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Post by Peebag on Jan 11, 2016 14:54:16 GMT -5
I'm a Sanders guy myself - Trump is made for reality TV low IQ folks.(not saying that you are dumb) Cruz is an Ivy League megolamanic masquerading as a tough guy from Texas. LOL I'm so tired of hearing this bullshit being peddled around. Since when did this stereotype of Trump supporters being low-IQ start up? Speaking for myself, I have two college degrees - including a Masters - and fully support Trump, as do many of my other educated friends. Trump has massive appeal to nearly all demographics, since incompetence and corruption are universally-recognizable flaws that apply to our current government. I don't think anyone is calling you stupid, just a tremendous dickhead.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Jan 11, 2016 15:09:37 GMT -5
LOL I'm so tired of hearing this bullshit being peddled around. Since when did this stereotype of Trump supporters being low-IQ start up? Speaking for myself, I have two college degrees - including a Masters - and fully support Trump, as do many of my other educated friends. Trump has massive appeal to nearly all demographics, since incompetence and corruption are universally-recognizable flaws that apply to our current government. I don't think anyone is calling you stupid, just a tremendous dickhead. I too have a post graduate degree and plan to vote for Trump. IMO, the implication that no one who is intelligent would support Trump is part of the establishment effort to beat him. BTW, I do find it odd that the some people attack Trump claiming he is not a real Republican, but rather a Democrat in disguise pointing to his positions on issues in the past and the democratic candidates he gave money to, and then other people attack him saying he is a hate-mongering fascist who will start WWIII. So, am I supposed to believe his a a hate-mongering fascist violent Democrat?
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Post by Chesapeakejet on Jan 11, 2016 16:32:28 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is calling you stupid, just a tremendous dickhead. I too have a post graduate degree and plan to vote for Trump. IMO, the implication that no one who is intelligent would support Trump is part of the establishment effort to beat him. BTW, I do find it odd that the some people attack Trump claiming he is not a real Republican, but rather a Democrat in disguise pointing to his positions on issues in the past and the democratic candidates he gave money to, and then other people attack him saying he is a hate-mongering fascist who will start WWIII. So, am I supposed to believe his a a hate-mongering fascist violent Democrat? I think that's reserved for Billary. You wanna have our military spread thin all over the globe? Hillary the Hawk will do it. Trump says a lot of what the silent majority is thinking, but he'll never get cooperation from Congress. It looks like I'll be saying Fuck all y'all again and voting Libertarian.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 11, 2016 16:45:58 GMT -5
I'm a Sanders guy myself - Trump is made for reality TV low IQ folks.(not saying that you are dumb) Cruz is an Ivy League megolamanic masquerading as a tough guy from Texas. LOL I'm so tired of hearing this bullshit being peddled around. Since when did this stereotype of Trump supporters being low-IQ start up? Speaking for myself, I have two college degrees - including a Masters - and fully support Trump, as do many of my other educated friends. Trump has massive appeal to nearly all demographics, since incompetence and corruption are universally-recognizable flaws that apply to our current government. Since they started polling supporters. Cruz and Trump are splitting the uneducated vote. The majority of Cruz supporters have no college degree and are devout church goers, while the Majority of Trump supporters have no college degree and don't go to church. Your personal experience is nothing but that www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/15/who-really-supports-donald-trump-ted-cruz-ben-carson-marco-rubio-and-jeb-bush-in-5-charts/thefederalist.com/2015/08/05/heres-the-lowdown-on-who-supports-donald-trump/
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Post by chadp on Jan 11, 2016 21:03:54 GMT -5
I'm a Sanders guy myself - Trump is made for reality TV low IQ folks.(not saying that you are dumb) Cruz is an Ivy League megolamanic masquerading as a tough guy from Texas. LOL I'm so tired of hearing this bullshit being peddled around. Since when did this stereotype of Trump supporters being low-IQ start up? Speaking for myself, I have two college degrees - including a Masters - and fully support Trump, as do many of my other educated friends. Trump has massive appeal to nearly all demographics, since incompetence and corruption are universally-recognizable flaws that apply to our current government. It's surprising someone as highly educated as yourself would support a demagogue who offers no plausible ideas for reform, calls people names like an 8th grader and just makes things up as he goes. Frankly, Mr. Trump's popularity is a result of a complete lack of faith in the political process brought on by Democrats and Repiblicans alike. I'd rather chew glass than vote for Hillary, so I probably won't vote all for the first time ever.
