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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Oct 16, 2016 18:30:10 GMT -5
I am being totally serious right now. Idzik was terrible and drafted horrible, untalented losers, but at least he put the cap in good shape. Macc has drafted terrible untalented losers but has also f'd the cap up with huge deals to Revis on the downside of his career and wastes 12 mil on bearded lamo futz, wasting a year when we all could c what futz was during the buffalo meltdown. That Irish bastard should have been run outta town right after that game. Pretty pathetic. I think it's a tie - they both equally fucking suck.
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Post by flushingjet on Oct 16, 2016 18:53:03 GMT -5
I am being totally serious right now. Idzik was terrible and drafted horrible, untalented losers, but at least he put the cap in good shape. Macc has drafted terrible untalented losers but has also f'd the cap up with huge deals to Revis on the downside of his career and wastes 12 mil on bearded lamo futz, wasting a year when we all could c what futz was during the buffalo meltdown. That Irish bastard should have been run outta town right after that game. Pretty pathetic. I think it's a tie - they both equally fucking suck. I heard Fitzpatrick took a 23andme test and he's not Irish. |
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Oct 16, 2016 18:56:57 GMT -5
I am being totally serious right now. Idzik was terrible and drafted horrible, untalented losers, but at least he put the cap in good shape. Macc has drafted terrible untalented losers but has also f'd the cap up with huge deals to Revis on the downside of his career and wastes 12 mil on bearded lamo futz, wasting a year when we all could c what futz was during the buffalo meltdown. That Irish bastard should have been run outta town right after that game. Pretty pathetic. I think it's a tie - they both equally fucking suck. I heard Fitzpatrick took a 23andme test and he's not Irish. Macc is Irish too. Too many miks on the jets. That's a big reason they suck probably. |
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Post by jetstream23 on Oct 16, 2016 23:39:56 GMT -5
Revis will start getting cheaper next year and will soon be cuttable. I believe there are a number of other players who can be released or restructured in the next 1 to 2 years. So I won't kill Macc on the Cap just yet but his draft picks need to start producing. The defensive ones look like they will pan out. Leo Williams, Darron Lee, and Jordan Jenkins could be the future of the D. The picks on offense have been borderline horrific. Devin Smith, both QBs, Brandon Shell and Harrison on the OLine....bad....really bad.
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Post by RobR on Oct 16, 2016 23:57:11 GMT -5
Is it wrong to want Tanny back. We had two of our most successful seasons in the last 48 years under his watch, he drafted four players that will more than likely be inducted into our ring of honor in Brick, Mangold, Harris, and Revis. He crafted contracts with easy outs so I'm not sure why Idzik gets credit for that....anyone could have done it.
His biggest failure was he never drafted that "QB of the future" just like every Gm before him and after him. If it wasn't for Favres shoulder he might be considered our best GM ever yet most vilify him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 0:45:49 GMT -5
Rob, it was Bradway's team of scouts that found them...
