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Post by Paradis on Apr 18, 2016 12:18:21 GMT -5
Jets close out a deal they started with TEN - swapping firsts (#20 for their #15), and TWO seconds (#43 & #45) in exchange for M. Wilkerson & our 3rd RND pick.
Jets draft:
1) Corey Coleman WR, Baylor.... Mac has done "extensive" research Coleman (rep. yesterday)
2) Noah Spence OLB, East. Kentucky... met with 3 times, and mac's taken chances (see Marshall)
2) Jaran Reed DT, Alabama.. private workouts and meet
2) Cardale Jones QB, Ohio St.... mac personally went to the proday. best consolation prize left.
4) Joe Dahl OT, Wsh state... jets have been reportedly high on the prospect
7) Tavon Young CB, Temple
7) Tevin Carter SS, Utah
Would you be happy with this? Or would you spend more to move up for Lynch?
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Post by beerfish on Apr 18, 2016 12:44:58 GMT -5
Coleman better be all you say he is from day one if we are taking him at 15. Still lukewarm on Spence due to those character issues. I like the Reed pick okay, not a fan of Cardale Jones. Another guy who got worse in his senior year.
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Post by Paradis on Apr 18, 2016 13:21:50 GMT -5
Coleman better be all you say he is from day one if we are taking him at 15. Still lukewarm on Spence due to those character issues. I like the Reed pick okay, not a fan of Cardale Jones. Another guy who got worse in his senior year. I don't like the Jones pick much - tho I definitely think he's better than he looked last year. Meyer never truly committed to him in 2015. Not a recipe for success. In fine with Spence in Rnd 2. They met with him enough times that they know what they're getting. |
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Post by Paradis on Apr 18, 2016 13:26:58 GMT -5
If Coleman is as good as I think he is, then we'll have the best trio of WRs in the NFL next year. Hell, if Devin makes a miraculous recovery - we'll have the best / unique 4-set ever.
Too bad we'd have no QB... (Insert even Geno remarks here)
Speaking of which. Macc's gotta have a plan B.
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Post by beerfish on Apr 18, 2016 13:54:02 GMT -5
If Coleman is as good as I think he is, then we'll have the best trio of WRs in the NFL next year. Hell, if Devin makes a miraculous recovery - we'll have the best / unique 4-set ever. Too bad we'd have no QB... (Insert even Geno remarks here) Speaking of which. Macc's gotta have a plan B. I think the Jets plan at Qb is the same as it was early on. - They want a steady vet to be their starter, Fitz preferrably, if not some other guy like McCown or Hoyer or whatever. - They would like to draft one of the top 3 Qb's and have a bonifide Qb of the future. - They will draft a QB this year regardless if they can't get one of the top three. - They still have hope for Petty, they drafted him and actually traded up one spot to get him. - They will dump Geno the moment they get the vet signed and the young guy drafted. They must have some kind of deadline in mind re Fitzpatrick, I wish that part of the equation was resolved. |
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Post by RobR on Apr 18, 2016 14:06:53 GMT -5
I hate the idea of using Mo to trade up and then going WR. However I like the players you grabbed with the exception of Jones, I wouldn't draft him in any round let alone the second.
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Post by yankeejet22 on Apr 18, 2016 20:07:02 GMT -5
same here on Cardale Jones. Too early...I think he goes in the 3rd. And besides, I like Cook more.
But nice job.
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Apr 18, 2016 21:21:18 GMT -5
Overall I like this draft, but that Cardale Jones pick is killing me. I hope Mac doesn't take him. I could maybe live with him in the 4th-7th rounds. However, if we take him in the 2nd I'm punching the closest person next to me. Also I think Treadwell will be there at 15 so I'd want him over Coleman. I might even take Doctson over Coleman, but it's close.
