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Post by Sonny Werblin on May 12, 2016 13:14:15 GMT -5
What about Jews, faggots and Laotians? Don't forget the Albanians. I once a knew a half Laotion, half Albanian, jewish homosexual. He was a victim of spontaneous human combustion.
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Post by Jets Things on May 12, 2016 14:32:56 GMT -5
Don't forget the Albanians. I once a knew a half Laotion, half Albanian, jewish homosexual. He was a victim of spontaneous human combustion. Serves him right for being so racially diverse.
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Post by Ff2 on May 12, 2016 14:57:39 GMT -5
I support Bernie. just not his policies. In all fairness, you do not have to support 100% of any candidate's ideas to support that candidate, and regardless of how the media likes to assume the worst in any statement made by Trump and with all due respect to "your" opinions, the fact is that a ban (or tightening, extra screening, whatever) on Muslim travel into the US is a legitimate issue. I understand that both sides to the issue have good points. But remember, we didn't let Nazi's travel to the US during WW2 and I'm sure lots of them wanted to come here for non-violent reasons. And my point for this thread is that Cosentino had no reason to write that article other than to try and stir trouble for Mangold simply because Mangold supports a candidate that Cosentino does not like. That is the height of douchebaggery. Agreed. My only thought (and I really dont care but) is if someone is going to insert themselves...like introducing them at a rally...I would think they would have a well thought out answer to their feelings about issues...by being a figure at the rally...you become "political" Being a NYJ doesn't excuse you from this. But yeah, the article is 100% shit stirring.
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Post by Ff2 on May 12, 2016 14:58:57 GMT -5
I'm not sure I follow that logic at all. He singled out Mo because Mo is Muslin and Trump has made very controversial statements about Muslims. If Trump made statements about Aussies I would have expected Cosentino to single out our Aussie punters.....if Trump made controversial statements about the Irish, I would have expected Cosentino to single out someone of Irish descent on the team. What about Jews, faggots and Laotians? Leave me the fuck out of this.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on May 12, 2016 16:00:03 GMT -5
In all fairness, you do not have to support 100% of any candidate's ideas to support that candidate, and regardless of how the media likes to assume the worst in any statement made by Trump and with all due respect to "your" opinions, the fact is that a ban (or tightening, extra screening, whatever) on Muslim travel into the US is a legitimate issue. I understand that both sides to the issue have good points. But remember, we didn't let Nazi's travel to the US during WW2 and I'm sure lots of them wanted to come here for non-violent reasons. And my point for this thread is that Cosentino had no reason to write that article other than to try and stir trouble for Mangold simply because Mangold supports a candidate that Cosentino does not like. That is the height of douchebaggery. Agreed. My only thought (and I really dont care but) is if someone is going to insert themselves...like introducing them at a rally...I would think they would have a well thought out answer to their feelings about issues...by being a figure at the rally...you become "political" Being a NYJ doesn't excuse you from this. But yeah, the article is 100% shit stirring. I am also disappointed Mangold did not have a better answer, but then again he is a football player not a politician. I am always annoyed that the opinions of famous people are thought to carry more weight than ours. Who the fuck cares about Leonardo DeCaprio and Jon Voight's political views anyway. Quite honestly, although you and I don't agree on much I give your opinions far more weight than any famous person who fancies himself as a politico. At least you lead a life based in the same reality as me.
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Post by Ff2 on May 12, 2016 18:23:06 GMT -5
Agreed. My only thought (and I really dont care but) is if someone is going to insert themselves...like introducing them at a rally...I would think they would have a well thought out answer to their feelings about issues...by being a figure at the rally...you become "political" Being a NYJ doesn't excuse you from this. But yeah, the article is 100% shit stirring. I am also disappointed Mangold did not have a better answer, but then again he is a football player not a politician. I am always annoyed that the opinions of famous people are thought to carry more weight than ours. Who the fuck cares about Leonardo DeCaprio and Jon Voight's political views anyway. Quite honestly, although you and I don't agree on much I give your opinions far more weight than any famous person who fancies himself as a politico. At least you lead a life based in the same reality as me. I always laugh when I see headlines like..."Iggy Azalea Tweets About Trump." WTF?
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on May 12, 2016 18:33:12 GMT -5
No it's not journalism, it's an opinion piece. You know that by the presence of the byline and contact information for the author at the top of the page. And how is Mo supposed to know Mangold does not support the Muslim ban if he did not refute it? And if by broken screening process you mean that it takes longer than two years and should be faster than yes it's broken Not to pick on you because I do like you but your By line theory is wrong too. Look at pretty much every article on the NY Times homepage. Each has a byline and the writer's contact information. They are not all opinion pieces. Times opinion pieces are marked as such with The Opinion Pages | OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR at the top. I guess I should have specified columnist with a byline. They are paid to give their opinions on anything they want, as execrable as they may be. Here is what the NYTimes says about their columnists Think about Mike Lupica who was a sports columnist but always delved into politics
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Post by DDNYjets on May 13, 2016 5:22:35 GMT -5
Agreed. My only thought (and I really dont care but) is if someone is going to insert themselves...like introducing them at a rally...I would think they would have a well thought out answer to their feelings about issues...by being a figure at the rally...you become "political" Being a NYJ doesn't excuse you from this. But yeah, the article is 100% shit stirring. I think he did give a good enough answer. Actually it was the perfect answer. If he gave a detailed answer then he would have to deal with them every time Donald said something. If he came out against it then they would ask him what else he doesnt agree with. He chose not to feed the beast and now they know the answer he will give. I agree, he is a big boy and inserted himself in it. So thats on him. Ive said it many times if I owned a teams I would have a zero social media policy and I would extend it to include stuff like this. But if he introduced Hillary at a rally do you think he would be getting asked any questions about Hillary's controversies? I think it is important to acknowledge the double standards and, frankly, the lack of professionalism in the media.
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Post by Big L on May 13, 2016 6:38:09 GMT -5
What about Jews, faggots and Laotians? Don't forget the Albanians. No one's talking to you, Albania.
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Post by 2foolish on May 13, 2016 6:44:55 GMT -5
Europe is burning... It's coming here...
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 7:15:26 GMT -5
Islam is not just a religion but a political ideology. So if Mo is a practicing Muslim, then he should be just as much fair game to answer to Consentino's political questions as Mangold was (for the record I think the questions were underhanded and neither player should be asked these questions). Imagine Consentino going up to Mo and saying so you support Islam, should women wear the birqa? How many wives can you have? What's the punishment for stealing? Just as Mangold doesn't have to agree with all of Trump but supports him, Mo doesn't have to agree with all of Islam but supports it. Consentino was just trying to make Mangold look like an ass because Trump supporters are easy targets.
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Post by DDNYjets on May 13, 2016 7:33:01 GMT -5
Does Mangold acknowledge the Armenian genocide?
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Post by Ff2 on May 13, 2016 8:29:53 GMT -5
Agreed. My only thought (and I really dont care but) is if someone is going to insert themselves...like introducing them at a rally...I would think they would have a well thought out answer to their feelings about issues...by being a figure at the rally...you become "political" Being a NYJ doesn't excuse you from this. But yeah, the article is 100% shit stirring. But if he introduced Hillary at a rally do you think he would be getting asked any questions about Hillary's controversies? Probably not but Trump is way better clickbait than HC at this point. Nature of the beast.
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Post by 2foolish on May 13, 2016 9:53:07 GMT -5
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Post by Trades on May 13, 2016 10:35:10 GMT -5
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