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Post by rangerous on Jan 5, 2016 19:07:42 GMT -5
I'd take Trump or Sanders. I just want someone, anyone, who is not in the back pocket of Wall Street, GE, et al. And don't kid yourself, they ALL are. It began when Rockefeller, Carnegie, and JP Morgan joined forces to buy the election for a candidate they could "control" because Williams Jennings Bryan and his "trust busting", barnstorming presidential run in support of the common man scared the shit out of them. So, they hand picked McKinley, and bought the election for him. Sadly for them, they paid little attention to his VP, and when McKinley was killed in Buffalo, Teddy R - who share a lot of Bryan's views on the abuse of big businesses - took the reins and went hard after the corporate barons who were squeezing every penny out of the working class. Since that time, the "donor" class has learned you need to control both parties and all candidates, just to be safe. They've done a heck of a job, and we are all paying the consequences. It's sad that Trump and Sanders are not more eloquent in stating there views, but IMO a majority of americans regardless of political positions would love to have a President not beholden to his owners, sorry I mean donors. imo it was teddy roosevelt knocking out taft in 1912 that really started political corruption on the national level. after that election both parties made it their goal to prevent thrid party candidates from getting on the national ballot. the made it nearly impossible for a 3rd party candidate by changing the state rules. and this mainly because wilson (hossible president) won the election and then screwed the country up with the income tax and the creation of the fed.
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Post by rangerous on Jan 5, 2016 19:10:20 GMT -5
the thing is, trump did pretty well as a team owner. he owned the new jersey genrals and won with the likes of herschel walker and doug flutie. walt michaels was the coach.
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Post by Gunnails on Jan 5, 2016 19:25:52 GMT -5
Trump Killed the USFL..
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Post by shootmenow on Jan 7, 2016 0:01:15 GMT -5
Holy shit all I wanted to do is lighten up the depression here and it turned into a political debate. Do you guys really think any of these douchebags (Trump, Hillary, whoever) will give a fuck about getting your child's legs blown off in the next isis\'stan\south American war if it ups their votes by a tenth of a percent? And I say that as a Marine Viet Nam and Desert Storm vet. Or that any of them have a clue how to foresee the next financial crisis? How can anyone be passionate about these worthless disgusting bags of dicks? Do I have the answer? Of course fucking not! I stick my head in the sand and hope for another accident like Ronnie (who looked like a total loser from the outside) to come along and change the whole frigging world.
So can we get back to the great Pinocchio Pats graphic or the fact that Buffalo is so stupid that they are using a drumstick to represent their wings?
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Post by TRUE Jet Fan on Jan 7, 2016 8:09:23 GMT -5
I'm voting for DONALD TRUMP! He is the ONLY candidate talking about China and Mexico stealing our jobs and killing us in trade! He WILL put an end to ISIS and make America GREAT again!
TRUMP IN 2016!!!!!!
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Post by Ff2 on Jan 7, 2016 8:12:20 GMT -5
I'm voting for DONALD TRUMP! He is the ONLY candidate talking about China and Mexico stealing our jobs and killing us in trade! He WILL put an end to ISIS and make America GREAT again! TRUMP IN 2016!!!!!!He cheats at golf.
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Post by TRUE Jet Fan on Jan 7, 2016 8:12:55 GMT -5
Holy shit all I wanted to do is lighten up the depression here and it turned into a political debate. Do you guys really think any of these douchebags (Trump, Hillary, whoever) will give a fuck about getting your child's legs blown off in the next isis\'stan\south American war if it ups their votes by a tenth of a percent? And I say that as a Marine Viet Nam and Desert Storm vet. Or that any of them have a clue how to foresee the next financial crisis? How can anyone be passionate about these worthless disgusting bags of dicks? Do I have the answer? Of course fucking not! I stick my head in the sand and hope for another accident like Ronnie (who looked like a total loser from the outside) to come along and change the whole frigging world. So can we get back to the great Pinocchio Pats graphic or the fact that Buffalo is so stupid that they are using a drumstick to represent their wings? Trump is the ONLY candidate who isn't bought out by donors and special interests. He will do what is necessary to defend the country, but not at the expense of getting us involved in endless, expensive wars overseas. Trump is a pragmatist and will do what is in the best interest of the country, rather than what Wall Street and the Zionist Jew establishment tell him to do. Even Sanders - who I feel genuinely wants to do the right thing for the country - is funded by Super PAC money to some extent. Trump is a once-in-a-lifetime shot to make the country great again. We are fucked if he doesn't get elected. Oh and one more thing, he WILL build a wall to keep you the illegal scum invading our country. And Mexico will pay for it!!!