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Post by TRUE Jet Fan on Jan 12, 2016 9:32:25 GMT -5
I'm not denying that he gets a lot of uneducated voter support. Much of his rhetoric appeals to rural/blue collar workers who have been screwed over by illegal immigration and corporations off-shoring cheap labor overseas. But to suggest that he is the candidate solely for "stupid" people is absurd. Trump has more common sense than any candidate I've seen in my life. He is brutally honest and touches on issues that make sense for Americans across multiple demographics. Fixing the border, dealing with ISIS, making wealthy corporations pay their fair share, etc. You go to a Trump rally, and you'll see just as many blue collar guys as you'll see yuppies in polo shirts. Also, the CNN and ABC/Wash Post are liberal outlets that are pro-Hillary and pro-Establishment. Even Fox, despite being right-leaning, is pro-Establishment and will bias their studies in any way possible to criticize Trump. The mass media has truly reared its ugly heads in ways I never thought were possible. The media is supposed to be in the position of bringing objective information and commentary to the masses. Instead, they are staging class warfare between the elites and the common man, claiming that having the support of the poor and uneducated is somehow a "bad" thing. Fuck them all. Fuck shillary, fuck the media, fuck the establishment. TRUMP IN 2016!!!!!
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Post by thebigragu on Jan 12, 2016 10:05:18 GMT -5
FBI's Clinton probe expands to public corruption track
EXCLUSIVE: The FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of private email as secretary of state has expanded to look at whether the possible “intersection” of Clinton Foundation work and State Department business may have violated public corruption laws, three intelligence sources not authorized to speak on the record told Fox News.
This new investigative track is in addition to the focus on classified material found on Clinton’s personal server.
"The agents are investigating the possible intersection of Clinton Foundation donations, the dispensation of State Department contracts and whether regular processes were followed," one source said.
Clinton, speaking to the Des Moines Register, on Monday pushed back on the details of a second investigative track. According to reporter Jennifer Jacobs, Clinton said Monday she has heard nothing from the FBI.
"No, there’s nothing like that that is happening," Clinton said, according to a tweet from Jacobs.
Experts including a former senior FBI agent said the bureau does not have to notify the subject of an investigation.
The development follows press reports over the past year about the potential overlap of State Department and Clinton Foundation work, and questions over whether donors benefited from their contacts inside the administration.
The Clinton Foundation is a public charity, known as a 501(c)(3). It had grants and contributions in excess of $144 million in 2013, the most current available data.
Inside the FBI, pressure is growing to pursue the case.
One intelligence source told Fox News that FBI agents would be “screaming” if a prosecution is not pursued because “many previous public corruption cases have been made and successfully prosecuted with much less evidence than what is emerging in this investigation.”
The FBI is particularly on edge in the wake of how the case of former CIA Director David Petraeus was handled.
One of the three sources said some FBI agents felt Petraeus was given a slap on the wrist for sharing highly classified information with his mistress and biographer Paula Broadwell, as well as lying to FBI agents about his actions. Petraeus pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor in March 2015 after a two-plus-year federal investigation in which Attorney General Eric Holder initially declined to prosecute.
In the Petraeus case, the exposure of classified information was assessed to be limited.
By contrast, in the Clinton case, the number of classified emails has risen to at least 1,340. A 2015 appeal by the State Department to challenge the “Top Secret” classification of at least two emails failed and, as Fox News first reported, is now considered a settled matter.
It is unclear which of the two lines of inquiry was opened first by the FBI and whether they eventually will be combined and presented before a special grand jury. One intelligence source said the public corruption angle dates back to at least April 2015. On their official website, the FBI lists "public corruption as the FBI's top criminal priority."
Fox News is told that about 100 special agents assigned to the investigations also were asked to sign non-disclosure agreements, with as many as 50 additional agents on “temporary duty assignment,” or TDY. The request to sign a new NDA could reflect that agents are handling the highly classified material in the emails, or serve as a reminder not to leak about the case, or both.
"The pressure on the lead agents is brutal," a second source said. "Think of it like a military operation, you might need tanks called in along with infantry."
