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Post by CTJetsFanII on Apr 20, 2016 13:36:09 GMT -5
what the Rams or Eagles did.....assuming for Geoff or Wentz?
I wouldn't. Neither is a can't miss prospect. We've seen what throwing drat picks away does to the depth of a team after a few years.
Only way this makes sens for Philly is if they trade Bradford and get players/picks back.
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Apr 20, 2016 13:47:14 GMT -5
I'm with you. That price is too steep, especially for guys like Wentz or Goff who are far from slam dunk prospects.
I don't care how good a QB is, they can only carry a shitty roster so far. Ask Andrew Luck. These trades prohibit the teams from filling the roster around them.
In the Rams case, i think it's a little better because their roster is pretty talented outside of QB, so that I could stomach.
The Eagles trade makes zero sense to me though. They are becoming a pretty laughable franchise.
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Post by DowNY on Apr 20, 2016 14:00:36 GMT -5
Like I said few days ago, these 2 QBs weren't even in the discussion for the #1 pick 3 months ago.
Franchise QBs are suppose to be given #1 pick material once the college season ends imo.
Jamies Winston & Marcus Mariota were always top pick material last year.
Feel like sports media needs to create top draft QBs if there isn't any legitimate ones. That's going to grab a lot of views & talk. I'll take my chances keeping our picks, trying to trade Mo for another pick(s) & go from there. I actually like Bryce Petty & willing to give him a shot anyway. Draft Cook or Hack in rd 2 or 3 & let's roll.
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Post by Peebag on Apr 20, 2016 14:08:17 GMT -5
Maybe in a win-now mode but those team's FOs cannot miss with the picks or else it's 4-5 years of craptastic seasons.
I'd rather be sitting with all those picks and a good GM - not to say that's the situation in Tenn or Cleveland
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 14:09:25 GMT -5
Like I said few days ago, these 2 QBs weren't even in the discussion for the #1 pick 3 months ago. Franchise QBs are suppose to be given #1 pick material once the college season ends imo. Jamies Winston & Marcus Mariota were always top pick material last year. Feel like sports media needs to create top draft QBs if there isn't any legitimate ones. That's going to grab a lot of views & talk. I'll take my chances keeping our picks, trying to trade Mo for another pick(s) & go from there. I actually like Bryce Petty & willing to give him a shot anyway. Draft Cook or Hack in rd 2 or 3 & let's roll. +1000 |
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Post by Chesapeakejet on Apr 20, 2016 15:00:42 GMT -5
Nope, too pricey. We need more than a qb with our aging O-line. An edge rusher would be good too.
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Post by carlito1171 on Apr 20, 2016 15:01:48 GMT -5
I would not have been happy....LA and Philly's GMs might be jobless in 2-3 years...
Neither one of these QBs are the 2nd coming of Elway or Luck from a prospect standpoint....I wouldn't even put them in the Winston/Mariota/Newton category...
Don't get me wrong...I would be fine with taking either Goff or Wentz but I would not have paid that ransom to get them...we have way more holes to fill as a team to give up that many picks
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Post by Touchable on Apr 20, 2016 15:06:21 GMT -5
Like I said few days ago, these 2 QBs weren't even in the discussion for the #1 pick 3 months ago. Franchise QBs are suppose to be given #1 pick material once the college season ends imo. Jamies Winston & Marcus Mariota were always top pick material last year. Feel like sports media needs to create top draft QBs if there isn't any legitimate ones. That's going to grab a lot of views & talk. I'll take my chances keeping our picks, trying to trade Mo for another pick(s) & go from there. I actually like Bryce Petty & willing to give him a shot anyway. Draft Cook or Hack in rd 2 or 3 & let's roll. They weren't in the discussion for the #1 pick because everyone knew there was no way the Titans were in the market for a QB after drafting Mariota last year. Goff was always thought of as a Top 5 pick. And Lynch was being talked about as a Top 10 pick before Memphis lost a couple of games down the stretch and Lynch struggled a bit. Wentz just recently creeped into top pick discussion but as more scouts and GM's have had more time to look at him, I understand why. |
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Post by ash1962 on Apr 20, 2016 16:20:06 GMT -5
I agree with all who say it is way too risky to give up so much, for QB's or other players that are not considered slam dunks. this isn't Kevin Costner Draft Day. Then again, maybe it is LOL. |
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Post by Touchable on Apr 20, 2016 16:33:30 GMT -5
