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Post by frostlich on Dec 7, 2016 10:55:51 GMT -5
I'm probably going to get roasted here, but if we don't go after Gruden or Cooter, I hope we go after Coughlin. He didn't take shit from anyone. I've heard Coughlins name a few times but how many years does that guy have? He's ancient by now? Probably the type we need though.
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Post by mrcoops on Dec 7, 2016 12:14:49 GMT -5
One of the papers mentioned Todd Haley as a possibility today. Any thoughts?
Has some HC experience, success as an OC in various places, has Jets ties, not afraid to get in people's faces.
Also a little nuts, but not always a bad thing in a HC.
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Post by Chesapeakejet on Dec 7, 2016 12:28:01 GMT -5
It does remind me a bit of just before Parcels took over. This team does have plenty of holes but is not devoid of talent. It is entirely underperforming with the talent that it does have. Maybe it's a bygone era, but you need a coach that will come in and place his foot squarely in the ass of these lazy assed turds. Sorry Bowles...you left it up to these guys to police themselves and be professionals. Didn't work. In terms of missing the playoffs, we haven't been this bad since right before Parcells took over. Only worse period of time was the 70s.I was young and a lot tougher in the 70's though.
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Post by Lithfan on Dec 7, 2016 12:35:46 GMT -5
One of the papers mentioned Todd Haley as a possibility today. Any thoughts? Has some HC experience, success as an OC in various places, has Jets ties, not afraid to get in people's faces. Also a little nuts, but not always a bad thing in a HC. Checks off the two major points I would look for in a head coach: previous head coaching experience and expertise on the offensive side of the ball.
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Post by Harrier on Dec 7, 2016 12:54:55 GMT -5
I'd be on board with Hayley.
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Post by tkasper01 on Dec 7, 2016 13:06:39 GMT -5
One of the papers mentioned Todd Haley as a possibility today. Any thoughts? Has some HC experience, success as an OC in various places, has Jets ties, not afraid to get in people's faces. Also a little nuts, but not always a bad thing in a HC. Checks off the two major points I would look for in a head coach: previous head coaching experience and expertise on the offensive side of the ball. Even if he sucked?
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Post by DDNYjets on Dec 7, 2016 13:09:16 GMT -5
I used to be up on all the coaching candidates. I feel like I dont know any now. I think that is just me distancing myself from this game. The product really is getting worse and worse.
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Post by Lithfan on Dec 7, 2016 13:59:00 GMT -5
Checks off the two major points I would look for in a head coach: previous head coaching experience and expertise on the offensive side of the ball. Even if he sucked? I would not want to do what the Bills did with Rex or the Browns with Mangini and take a guy fresh off a failed head coaching gig. But, if he has gone back to being a coordinator and been successful, if there were reason to believe that he learned from his mistakes the first time around, it wouldn't bother me. We have gone the hot coordinator/first time head coach route ever since Parcells left, and what has it gotten us other than the occasional good season or two with no sustained success.
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Post by Harrier on Dec 7, 2016 16:13:47 GMT -5
Watched casserly on NFL network sayin this is major rebuild job and we should not be talkin about firings. Ha ha covering his butt Pretty remarkable what he was sayin. Just let this sink in, when Bowles and Macc took over they had NO DRAFTED STARTING.... CB's OLB 1 and 2 WR's T RB Wow, add that too no franchise QB and it's a wonder we expect any results at all.
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Post by shootmenow on Dec 8, 2016 0:40:22 GMT -5
My totally uneducated and worthless opinions:
1) Why are we in such deep shit with essentially the same team that won 10 games last year? I think last year the team thought "new coach, I'll play my heart out and see where he takes us" But by the time camp came around everyone realized Bowels wasn't taking them anywhere and just plain quit.
2) The reason I voted fire Bowels now is: let's give the new coach a "no expectations" 4 games to analyze the talent we have now The problem, of course, is that I have no idea who could walk in and take over at this point. I leave that to you brainiacs that follow and analyze that stuff.