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Post by vin on Jan 7, 2016 10:34:25 GMT -5
In light of the Hydrogen Bomb Testing situation in North Korea, I'm just imagining what Trump would do in response. Bet he'd give the go-ahead for an invasion of North Korea to destroy their nuclear capabilities....(because why wait for them to drop a bomb on everyone else's head before doing anything?) So yes. I would most likely vote for Trump. Oh and FF2? Everyone cheats at golf.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Jan 7, 2016 10:39:43 GMT -5
Holy shit all I wanted to do is lighten up the depression here and it turned into a political debate. Do you guys really think any of these douchebags (Trump, Hillary, whoever) will give a fuck about getting your child's legs blown off in the next isis\'stan\south American war if it ups their votes by a tenth of a percent? And I say that as a Marine Viet Nam and Desert Storm vet. Or that any of them have a clue how to foresee the next financial crisis? How can anyone be passionate about these worthless disgusting bags of dicks? Do I have the answer? Of course fucking not! I stick my head in the sand and hope for another accident like Ronnie (who looked like a total loser from the outside) to come along and change the whole frigging world. So can we get back to the great Pinocchio Pats graphic or the fact that Buffalo is so stupid that they are using a drumstick to represent their wings? Trump is the ONLY candidate who isn't bought out by donors and special interests. He will do what is necessary to defend the country, but not at the expense of getting us involved in endless, expensive wars overseas. Trump is a pragmatist and will do what is in the best interest of the country, rather than what Wall Street and the Zionist Jew establishment tell him to do. Even Sanders - who I feel genuinely wants to do the right thing for the country - is funded by Super PAC money to some extent. Trump is a once-in-a-lifetime shot to make the country great again. We are fucked if he doesn't get elected. Oh and one more thing, he WILL build a wall to keep you the illegal scum invading our country. And Mexico will pay for it!!! Holy Shit! We agree on something! See, contrary to what the press and establishment say, Trump is a Uniter not a Divider.
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Post by rangerous on Jan 7, 2016 18:00:20 GMT -5
Holy shit all I wanted to do is lighten up the depression here and it turned into a political debate. Do you guys really think any of these douchebags (Trump, Hillary, whoever) will give a fuck about getting your child's legs blown off in the next isis\'stan\south American war if it ups their votes by a tenth of a percent? And I say that as a Marine Viet Nam and Desert Storm vet. Or that any of them have a clue how to foresee the next financial crisis? How can anyone be passionate about these worthless disgusting bags of dicks? Do I have the answer? Of course fucking not! I stick my head in the sand and hope for another accident like Ronnie (who looked like a total loser from the outside) to come along and change the whole frigging world. So can we get back to the great Pinocchio Pats graphic or the fact that Buffalo is so stupid that they are using a drumstick to represent their wings? Trump is the ONLY candidate who isn't bought out by donors and special interests. He will do what is necessary to defend the country, but not at the expense of getting us involved in endless, expensive wars overseas. Trump is a pragmatist and will do what is in the best interest of the country, rather than what Wall Street and the Zionist Jew establishment tell him to do. Even Sanders - who I feel genuinely wants to do the right thing for the country - is funded by Super PAC money to some extent. Trump is a once-in-a-lifetime shot to make the country great again. We are fucked if he doesn't get elected. Oh and one more thing, he WILL build a wall to keep you the illegal scum invading our country. And Mexico will pay for it!!! i'm more in a anyone but hill mood but trump certainly has something going for him besides the fact he's a billionaire. one thing that really hasn't been brought out (at least directly) is that trump has had to deal with all of these politcal morons like hill and bill. he was successful by being able to cut deals with the government morons. to me, this means that he will be more than able to deal with the morons when he wants to get his policies passed. where he is failing is that he hasn't been very descriptive of what his policies will actually be. where's the plan man. of course there aren't many plans coming from anyone although hill has made it clear she is out to punish the middle class for earning too much. she is also out to punish anyone who has a job with a private company and heaven forbid if you are a republican. hill means more taxes and more taxes and more government regulation and more pandering to criminals. i've had my fill of hill.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 7, 2016 23:58:57 GMT -5
I'm voting for DONALD TRUMP! He is the ONLY candidate talking about China and Mexico stealing our jobs and killing us in trade! He WILL put an end to ISIS and make America GREAT again! TRUMP IN 2016!!!!!!LOL his products are made in China and he hires Mexicans to work in his hotels
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Post by DDNYjets on Jan 8, 2016 7:54:04 GMT -5
I wish we could get more of you in the politics forums. I miss some of the old faces and wacky arguments.
