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Post by JStokes on Dec 1, 2016 16:06:45 GMT -5
Earning it and seeing what we have are two different things. I would be shocked if a 12 year vet with chemistry with the entire offense and getting most of the first team snaps wasn't a "better" QB than a neophyte that missed 6 weeks with a bum shoulder. But it's all relative and none of us know the degree of the difference. Is Petty awful in practice? Is he slightly behind Fitz but still isn't yet close to enough to unseat him? Are they tied and the tie goes to the incumbent vet? We just don't know and even if there were a slight difference between the two, Bowles is going to start the vet because he believes he "gives him the best chance to win". I love Petty but I don't know what he's got at this level but some if the things we've asked him to do he's done. Huddle, take snaps from under center, 3-5-7 step drops. Not be overwhelmed by the speed of the game. Until I see him in the field stink it up for an extended period, or possibly play competently, I can't make a fair assessment. The point is, while Fitz may give us the relative better chance to win any given game, what fan gives a fuck. Unfortunately the coaching staff does. _ Please, everyone who has ever played a sport knows that you've got to show it on practice field first. Petty is in his second year in the NFL, has had plenty of practice reps, played pre-season games, and Petty had the chance to show his stuff in an regular season game. He did not show anything that is making people clamor for him to start. You don't get to start just to "see" if you can do it. That is ridiculous. Petty has to earn it by practicing like he is a starter in both his performance and leadership. Russell Wilson earned it in his rookie training camp when no one expected it. Either you WANT it and are CAPABLE, or you're not. I am so freaking tired of excuses being made for Jet players who "could" become something. I say DO IT, or sit on the bench and hope the Jets don't decide to cut your underachieving ass. Coach Bowles has expectations of the players who want to start for him. It's about time someone did for this sorry ass team. Let Petty stew in the notion that Fits sucks and he can't even show enough to unseat the suckiest QB in the NFL. And obviously he's not stinking it up in practice if Bowles has him as the only backup on the game day roster and decided to start him when Fitz was hurt, didn't cut his underachieving ass when he had 3 other QBs on the roster, didn't IR him when he was going to be out for 6 weeks and never brought in a veteran JAG at any point to become the backup. But please tell me how bad he's been looking at practice since you're obviously an eyewitness on a daily basis. And how is he in the QB room. I'm really interested to get your inside scoop. _ |
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Post by Harrier on Dec 1, 2016 16:29:13 GMT -5
The Macc ball washing amongst jet fans needs to stop. The guy has been marginally better than Idzik.
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Post by jdeacon on Dec 1, 2016 17:37:30 GMT -5
One of my favorite scenes, such a good show |
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Post by chrebet80 on Dec 2, 2016 4:20:09 GMT -5
The Macc ball washing amongst jet fans needs to stop. The guy has been marginally better than Idzik. Yea im willing to give macc another year or 2 but im not sold on him at all. I think hes done 2 good things since hes been here... 1.Trading a 5th rounder for marshall. 2.Drafting leonard williams(which was a no brainer) On the other side i can name multiple things hes done wrong.... 1.Drafting as a whole(IMO): i know its to early tell yada yada yada but the 2 drafts hes had are average at best. devin smith is a complete bum made of glass. A waste of a 2nd rd pick for a guy who can only run a go route. We Drafted 2 project qbs who are most likely jouneyman at best, hackenburg in the 2nd was a reach. Darron lee doesnt excite me at all. Mauldin is just another guy. I do like the potential of Burris, and peake tho. 2.overpaying for revis, and cromartie 3.signing a 30 year old rb who is on the decline. 4.trading for ryan clady who is always injured and is currently sitting on IR 5.signing fitztragic, And paying him 12 million dollars. (I wanted hoyer at 2 mill, and i know, who cares, they both suck.) 6. And this is the one that nobody talks about.... Signing wilkerson and letting Snacks walk. Snacks is a top 5 NT probably top 3. Wilkerson is not a top 5 DE in this league. Might just crack the top 10 DEs. To me it was a no brainer. I like wilkerson but to me he is an average player and now a vastly overpaid one. we could have kept snacks for half of what we're paying wilk. we gave him 85 million with 53 mill gaurenteed over 5 years. Snacks got 5 years 46 million. Mo is averaging 17 million dollars a season to snacks 9 million a year. We could of had the better player and also saved 8 mill a year in cap space. Im sure theres more that im forgetting. Oh well |
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Post by Hotman on Dec 2, 2016 4:27:15 GMT -5