I agree with all who say it is way too risky to give up so much, for QB's or other players that are not considered slam dunks. this isn't Kevin Costner Draft Day. Then again, maybe it is LOL. Teams don't trade away the top pick when there's a "slam dunk" QB in the draft. In 2012, some team could've offered the Colts their next 8 1st round picks and Grigson and Irsay would've laughed in their faces and told them to go fuck themselves. QB prospects like Luck and Elway come around once every 20+ years. And you don't have a chance in hell to get them unless you happen to own the #1 pick that year. |
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Post by CTJetsFanII on Apr 20, 2016 16:42:14 GMT -5
I agree with all who say it is way too risky to give up so much, for QB's or other players that are not considered slam dunks. this isn't Kevin Costner Draft Day. Then again, maybe it is LOL. Teams don't trade away the top pick when there's a "slam dunk" QB in the draft. In 2012, some team could've offered the Colts their next 8 1st round picks and Grigson and Irsay would've laughed in their faces and told them to go fuck themselves. QB prospects like Luck and Elway come around once every 20+ years. And you don't have a chance in hell to get them unless you happen to own the #1 pick that year. Only case where a team does is when they took their franchise QB the year before (ex. Tenn.) |
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Post by Touchable on Apr 20, 2016 17:08:22 GMT -5
Teams don't trade away the top pick when there's a "slam dunk" QB in the draft. In 2012, some team could've offered the Colts their next 8 1st round picks and Grigson and Irsay would've laughed in their faces and told them to go fuck themselves. QB prospects like Luck and Elway come around once every 20+ years. And you don't have a chance in hell to get them unless you happen to own the #1 pick that year. Only case where a team does is when they took their franchise QB the year before (ex. Tenn.) Exactly |
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Post by nyjets1969 on Apr 20, 2016 17:29:07 GMT -5
The price was to steep the QBS in this draft are like last years. I still think the Jets want a QB the best one is still available at 20 his name is Connor Cook they have hype Wentz through the roof who came out of a small school with no real competition. Cook came out of a big school with real competition in a pro style offense if the Jets need a QB that's the guy to take. I don't think the Jets will take him he will be A Bronco just have that feeling but I stand by my analysis I still believe Connor Cook is the best QB in this draft who has been blacked out by all the hype over Wentz.
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Post by rangerous on Apr 20, 2016 17:35:08 GMT -5
the thing is the jets still have too many holes to fill to start using draft picks to trade up. they need to upgrade at olb, ilb, and even db. and if they do use a high pick to get a qb he probably won't be ready for prime time at least until the following season. now rookie qb's start all the time. heck genot started and so did sanchez with mixed results but for the team to succeed it needs to be solid in all other aspects. right now the jets are good enough to be a playoff contender assuming genot can start or they sign fitz or hoyer. looking down the road a good draft this year will position them well to keep improving and possibly make the show. this is much like brady did with the patsies. brady had to sit a season and then only came in when bledsoe got knocked out. brady did not do that well his first season as a starter even though they went to the superbowl and won.
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Post by Touchable on Apr 20, 2016 17:40:10 GMT -5
the thing is the jets still have too many holes to fill to start using draft picks to trade up. they need to upgrade at olb, ilb, and even db. and if they do use a high pick to get a qb he probably won't be ready for prime time at least until the following season. now rookie qb's start all the time. heck genot started and so did sanchez with mixed results but for the team to succeed it needs to be solid in all other aspects. right now the jets are good enough to be a playoff contender assuming genot can start or they sign fitz or hoyer. looking down the road a good draft this year will position them well to keep improving and possibly make the show. this is much like brady did with the patsies. brady had to sit a season and then only came in when bledsoe got knocked out. brady did not do that well his first season as a starter even though they went to the superbowl and won. That's a lame excuse IMO. This team is still going to have holes next year too. And the year after that...and the year after that and the year after that. Having a good QB in place can mask some of those deficiencies. Face it, this team is never going to win anything of any significant importance without a legit franchise QB. The Eagles and Rams have holes on their roster...but they know they're never going to accomplish much of anything without a talented young QB behind center. |
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