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Post by Paradis on Apr 18, 2016 22:25:44 GMT -5
Thanks for the thoughts. Know that I'm not exactly thrilled to slot cardale there either... But our respective "dream drafts" are never going to happen. So here's an exercise then RobR Hollywood Nosebleed yankeejet22 ....you're Macc. Woody, Bowles everyone is is the same page -- you HAVE to get a QB.... Goff goes 1, Wentz 2 and SF trades up to #4 and takes Lynch. What do you do? You can't just "push" the issue to next year. |
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Post by RobR on Apr 18, 2016 22:32:13 GMT -5
What do you do? You can't just "push" the issue to next year. Why not, the rest of the players left will never make a difference, so why waste a pick. The only one outside of the top 3 I wouldn't take a fit on is Allen....that's it. |
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Post by Paradis on Apr 18, 2016 22:34:30 GMT -5
What do you do? You can't just "push" the issue to next year. Why not, the rest of the players left will never make a difference, so why waste a pick. The only one outside of the top 3 I wouldn't take a fit on is Allen....that's it. Cause thats the exercise. You're all in. I'd take Allen too, but we haven't invested any time on him and he's perceived to be another 3-4 round project... Like Petty. You see how we quickly get stuck picking between Hack and Jones? It's not good. Which is why I go back to "get lynch at all costs" mentality |
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Post by RobR on Apr 18, 2016 22:41:21 GMT -5
Why not, the rest of the players left will never make a difference, so why waste a pick. The only one outside of the top 3 I wouldn't take a fit on is Allen....that's it. Cause thats the exercise. You're all in. I'd take Allen too, but we haven't invested any time on him and he's perceived to be another 3-4 round project... Like Petty. You see how we quickly get stuck picking between Hack and Jones? It's not good. Which is why I go back to "get lynch at all costs" mentality I've accepted the fact that if we miss out on the top talent at QB, so be it. I'm not wasting a pick on a shitty QB just so I can say we drafted a QB. With our draft position, the recent LA trade, and the more than likely scenario Mo doesn't give us a top pick in a trade what should we do? Reach for a piece of shit or maybe land our next Center or Tackle or Cb......you get the idea. So no, I didn't follow the exercise because it's a poor one. A pick on Jones is worthless, he barely could graduate HS and lost his starting job on the most talented team in the country. I'll take a positional player every time. |
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Post by Paradis on Apr 18, 2016 22:46:38 GMT -5
Cause thats the exercise. You're all in. I'd take Allen too, but we haven't invested any time on him and he's perceived to be another 3-4 round project... Like Petty. You see how we quickly get stuck picking between Hack and Jones? It's not good. Which is why I go back to "get lynch at all costs" mentality I've accepted the fact that if we miss out on the top talent at QB, so be it. I'm not wasting a pick on a shitty QB just so I can say we drafted a QB. With our draft position, the recent LA trade, and the more than likely scenario Mo doesn't give us a top pick in a trade what should we do? Reach for a piece of shit or maybe land our next Center or Tackle or Cb......you get the idea. A pick on Jones is worthless, he barely could graduate HS and lost his starting job on the most talented team in the country. I'll take a positional player every time. I'm not saying you're wrong... but my gut's telling me that Macc is going to pick someone. If it's not one of the top 3, then I - like you - hope we just say fck it too... but how long are we going to do this dance? You know, CLE for all their calamity, haven't ever picked inside the top 2 if i'm not mistaken. At some point, we're more than likely going to have to mortgage a draft or two, to get a Winston, Mariota, Wentz, Lynch.... statistically, it's not a given that we'll ever get a shot inside the first 2-3 picks. |
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Apr 18, 2016 22:54:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the thoughts. Know that I'm not exactly thrilled to slot cardale there either... But our respective "dream drafts" are never going to happen. So here's an exercise then RobR Hollywood Nosebleed yankeejet22 ....you're Macc. Woody, Bowles everyone is is the same page -- you HAVE to get a QB.... Goff goes 1, Wentz 2 and SF trades up to #4 and takes Lynch. What do you do? You can't just "push" the issue to next year. My gut tells me Mac will trade up for the QB he wants. If Lynch goes before pick 14 and we're still at 20 I think he says fuck it. This QB class isn't great. There's a reason we're not signing Fitz right now even tho we hold all the cards. Mac is going to wait until the last minute. He wants one of the top 3 QBs and if he doesn't get one then he'll resign Fitz. I bet he even makes Fitz compete with Geno again if that happens. |
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Post by RobR on Apr 18, 2016 22:55:29 GMT -5
I'm not saying you're wrong... but my gut's telling me that Macc is going to pick someone. I would rate Petty the #4 QB in this draft and he's already had a year under his belt. I hope Mac passes on the rest of these guys if he can't work his magic and move up. I think all three will be gone by the eighth pick....we'll see. |
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