6. And this is the one that nobody talks about.... Signing wilkerson and letting Snacks walk. Snacks is a top 5 NT probably top 3. Wilkerson is not a top 5 DE in this league. Might just crack the top 10 DEs. To me it was a no brainer. I like wilkerson but to me he is an average player and now a vastly overpaid one. we could have kept snacks for half of what we're paying wilk. we gave him 85 million with 53 mill gaurenteed over 5 years. Snacks got 5 years 46 million. Mo is averaging 17 million dollars a season to snacks 9 million a year. We could of had the better player and also saved 8 mill a year in cap space. Yep. that is the worst part by far, especially how they knew about this Wilk behind the scenes issues and how it;s blown up in their face |
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Dec 2, 2016 7:57:05 GMT -5
Please, everyone who has ever played a sport knows that you've got to show it on practice field first. Petty is in his second year in the NFL, has had plenty of practice reps, played pre-season games, and Petty had the chance to show his stuff in an regular season game. He did not show anything that is making people clamor for him to start. You don't get to start just to "see" if you can do it. That is ridiculous. Petty has to earn it by practicing like he is a starter in both his performance and leadership. Russell Wilson earned it in his rookie training camp when no one expected it. Either you WANT it and are CAPABLE, or you're not. I am so freaking tired of excuses being made for Jet players who "could" become something. I say DO IT, or sit on the bench and hope the Jets don't decide to cut your underachieving ass. Coach Bowles has expectations of the players who want to start for him. It's about time someone did for this sorry ass team. Let Petty stew in the notion that Fits sucks and he can't even show enough to unseat the suckiest QB in the NFL. Lol so it's either become great immediately or underachieving sucks moose cock. No in between. And yeah, I've played football, baseball and hockey throughout my life so stop with that crap. _  As what, the kicking tee? |
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Post by JStokes on Dec 2, 2016 10:34:32 GMT -5
Lol so it's either become great immediately or underachieving sucks moose cock. No in between. And yeah, I've played football, baseball and hockey throughout my life so stop with that crap. _ As what, the kicking tee? Played all three phases, nearly every play in HS. Wingback, safety, returned all kicks. I was like a white Wes Walker. _ |
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Dec 2, 2016 10:54:09 GMT -5
As what, the kicking tee? Played all three phases, nearly every play in HS. Wingback, safety, returned all kicks. I was like a white Wes Walker. _ did the coach put you in because you were bad in practice and he felt the results would be different in a game if you were given a chance? |
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Post by JStokes on Dec 2, 2016 11:09:37 GMT -5
Played all three phases, nearly every play in HS. Wingback, safety, returned all kicks. I was like a white Wes Walker. _ did the coach put you in because you were bad in practice and he felt the results would be different in a game if you were given a chance? Honestly, can you give us a run down of how Petty has looked in practice and in the meeting room and in film breakdown? How "bad" has he been? If you read back, I never said he was great or good or mediocre in practice, all I said was none of us know. Considering none of us are in the building and have no idea whether the difference between the 2 is massive or merely slight or somewhere in between. I, as a FAN would like to see what Petty has before next season when Fitz won't be here and our season is already lost. I'm not saying that's what the COACHES want, they will play the better player even if the difference between the two is very slight. Who knows, maybe they are even and the tie goes to the vet. Maybe Petty sucks and Bowles can't start him. No one knows. Again, as a FAN, I want to see. Comprende? _ |
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Dec 2, 2016 11:47:35 GMT -5
As what, the kicking tee? Played all three phases, nearly every play in HS. Wingback, safety, returned all kicks. I was like a white Wes Walker. _ More like a fatter, shorter, slower Rudy. |
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Dec 2, 2016 11:53:05 GMT -5
did the coach put you in because you were bad in practice and he felt the results would be different in a game if you were given a chance? Honestly, can you give us a run down of how Petty has looked in practice and in the meeting room and in film breakdown? How "bad" has he been? If you read back, I never said he was great or good or mediocre in practice, all I said was none of us know. Considering none of us are in the building and have no idea whether the difference between the 2 is massive or merely slight or somewhere in between. I, as a FAN would like to see what Petty has before next season when Fitz won't be here and our season is already lost. I'm not saying that's what the COACHES want, they will play the better player even if the difference between the two is very slight. Who knows, maybe they are even and the tie goes to the vet. Maybe Petty sucks and Bowles can't start him. No one knows. Again, as a FAN, I want to see. Comprende? _ He consistently confuses the defensive coverages, and has been unable to shake the tendencies that were developed and reinforced by the spread offense he played in at Baylor i.e. his feel for when a receiver is "open" is lacking because he is looking for receivers running free in open space rather than simply getting separation of a few yards; he is terrible at timing patterns; and he holds the ball too long. While his arm strength is Herculean compared to Fits, his accuracy is only marginally better than Fits. |