3) Given that we won't fire Bowles now, what do we do next year?
a) I don't think big tuna kicked the bucket yet, could we pump him up with B12 and Meth and squeeze one more year out of him?
b) Tuna's younger brother Doug was actually my high school football assistant coach (River Dell, Oradell NJ), but never mind, he was a fat worthless fuck.
c) Convince Belidick that winning at NE anymore is pointless, and if he really want's to give the world the finger he should come back and show how he can turn us from lemons to superbowl champs. As he could have done back in the day if Woody Pecker just gave in to his demands.
d) I have no other options except Trump making Woody Pecker ambassador to the UK and dumping us on Harrier as the London Jets,
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Post by Big L on Dec 8, 2016 6:36:01 GMT -5
3)b. Lol
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Post by Chesapeakejet on Dec 8, 2016 10:42:49 GMT -5
Bring Rex back? lololol
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Dec 8, 2016 15:37:21 GMT -5
Give Bowles time. He was highly sought after and even Bill Parcells believes he has the qualities of a good HC. Just because shit has gone horribly wrong, doesn't mean you just blow everything up and start all over. See e.g. Browns, Bears, Jaguars, Fins, ... It is not a formula for success. Bowles is a hard worker with a history of success at everything he has done. There is no reason why he will not succeed as a HC. I lot of the stuff they are saying about Bowles was said about BB during his stint with the Browns. I say ride it out. Far more of the Jets troubles revolve around the lack of talent at QB, DB and OL than with any problems with the coaching staff.
You can not fairly judge Bowles unless you give him 3 full seasons. The real question is what direction are the Jets headed at the end of his third season. Any coach should at least get that much time when taking over a 4-12 team.
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Post by MDL JET on Dec 8, 2016 18:49:30 GMT -5
Give Bowles time. He was highly sought after and even Bill Parcells believes he has the qualities of a good HC. Just because shit has gone horribly wrong, doesn't mean you just blow everything up and start all over. See e.g. Browns, Bears, Jaguars, Fins, ... It is not a formula for success. Bowles is a hard worker with a history of success at everything he has done. There is no reason why he will not succeed as a HC. I lot of the stuff they are saying about Bowles was said about BB during his stint with the Browns. I say ride it out. Far more of the Jets troubles revolve around the lack of talent at QB, DB and OL than with any problems with the coaching staff. You can not fairly judge Bowles unless you give him 3 full seasons. The real question is what direction are the Jets headed at the end of his third season. Any coach should at least get that much time when taking over a 4-12 team. As frustrated as he's made me over the course of this season. It's just stupid to fire him. This year was honestly a wash. They tried to piggy back off the success of last year, but it failed miserably and that set the whole plan back. Hell they intended to start Geno from day 1 until he knocked out. Now is when they start rebuilding this team and figuring out what pieces need to stay and go. If they go out and sign a guy like Cutler then I have no idea what they're doing. But I wouldn't mind a younger vet who's still a mystery to take a chance on. But that's about it. Roll with the youngins.
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Post by shootmenow on Dec 9, 2016 0:23:06 GMT -5
Give Bowles time. He was highly sought after and even Bill Parcells believes he has the qualities of a good HC. Just because shit has gone horribly wrong, doesn't mean you just blow everything up and start all over. See e.g. Browns, Bears, Jaguars, Fins, ... It is not a formula for success. Bowles is a hard worker with a history of success at everything he has done. There is no reason why he will not succeed as a HC. I lot of the stuff they are saying about Bowles was said about BB during his stint with the Browns. I say ride it out. Far more of the Jets troubles revolve around the lack of talent at QB, DB and OL than with any problems with the coaching staff. You can not fairly judge Bowles unless you give him 3 full seasons. The real question is what direction are the Jets headed at the end of his third season. Any coach should at least get that much time when taking over a 4-12 team. ESPN radio today: Jets are Football Anonymous... everyone is a quitter!
You think that's not the coaches fault?
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