Separately, a former high-ranking State Department official emphasized to Fox News that Clinton’s deliberate non-use of her government email address may be increasingly “significant.”
“It is virtually automatic when one comes on board at the State Department to be assigned an email address,” the source said.
“It would have taken an affirmative act not to have one assigned ... and it would also mean it was all planned out before she took office. This certainly raises questions about the so-called legal advice she claimed to have received from inside the State Department that what she was doing was proper."
On Sunday, when asked about her email practices while secretary of state, Clinton insisted to CBS News’ "Face The Nation," "there is no there, there."
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 12, 2016 12:42:11 GMT -5
FBI's Clinton probe expands to public corruption track EXCLUSIVE: The FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of private email as secretary of state has expanded to look at whether the possible “intersection” of Clinton Foundation work and State Department business may have violated public corruption laws, three intelligence sources not authorized to speak on the record told Fox News. This new investigative track is in addition to the focus on classified material found on Clinton’s personal server. "The agents are investigating the possible intersection of Clinton Foundation donations, the dispensation of State Department contracts and whether regular processes were followed," one source said. Clinton, speaking to the Des Moines Register, on Monday pushed back on the details of a second investigative track. According to reporter Jennifer Jacobs, Clinton said Monday she has heard nothing from the FBI. "No, there’s nothing like that that is happening," Clinton said, according to a tweet from Jacobs. Experts including a former senior FBI agent said the bureau does not have to notify the subject of an investigation. The development follows press reports over the past year about the potential overlap of State Department and Clinton Foundation work, and questions over whether donors benefited from their contacts inside the administration. The Clinton Foundation is a public charity, known as a 501(c)(3). It had grants and contributions in excess of $144 million in 2013, the most current available data. Inside the FBI, pressure is growing to pursue the case. One intelligence source told Fox News that FBI agents would be “screaming” if a prosecution is not pursued because “many previous public corruption cases have been made and successfully prosecuted with much less evidence than what is emerging in this investigation.” The FBI is particularly on edge in the wake of how the case of former CIA Director David Petraeus was handled. One of the three sources said some FBI agents felt Petraeus was given a slap on the wrist for sharing highly classified information with his mistress and biographer Paula Broadwell, as well as lying to FBI agents about his actions. Petraeus pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor in March 2015 after a two-plus-year federal investigation in which Attorney General Eric Holder initially declined to prosecute. In the Petraeus case, the exposure of classified information was assessed to be limited. By contrast, in the Clinton case, the number of classified emails has risen to at least 1,340. A 2015 appeal by the State Department to challenge the “Top Secret” classification of at least two emails failed and, as Fox News first reported, is now considered a settled matter. It is unclear which of the two lines of inquiry was opened first by the FBI and whether they eventually will be combined and presented before a special grand jury. One intelligence source said the public corruption angle dates back to at least April 2015. On their official website, the FBI lists "public corruption as the FBI's top criminal priority." Fox News is told that about 100 special agents assigned to the investigations also were asked to sign non-disclosure agreements, with as many as 50 additional agents on “temporary duty assignment,” or TDY. The request to sign a new NDA could reflect that agents are handling the highly classified material in the emails, or serve as a reminder not to leak about the case, or both. "The pressure on the lead agents is brutal," a second source said. "Think of it like a military operation, you might need tanks called in along with infantry." Separately, a former high-ranking State Department official emphasized to Fox News that Clinton’s deliberate non-use of her government email address may be increasingly “significant.” “It is virtually automatic when one comes on board at the State Department to be assigned an email address,” the source said. “It would have taken an affirmative act not to have one assigned ... and it would also mean it was all planned out before she took office. This certainly raises questions about the so-called legal advice she claimed to have received from inside the State Department that what she was doing was proper." On Sunday, when asked about her email practices while secretary of state, Clinton insisted to CBS News’ "Face The Nation," "there is no there, there." Why don't they look into the donations given to the Clinton Foundation and the favors she subsequently gave to those donors while heading the State Dept, seems like a much richer mother lode of wrongdoing to tap into instead of this email penny ante stuff
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 12, 2016 12:43:36 GMT -5
