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Post by Lithfan on Dec 9, 2016 15:04:22 GMT -5
And now, Winters will be UFA at the end of this season, so after 1 good season out of him, it is time to pay up. Given the state of our OL, we need to find a way to keep him and try to keep the interior of the OL (Carp/Winters/Johnson) intact -- since we will need at least one starting tackle (assuming Breno and Clady are gone and we are not going to roll with Ijalana and Qvale as starters). Agree that you still have to give Macc's draft classes another year or two to evaluate, but the early returns are poor. And you can blame him for all of the $$$ spent on a secondary that absolutely sucks -- Revis, Gilchrist and Skrine are about $28MM in cap charges this year. We have the second highest secondary payroll in the league, (Seattle is #1 and Denver is #3) and we still suck. I hear you, but we had to spend $$ at that spot, we had nothing at CB coming into the 2015 offseason. It was a calculated risk that worked out ok last year and blew up in our face this year. We can also get out of these contracts after this season without a lot of pain. I'm in the minority, but I don't think Gilchrist is as bad as a lot of people make him out to be (his PFF numbers are about average) and I think Skrine can rebound if he plays in the slot again. Revis and Wilkerson having atrocious seasons caused a ripple effect throughout the entire defense. I get that he had to spend money, and I agree that Skrine can be a solid nickel corner. And Revis may or may not have been due to pressure from Woody, but I would have liked to see him spread the money around instead of focusing almost exclusively on the secondary. Unless I am forgetting someone, the major free agent signings were all secondary plus James Carpenter, who is probably Macc's best signing.
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Post by cgjet on Dec 9, 2016 16:53:45 GMT -5
V Ducasse S Hill Geno D Smith K Wilson Q Coples D Milliner J Amaro C Pryor D McDougle. All dogshit wasted picks and we wonder why we suck, our GM's can't draft, we just don't hit enough and that's the primary reason we are in this mess. All of the above is just embarrassing. Give me Dorsey and R McKenzie over Macc all day long. I just threw up looking at that list.
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Post by Yankees45 on Dec 9, 2016 17:42:17 GMT -5
V Ducasse S Hill Geno D Smith K Wilson Q Coples D Milliner J Amaro C Pryor D McDougle. All dogshit wasted picks and we wonder why we suck, our GM's can't draft, we just don't hit enough and that's the primary reason we are in this mess. All of the above is just embarrassing. Give me Dorsey and R McKenzie over Macc all day long. Can Devin smith actually get in the game and play before you talk shit about him, and Pryor is a contributor .everything else correct
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Post by jetstream23 on Dec 9, 2016 22:02:26 GMT -5
They sure are a lot closer than the Jets. Actually they are equal, imo. Not even close. On a team with a JAG quarterback the Chiefs have surrounded him with solid talent, a franchise LT, a Top 3 Tight End, and a Top 5 NFL defense. The Jets have none of those things....probably not even a JAG QB.
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Post by GreenBloodBlitz on Dec 10, 2016 1:41:23 GMT -5
V Ducasse S Hill Geno D Smith K Wilson Q Coples D Milliner J Amaro C Pryor D McDougle. All dogshit wasted picks and we wonder why we suck, our GM's can't draft, we just don't hit enough and that's the primary reason we are in this mess. All of the above is just embarrassing. Give me Dorsey and R McKenzie over Macc all day long. I just threw up looking at that list. I for one can say..that I miss Glad Ducasse....cause he looked like..a thing.?
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Post by GreenBloodBlitz on Dec 10, 2016 1:42:56 GMT -5
Didn't Vlad win king ugly? Lmfao!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 6:14:24 GMT -5
Actually they are equal, imo. Not even close. On a team with a JAG quarterback the Chiefs have surrounded him with solid talent, a franchise LT, a Top 3 Tight End, and a Top 5 NFL defense. The Jets have none of those things....probably not even a JAG QB.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 6:14:49 GMT -5
Not even close. On a team with a JAG quarterback the Chiefs have surrounded him with solid talent, a franchise LT, a Top 3 Tight End, and a Top 5 NFL defense. The Jets have none of those things....probably not even a JAG QB.
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Post by cgjet on Dec 10, 2016 6:14:55 GMT -5
I just threw up looking at that list. I for one can say..that I miss Glad Ducasse....cause he looked like..a thing.? Always voted King Ugly, a training camp award under Rex. Also nicknamed the road grader I believe. Another wasted pick.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 6:15:45 GMT -5
How many Lombardi's does each team have in the last 25 years.
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Post by DDNYjets on Dec 10, 2016 7:24:18 GMT -5
How many Lombardi's does each team have in the last 25 years. So Super Bowl or first overall? Is that how we are to judge?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 8:30:34 GMT -5
SB or nothing...that's what is played for.
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Post by ruby2 on Dec 10, 2016 13:29:27 GMT -5
So we can only compare the Jets to teams that have a super bowl win now?
It doesn't work that way.
I sure as hell would prefer to have a team that is going to compete every game, play competent in all three phases, and win most of the time, as opposed to the dogshit that is the Jets. Your superbowl or nothing argument is pretty shortsighted.
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