us, even me in fucking Istanbul, were dejected after the 4th&9 and knew it was just a matter of time till they punched it in. I'd rather let them score and go kick a field goal which we almost did. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2015 14:05:31 GMT -5
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Post by Chesapeakejet on Dec 28, 2015 14:29:25 GMT -5
I was completely surprised by the depth of Brady's desire to avoid being hit. Earlier in the season, I felt his practice of just falling to the ground in the face of a free rusher was genius. It allowed him to both avoid a hit and stole the glory of the sack from the rusher. Can you really celebrate touching down a QB who is in the fetal position before you get there? But, Brady has taken his desire not to be hit to heights yet unseen in successful QB's. He literally chucked and ducked a few times against the Jets and on any throw where he even risked getting "bumped" as the ball was released, he would kind of turn and run as he completed his throwing motion. I'm all for good QB's doing what is necessary to avoid hits (it would be nice if Fitz would slide) but Brady was letting his desire not to be hit effect any throw where there was even a risk of being touched. In a nutshell, he seemed to be playing scared. Whether he was just worried about getting injured and missing the playoffs, or has just reached the age where the hits are not worth it, is the real question. I'm hoping for the latter. Hats off to Fitz. I've never seen a guy do more with less. It hardly ever looks easy, but he makes the plays he needs to make. He is the anti--Brady in that he is totally fearless. Amazingly, he may also be the only QB who is less athletic than Brady. But, he puts points on the board and that is what the job of being QB is all about. He hardly ever gets sacked, and it's not because the O line is great. His decisions are almost always the right one, and he leads the best Jets O I've seen in quite awhile. Coach Bowles is a keeper. He gets the most out of his guys and I do believe he has become better at game-planning, adjustments, and in-game decision making. I love the guy. Chan Gailey was born to be an OC. He leans on his studs, but will call anyone's number if he thinks a play will work. He understands that schemes can only take you so far, and it is players making plays that wins football games. Hats off to the MacMadman. The guy re-built the Jets in one season. I'll even let him slide for not addressing the lack of an NFL quality TE after Amaro went down. I enjoy Coach Bowles' presser's. He is straight to the point in a subdued quiet way. No fanfare, or bluster. I can see how he would be a calming influence. Lord knows with our history of must win games in Buffalo, we need it. It should be treated as a playoff game, win or go home. |
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Post by crossfire on Dec 28, 2015 14:38:02 GMT -5
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 28, 2015 15:18:53 GMT -5
• The game started with Fitz throwing done long ones that were bad misses. I've noticed he's started out the previous game the same way. Does it just take him a while to get on the same page with his receivers?
• the Jets running game was gashing the Patriots defense at first but then seemed to tighten up and by the last two drives when they just needed to kill clock but couldn't sustain a drive fir more than 30 seconds (which is why Belli elected to kick). Did they figure out Gaileys fane plan, of what. That's another pattern- dominant offense in first half then shut down more or less in the second.
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Post by thebigragu on Dec 28, 2015 19:18:53 GMT -5
• The game started with Fitz throwing done long ones that were bad misses. I've noticed he's started out the previous game the same way. Does it just take him a while to get on the same page with his receivers? • the Jets running game was gashing the Patriots defense at first but then seemed to tighten up and by the last two drives when they just needed to kill clock but couldn't sustain a drive fir more than 30 seconds (which is why Belli elected to kick). Did they figure out Gaileys fane plan, of what. That's another pattern- dominant offense in first half then shut down more or less in the second. Hes smarter then he is gifted so usually i think those are guys hitting the wrong route. Playing to fits strength like they say chan does would be him putting the ball at a certain spot on the field and the receiver missing that spot. Though yesterday there were drops again when he hit receivers in stride. Plenty of zip on the ball yesterday And I didn't miss your backhanded comments at fitz sonny. To bad for you Hes about to become the all time Jets leading passer something that toy fucking wooden puppet that wanted to be a real BOY Pennington could never accomplish. And less atheletic then Brady Yeah ive seen Brady run for first downs tinme and time again and move up in the pocket like Fitz lol your hate blinds you or your thick headed. But Go Jets we all root for the same team |
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Post by Big L on Dec 28, 2015 19:54:42 GMT -5
• The game started with Fitz throwing done long ones that were bad misses. I've noticed he's started out the previous game the same way. Does it just take him a while to get on the same page with his receivers? • the Jets running game was gashing the Patriots defense at first but then seemed to tighten up and by the last two drives when they just needed to kill clock but couldn't sustain a drive fir more than 30 seconds (which is why Belli elected to kick). Did they figure out Gaileys fane plan, of what. That's another pattern- dominant offense in first half then shut down more or less in the second. - Dunno
- Pats were leaving huge gaps between linemen in the first half. They tightened that shit up in the second half.
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