I'm not denying that he gets a lot of uneducated voter support. Much of his rhetoric appeals to rural/blue collar workers who have been screwed over by illegal immigration and corporations off-shoring cheap labor overseas. But to suggest that he is the candidate solely for "stupid" people is absurd. Trump has more common sense than any candidate I've seen in my life. He is brutally honest and touches on issues that make sense for Americans across multiple demographics. Fixing the border, dealing with ISIS, making wealthy corporations pay their fair share, etc. You go to a Trump rally, and you'll see just as many blue collar guys as you'll see yuppies in polo shirts. Also, the CNN and ABC/Wash Post are liberal outlets that are pro-Hillary and pro-Establishment. Even Fox, despite being right-leaning, is pro-Establishment and will bias their studies in any way possible to criticize Trump. The mass media has truly reared its ugly heads in ways I never thought were possible. The media is supposed to be in the position of bringing objective information and commentary to the masses. Instead, they are staging class warfare between the elites and the common man, claiming that having the support of the poor and uneducated is somehow a "bad" thing. Fuck them all. Fuck shillary, fuck the media, fuck the establishment. TRUMP IN 2016!!!!! Actually you did deny it and now you're backtracking LOL I'm so tired of hearing this bullshit being peddled around. Since when did this stereotype of Trump supporters being low-IQ start up Now you're mixing up stereotype with "solely", nobody said "solely" and the polls show a majority, not exclusive representation.You asked where the 'stereotype' came from, I gave you some sources. And as for those being "liberal" outlets even if they were, polls are polls, again you are going by your personal experience of what you see at a rally. And The Federalist which you seemed to have overlooked:
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Post by thebigragu on Jan 12, 2016 13:36:11 GMT -5
LOL I'm so tired of hearing this bullshit being peddled around. Since when did this stereotype of Trump supporters being low-IQ start up? Speaking for myself, I have two college degrees - including a Masters - and fully support Trump, as do many of my other educated friends. Trump has massive appeal to nearly all demographics, since incompetence and corruption are universally-recognizable flaws that apply to our current government. It's surprising someone as highly educated as yourself would support a demagogue who offers no plausible ideas for reform, calls people names like an 8th grader and just makes things up as he goes. Frankly, Mr. Trump's popularity is a result of a complete lack of faith in the political process brought on by Democrats and Repiblicans alike. I'd rather chew glass than vote for Hillary, so I probably won't vote all for the first time ever. The Very Reason TO vote for Trump is to slap every crooked bought for lying Sociopathic politician in Washington. A government that has failed us for years and turn the keys over to one of us not just like us a billionaire but really at his core just another guy. It would be taking the Government back for the time being. He wont be bought hes got more then enough of his own money, its been far to long that theses pieces of shit have held the power on both sides them and the fucking lobbyists are literally shitting themselves. They are so fucked up on both sides its comical. Its why they hate him. And its why us as citizens should love him even with his flaws.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Jan 12, 2016 13:47:34 GMT -5
It's surprising someone as highly educated as yourself would support a demagogue who offers no plausible ideas for reform, calls people names like an 8th grader and just makes things up as he goes. Frankly, Mr. Trump's popularity is a result of a complete lack of faith in the political process brought on by Democrats and Repiblicans alike. I'd rather chew glass than vote for Hillary, so I probably won't vote all for the first time ever. The Very Reason TO vote for Trump is to slap every crooked bought for lying Sociopathic politician in Washington. A government that has failed us for years and turn the keys over to one of us not just like us a billionaire but really at his core just another guy. It would be taking the Government back for the time being. He wont be bought hes got more then enough of his own money, its been far to long that theses pieces of shit have held the power on both sides them and the fucking lobbyists are literally shitting themselves. They are so fucked up on both sides its comical. Its why they hate him. And its why us as citizens should love him even with his flaws. +++ Billions!!!! Why do people not understand this?
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Post by Chesapeakejet on Jan 12, 2016 14:38:44 GMT -5
LOL I'm so tired of hearing this bullshit being peddled around. Since when did this stereotype of Trump supporters being low-IQ start up? Speaking for myself, I have two college degrees - including a Masters - and fully support Trump, as do many of my other educated friends. Trump has massive appeal to nearly all demographics, since incompetence and corruption are universally-recognizable flaws that apply to our current government. It's surprising someone as highly educated as yourself would support a demagogue who offers no plausible ideas for reform, calls people names like an 8th grader and just makes things up as he goes. Frankly, Mr. Trump's popularity is a result of a complete lack of faith in the political process brought on by Democrats and Repiblicans alike. I'd rather chew glass than vote for Hillary, so I probably won't vote all for the first time ever.Repeat after me..........I will vote Libertarian......I will vote Libertarian.........I will vote Libertarian....
