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Post by rangerous on Feb 8, 2016 20:33:03 GMT -5
the jets are seemingly stacked on defense. the broncos were the number 1 defense and it shows. von miller completely dominated the panthers and cam newton. but getting back to the jets, imo we deserved to see a better defense this past season. they started out looking like nfl beaters and finished only okay. the offense carried the team during the second half. i totally agree that the jets don't have any linebackers that can match von miller but he's just one guy. surely they could find some speed even if it means taking a chance on some udfa's. and simms made a stupid comment about the denver corners being the best in the league. huh? did he watch talib nearly throw the game away with the flagrant face mask? how about how softly he was covering the carolina receivers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 20:48:30 GMT -5
That's Rex; Rex can't stop the run with a 4-3 or a 3-4 with the elephantOLB. Wade, good as he is, without Miller and DeWare, he has the same problems. Bowles also seems to believe in the interior pass rush w blitzes.
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Post by rangerous on Feb 9, 2016 7:54:08 GMT -5
That's Rex; Rex can't stop the run with a 4-3 or a 3-4 with the elephantOLB. Wade, good as he is, without Miller and DeWare, he has the same problems. Bowles also seems to believe in the interior pass rush w blitzes. okay, fair enough. we know they need speed on the outside. but at the same time when simms and co start flapping their gums about the broncos having the best 3 corners in the league maybe he had better qualify that with some statement about qb pressure. tariq aqib? just a talented punk. every team knows the way to stop a great qb is by putting him on his back. it is unclear why the jets haven't focused more on getting faster at olb. they tried with davis and pace has been on a downward track for the past few seasons. von miller is a ree agent. not saying that he can be had since denver will probably franchise him but make a better effort. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 10:26:45 GMT -5
The only thing that's stopping the Jets D from being good is the Jets O.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 11:09:55 GMT -5
That's Rex; Rex can't stop the run with a 4-3 or a 3-4 with the elephantOLB. Wade, good as he is, without Miller and DeWare, he has the same problems. Bowles also seems to believe in the interior pass rush w blitzes. okay, fair enough. we know they need speed on the outside. but at the same time when simms and co start flapping their gums about the broncos having the best 3 corners in the league maybe he had better qualify that with some statement about qb pressure. tariq aqib? just a talented punk. every team knows the way to stop a great qb is by putting him on his back. it is unclear why the jets haven't focused more on getting faster at olb. they tried with davis and pace has been on a downward track for the past few seasons. von miller is a ree agent. not saying that he can be had since denver will probably franchise him but make a better effort. I liked what I saw from #26 DEN. Talib fits in. I agree with you that those DBs are aware of how quickly those passes are coming out, and the jump they can get is crazy good. So you and Pheel Simms work it out. lolz |
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Post by Jetworks on Feb 9, 2016 18:16:41 GMT -5
The only thing that's stopping the Jets D from being good is the Jets O. Disagree, the problem is a lack of speed on the defensive side of the ball. If you are running a 3-4 (or hybrid thereof), you need LBs that can at least run sideline to sideline. Davis seems to have the speed but lacks the instincts. Harris is terrific at the PoA, but lacks speed. And the OLB story is the same it's been for 10+ years; slow. |
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Post by rangerous on Feb 9, 2016 18:42:05 GMT -5
The only thing that's stopping the Jets D from being good is the Jets O. Disagree, the problem is a lack of speed on the defensive side of the ball. If you are running a 3-4 (or hybrid thereof), you need LBs that can at least run sideline to sideline. Davis seems to have the speed but lacks the instincts. Harris is terrific at the PoA, but lacks speed. And the OLB story is the same it's been for 10+ years; slow. the broncos had less than 200 yards of total offense in the superbowl yet won. it had to have the worst performance ever by any team in the game. and this is what's so frustrating about the jets. they just haven't been good enough on either side of the ball to be a really good team. not to mention the specials. colquitt showed that he is an excellent punter. what do the jets have? the shanker. and the broncos did a really good job on punt coverage. here's to hoping next season is an improvement. |
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Post by red75bronco on Feb 9, 2016 21:28:51 GMT -5
Panthers turned the ball over 4 times. The sacks were forced, one was a dropped pass and one was a pretty weak fumble. Not to mention all the penalties. The Broncos played well, but the panthers played like shit. There were plays to be made, panthers never chipped Miller. I would have had Tolberts shoulder in his chest every play. This great defense, Pittsburgh absolutely shredded with Antonio brown. You need to be balanced.
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Post by Big L on Feb 10, 2016 5:59:12 GMT -5
Panthers turned the ball over 4 times. The sacks were forced, one was a dropped pass and one was a pretty weak fumble. Not to mention all the penalties. The Broncos played well, but the panthers played like shit. There were plays to be made, panthers never chipped Miller. I would have had Tolberts shoulder in his chest every play. This great defense, Pittsburgh absolutely shredded with Antonio brown. You need to be balanced. That's all I kept hearing from people in Sunday, how great the broncos D was. Then I reminded them about the Pittsburg game. And they say "oh" and mumble something then move on to talk about something else. |
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Post by JetBidi on Feb 10, 2016 13:01:50 GMT -5
colquitt showed that he is an excellent punter. what do the jets have? the shanker. Speaking of which.... Why da fuq is he still on the Jets? Teams began releasing people on Monday. He should be gone already. |
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Post by Aussie Jet on Feb 10, 2016 23:35:43 GMT -5
Panthers turned the ball over 4 times. The sacks were forced, one was a dropped pass and one was a pretty weak fumble. Not to mention all the penalties. The Broncos played well, but the panthers played like shit. There were plays to be made, panthers never chipped Miller. I would have had Tolberts shoulder in his chest every play. This great defense, Pittsburgh absolutely shredded with Antonio brown. You need to be balanced. Read somewhere that the Broncos were surprised that none of the playoff teams they played this year tried to double-team Ware or Miller but simply let the tackle go up against them without any help. Miller absolutely destroyed Remmers whilst Oher turned back into a pumpkin at the worst possible time for Cam. Watching the game, it seemed like his offensive line were taking the same drop-backs as Cam was, trying to slow down the Broncos pass rush. Hopefully Mauldin can take another step forward in the off-season to solidify one OLB slot. I hope the Jets don't need to rely on an old-aged Calvin Pace for generating pass rush out of the linebackers. |
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Post by rangerous on Feb 11, 2016 6:39:42 GMT -5
Panthers turned the ball over 4 times. The sacks were forced, one was a dropped pass and one was a pretty weak fumble. Not to mention all the penalties. The Broncos played well, but the panthers played like shit. There were plays to be made, panthers never chipped Miller. I would have had Tolberts shoulder in his chest every play. This great defense, Pittsburgh absolutely shredded with Antonio brown. You need to be balanced. that's just saying that rothelisberger is better at detecting and avoiding the pass rush better than cam was. and none of the panther receivers matches up to antonio brown. my point is that the jets have invested quite a bit into the defense and they still don't have a really good pass rush. and the argument has been that they need to find a franchise type qb. i disagree with this. chances of them getting a top 5 qb anytime soon are between slim and none. they have the makings of a great defense but maybe the positional priorities need to be changed. as for the qb, fitz is good enough at the moment as long as they have guys like marshall and decker at wr. |
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