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Post by Harrier on Oct 17, 2016 1:42:05 GMT -5
Is it wrong to want Tanny back. We had two of our most successful seasons in the last 48 years under his watch, he drafted four players that will more than likely be inducted into our ring of honor in Brick, Mangold, Harris, and Revis. He crafted contracts with easy outs so I'm not sure why Idzik gets credit for that....anyone could have done it. His biggest failure was he never drafted that "QB of the future" just like every Gm before him and after him. If it wasn't for Favres shoulder he might be considered our best GM ever yet most vilify him. They vilify him for bad draft picks like Vlad Ducasse, Mark Sanchez, Stephen Hill and Kyle Burnt Toast Wilson and rightly so. Tanny was a middle of the pack GM, he whiffed on picks as much as he hit and gave Sanchez that ridiculous extension. You can only judge Idzik on a small sample of work and Macc has yet to be determined having only had 2 drafts although it's not looking great right now. In my book they are all as bad as each other until we see results on the field and end this playoff drought |
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Post by RobR on Oct 17, 2016 8:10:53 GMT -5
Is it wrong to want Tanny back. We had two of our most successful seasons in the last 48 years under his watch, he drafted four players that will more than likely be inducted into our ring of honor in Brick, Mangold, Harris, and Revis. He crafted contracts with easy outs so I'm not sure why Idzik gets credit for that....anyone could have done it. His biggest failure was he never drafted that "QB of the future" just like every Gm before him and after him. If it wasn't for Favres shoulder he might be considered our best GM ever yet most vilify him. They vilify him for bad draft picks like Vlad Ducasse, Mark Sanchez, Stephen Hill and Kyle Burnt Toast Wilson and rightly so. Tanny was a middle of the pack GM, he whiffed on picks as much as he hit and gave Sanchez that ridiculous extension. You can only judge Idzik on a small sample of work and Macc has yet to be determined having only had 2 drafts although it's not looking great right now. In my book they are all as bad as each other until we see results on the field and end this playoff drought Every GM that was here as long as Tanny will have bad picks, it's the nature of the beast. I'm not sticking up for him and I was glad to see him go but in the end but he was the most successful GM the Jets have had in the modern era. It's sad but so is the life of being a Jets fan. |
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Post by TRUE Jet Fan on Oct 17, 2016 8:39:01 GMT -5
This thread proves that the Jets have the absolute Worst fanbase in the history of professional sports. By far.
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Post by Chesapeakejet on Oct 17, 2016 9:48:37 GMT -5
This thread proves that the Jets have the absolute Worst fanbase in the history of professional sports. By far. Not necessarily. You haven't discovered the places where other teams fans go to vent. |
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Post by rangerous on Oct 17, 2016 17:17:42 GMT -5
They vilify him for bad draft picks like Vlad Ducasse, Mark Sanchez, Stephen Hill and Kyle Burnt Toast Wilson and rightly so. Tanny was a middle of the pack GM, he whiffed on picks as much as he hit and gave Sanchez that ridiculous extension. You can only judge Idzik on a small sample of work and Macc has yet to be determined having only had 2 drafts although it's not looking great right now. In my book they are all as bad as each other until we see results on the field and end this playoff drought Every GM that was here as long as Tanny will have bad picks, it's the nature of the beast. I'm not sticking up for him and I was glad to see him go but in the end but he was the most successful GM the Jets have had in the modern era. It's sad but so is the life of being a Jets fan. at this point if devon smith becomes a decent player then you have to give mac the nod. imo the difference is that mac came up through the scouting ranks and idzik was a bean counter. i have no complaints about the way he cut salary but he didn't replace a single player, except for richardson and pryor, through the draft. mac is trying to rebuild this team without go into an 4-12 season or worse. tough job since they don't have the franchise qb picked yet and he still has some pretty high priced vets on the roster. |
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Post by JStokes on Oct 17, 2016 18:50:39 GMT -5
Idzik was, far and away, a MUCH worse GM.
The piece of shit passed on Teddy and Carr and for that I will never forgive him.
His ego would not let him admit he fucked up with Geno and he passed on two franchise QBs.
Fuck John Idzik with a pineapple soaked in Srirachia.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 18:57:05 GMT -5
Mac and Bowles just getting started. Average QB etc. will get you average results.
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Post by ryu79 on Oct 17, 2016 20:23:01 GMT -5
Mac and Bowles just getting started. Average QB etc. will get you average results. Agreed. Will be interesting to see if Macc starts pushing for Petty once he is in playing shape. |
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Post by TRUE Jet Fan on Oct 18, 2016 8:53:30 GMT -5
Idzik's worst move is never talked about on here.
He refused to trade up for OBJ. He had 12 picks, and couldn't even trade two of them for a shot at OBJ.
OBJ was SUPPOSED TO BE A JET. AND WE BLEW IT.
I some times wish we could re-hire John Idzik just so we can fire him immediately again. Over and over for all of eternity.
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