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Post by Chesapeakejet on Jan 12, 2016 14:56:40 GMT -5
LOL his products are made in China and he hires Mexicans to work in his hotels Of course he has his products made in China - he's a businessman. Do you have any idea how cheap the cost of labor is over there? The reason for that is because China so manipulates their currency and constantly beats the US like a drum on trade agreements. Trump is brutally honest about making his products in China; he consistently states in interviews how he hates having to do it and wishes he could do it in America. The bottom line is that Trump knows the problem has the means to fix it. He's going to get guys like Carl Ichan to negotiate better trade pacts with China and play hardball incase China tries to devalue their yuan against the dollar. We're not going to have losers like Caroline Kennedy handle negotations. Trump knows the best and brightest negotiators in the world and he's not going to allow that to happen. As for Mexico - Trump NEVER directly hired illegals to work in his hotels. He employs contractors, who in turn sub-contract, to develop his properties. Trump has no control over who the sub-contractors employ, which is why you constantly hear accounts of illegals working on Trump properties and serving in his hotels. Trump has been very tough on immigration from day one and has never bowed down to media pressure or the establishment. If anything, he has only intensified his message on keeping out illegal Mexicans and building the wall along the border. And if we stop buying the cheap Chinese shit, then his business model will change. I consciously will buy a product made anywhere BUT China. Too many good people out of work here. Unfortunately we can't always avoid it and have to buy "made in China", but maybe that will change one day.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Jan 12, 2016 16:18:31 GMT -5
Of course he has his products made in China - he's a businessman. Do you have any idea how cheap the cost of labor is over there? The reason for that is because China so manipulates their currency and constantly beats the US like a drum on trade agreements. Trump is brutally honest about making his products in China; he consistently states in interviews how he hates having to do it and wishes he could do it in America. The bottom line is that Trump knows the problem has the means to fix it. He's going to get guys like Carl Ichan to negotiate better trade pacts with China and play hardball incase China tries to devalue their yuan against the dollar. We're not going to have losers like Caroline Kennedy handle negotations. Trump knows the best and brightest negotiators in the world and he's not going to allow that to happen. As for Mexico - Trump NEVER directly hired illegals to work in his hotels. He employs contractors, who in turn sub-contract, to develop his properties. Trump has no control over who the sub-contractors employ, which is why you constantly hear accounts of illegals working on Trump properties and serving in his hotels. Trump has been very tough on immigration from day one and has never bowed down to media pressure or the establishment. If anything, he has only intensified his message on keeping out illegal Mexicans and building the wall along the border. And if we stop buying the cheap Chinese shit, then his business model will change. I consciously will buy a product made anywhere BUT China. Too many good people out of work here. Unfortunately we can't always avoid it and have to buy "made in China", but maybe that will change one day. I bought some Hockey Jersey's from China. Quality was excellent. Had the same labels and tags as the $180+ jerseys on NHL.com. So, I presume they were the same exact thing. What I found very funny was that the labels in the shirts said "Made in Canada". I presume they meant it literally i.e that the LABEL was made in Canada.
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Post by Chesapeakejet on Jan 12, 2016 16:42:30 GMT -5
And if we stop buying the cheap Chinese shit, then his business model will change. I consciously will buy a product made anywhere BUT China. Too many good people out of work here. Unfortunately we can't always avoid it and have to buy "made in China", but maybe that will change one day. I bought some Hockey Jersey's from China. Quality was excellent. Had the same labels and tags as the $180+ jerseys on NHL.com. So, I presume they were the same exact thing. What I found very funny was that the labels in the shirts said "Made in Canada". I presume they meant it literally i.e that the LABEL was made in Canada.LOLOLOL!!! I've bought a jersey or two from Hong Kong. Excellent quality. Unfortunately one says "Sanchez" on the back. At least it's a throwback one. lol The place I bought them from has vanished. (Yuki Jersey) Not sure who's out there now.
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