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Post by TRUE Jet Fan on Jan 8, 2016 8:06:21 GMT -5
I'm voting for DONALD TRUMP! He is the ONLY candidate talking about China and Mexico stealing our jobs and killing us in trade! He WILL put an end to ISIS and make America GREAT again! TRUMP IN 2016!!!!!!LOL his products are made in China and he hires Mexicans to work in his hotels Of course he has his products made in China - he's a businessman. Do you have any idea how cheap the cost of labor is over there? The reason for that is because China so manipulates their currency and constantly beats the US like a drum on trade agreements. Trump is brutally honest about making his products in China; he consistently states in interviews how he hates having to do it and wishes he could do it in America. The bottom line is that Trump knows the problem has the means to fix it. He's going to get guys like Carl Ichan to negotiate better trade pacts with China and play hardball incase China tries to devalue their yuan against the dollar. We're not going to have losers like Caroline Kennedy handle negotations. Trump knows the best and brightest negotiators in the world and he's not going to allow that to happen. As for Mexico - Trump NEVER directly hired illegals to work in his hotels. He employs contractors, who in turn sub-contract, to develop his properties. Trump has no control over who the sub-contractors employ, which is why you constantly hear accounts of illegals working on Trump properties and serving in his hotels. Trump has been very tough on immigration from day one and has never bowed down to media pressure or the establishment. If anything, he has only intensified his message on keeping out illegal Mexicans and building the wall along the border.
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Post by TRUE Jet Fan on Jan 8, 2016 8:12:55 GMT -5
Trump is the ONLY candidate who isn't bought out by donors and special interests. He will do what is necessary to defend the country, but not at the expense of getting us involved in endless, expensive wars overseas. Trump is a pragmatist and will do what is in the best interest of the country, rather than what Wall Street and the Zionist Jew establishment tell him to do. Even Sanders - who I feel genuinely wants to do the right thing for the country - is funded by Super PAC money to some extent. Trump is a once-in-a-lifetime shot to make the country great again. We are fucked if he doesn't get elected. Oh and one more thing, he WILL build a wall to keep you the illegal scum invading our country. And Mexico will pay for it!!! i'm more in a anyone but hill mood but trump certainly has something going for him besides the fact he's a billionaire. one thing that really hasn't been brought out (at least directly) is that trump has had to deal with all of these politcal morons like hill and bill. he was successful by being able to cut deals with the government morons. to me, this means that he will be more than able to deal with the morons when he wants to get his policies passed. where he is failing is that he hasn't been very descriptive of what his policies will actually be. where's the plan man. of course there aren't many plans coming from anyone although hill has made it clear she is out to punish the middle class for earning too much. she is also out to punish anyone who has a job with a private company and heaven forbid if you are a republican. hill means more taxes and more taxes and more government regulation and more pandering to criminals. i've had my fill of hill. I totally agree man, Hillary would be such a disaster if she were to be elected. The Clintons and Bushes are absolutely awful. I hope for a Trump-Sanders election. I might disagree with Sanders on nearly all of his policies, but at least he won't completely sell out the U.S. to special interests and Wall Street bankers.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Jan 8, 2016 9:41:25 GMT -5
i'm more in a anyone but hill mood but trump certainly has something going for him besides the fact he's a billionaire. one thing that really hasn't been brought out (at least directly) is that trump has had to deal with all of these politcal morons like hill and bill. he was successful by being able to cut deals with the government morons. to me, this means that he will be more than able to deal with the morons when he wants to get his policies passed. where he is failing is that he hasn't been very descriptive of what his policies will actually be. where's the plan man. of course there aren't many plans coming from anyone although hill has made it clear she is out to punish the middle class for earning too much. she is also out to punish anyone who has a job with a private company and heaven forbid if you are a republican. hill means more taxes and more taxes and more government regulation and more pandering to criminals. i've had my fill of hill. I totally agree man, Hillary would be such a disaster if she were to be elected. The Clintons and Bushes are absolutely awful. I hope for a Trump-Sanders election. I might disagree with Sanders on nearly all of his policies, but at least he won't completely sell out the U.S. to special interests and Wall Street bankers. A friend of mine said, "how could you like Trump, he's not even a real Republican." This made me finally made me come to realize the true nature of my political views. I am a Small Government, Fiscal Conservative, Social Libertarian, Economic Progressive. The Economic Progressive part should not be confused with general ideas income redistribution. When I say Economic Progressive, I am speaking mostly of how our economy functions via big business essentially getting government to make rules to help them. So, I am in favor of breaking up the big banks, closing the tax loopholes that allow Apple and GE to pay virtually no taxes, etc... In reality the same type of "Trust Busting" made famous by our last Progressive Republican President, Teddy Roosevelt. I've done a little research, and I think that the Constitution Party is the Party whose views are most consistent with mine. However, since we don't have open primaries in PA, I think I'll keep my GOP registration for the time being.
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