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Post by JStokes on Dec 2, 2016 12:03:49 GMT -5
Honestly, can you give us a run down of how Petty has looked in practice and in the meeting room and in film breakdown? How "bad" has he been? If you read back, I never said he was great or good or mediocre in practice, all I said was none of us know. Considering none of us are in the building and have no idea whether the difference between the 2 is massive or merely slight or somewhere in between. I, as a FAN would like to see what Petty has before next season when Fitz won't be here and our season is already lost. I'm not saying that's what the COACHES want, they will play the better player even if the difference between the two is very slight. Who knows, maybe they are even and the tie goes to the vet. Maybe Petty sucks and Bowles can't start him. No one knows. Again, as a FAN, I want to see. Comprende? _ He consistently confuses the defensive coverages, and has been unable to shake the tendencies that were developed and reinforced by the spread offense he played in at Baylor i.e. his feel for when a receiver is "open" is lacking because he is looking for receivers running free in open space rather than simply getting separation of a few yards; he is terrible at timing patterns; and he holds the ball too long. While his arm strength is Herculean compared to Fits, his accuracy is only marginally better than Fits. Do you have a press pass? How do you get into Florham Park on a daily basis? _ |
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Post by chrebet80 on Dec 2, 2016 12:05:19 GMT -5
6. And this is the one that nobody talks about.... Signing wilkerson and letting Snacks walk. Snacks is a top 5 NT probably top 3. Wilkerson is not a top 5 DE in this league. Might just crack the top 10 DEs. To me it was a no brainer. I like wilkerson but to me he is an average player and now a vastly overpaid one. we could have kept snacks for half of what we're paying wilk. we gave him 85 million with 53 mill gaurenteed over 5 years. Snacks got 5 years 46 million. Mo is averaging 17 million dollars a season to snacks 9 million a year. We could of had the better player and also saved 8 mill a year in cap space. Yep. that is the worst part by far, especially how they knew about this Wilk behind the scenes issues and how it;s blown up in their face Even excluding the money part, It would have just made more sense to keep harrison based on the other players on the roster. by letting him walk and resigning wilkerson we now have 3 DE and no DT. Now we have a gaping hole in the middle, sheldon playing out of position at linebacker, with wilk and leonard on the end. Doesnt make sense to me. |
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Post by JStokes on Dec 2, 2016 12:06:43 GMT -5
Played all three phases, nearly every play in HS. Wingback, safety, returned all kicks. I was like a white Wes Walker. _ More like a fatter, shorter, slower Rudy. Lol was the second fastest player in my school and the fastest won the Nassau County and NYS 100 yard dash our senior year. And I've never been fat. But if 5-3 and 7/8ths is shorter than Rudy you got me. _ |
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Post by 2foolish on Dec 2, 2016 12:16:31 GMT -5
Honestly, can you give us a run down of how Petty has looked in practice and in the meeting room and in film breakdown? How "bad" has he been? If you read back, I never said he was great or good or mediocre in practice, all I said was none of us know. Considering none of us are in the building and have no idea whether the difference between the 2 is massive or merely slight or somewhere in between. I, as a FAN would like to see what Petty has before next season when Fitz won't be here and our season is already lost. I'm not saying that's what the COACHES want, they will play the better player even if the difference between the two is very slight. Who knows, maybe they are even and the tie goes to the vet. Maybe Petty sucks and Bowles can't start him. No one knows. Again, as a FAN, I want to see. Comprende? _ He consistently confuses the defensive coverages, and has been unable to shake the tendencies that were developed and reinforced by the spread offense he played in at Baylor i.e. his feel for when a receiver is "open" is lacking because he is looking for receivers running free in open space rather than simply getting separation of a few yards; he is terrible at timing patterns; and he holds the ball too long. While his arm strength is Herculean compared to Fits, his accuracy is only marginally better than Fits. how do u know this?... |
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