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Post by southside on Sept 25, 2017 21:48:51 GMT -5
Breaking News:
Alejandro Villanueva leads the NFL in returned jersey sales.
For such a brave guy he sure did just bitch out. That was weak. You know at the end of the day, these people have no integrity and it really is all about the money. You ever seen such a powerful man, supposed war hero, get bullied like that? Sad.
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Post by bxjetfan on Sept 25, 2017 21:50:19 GMT -5
I'm sure Pat Tillman woulda said something but we killed him. Common dude, it was an accident. Yes, the initial reports were all wrong, lied about and shitty, but they had to say something about the incident. Bad lighting, divided forces, Pat was close in proximity to Afghanis, etc. Truth came out later and the guy who might have pulled the trigger has had a rough go since. Pure accident. "We" didn't kill him. I was just being a dick but if you are killed by friendly fire then "We" killed him in my book. Shit happens in war though.
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Post by 32Green on Sept 25, 2017 21:53:50 GMT -5
Common dude, it was an accident. Yes, the initial reports were all wrong, lied about and shitty, but they had to say something about the incident. Bad lighting, divided forces, Pat was close in proximity to Afghanis, etc. Truth came out later and the guy who might have pulled the trigger has had a rough go since. Pure accident. "We" didn't kill him. I was just being a dick but if you are killed by friendly fire then "We" killed him in my book. Shit happens in war though. Here's a concept; Stop while you're ahead. Oh wait.
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Post by Jets Things on Sept 25, 2017 22:07:32 GMT -5
Common dude, it was an accident. Yes, the initial reports were all wrong, lied about and shitty, but they had to say something about the incident. Bad lighting, divided forces, Pat was close in proximity to Afghanis, etc. Truth came out later and the guy who might have pulled the trigger has had a rough go since. Pure accident. "We" didn't kill him. I was just being a dick but if you are killed by friendly fire then "We" killed him in my book. Shit happens in war though. Exactly, shitty things happen in war. I know four guys killed in the middle east, one was in a tank and blown off a bridge in Fallujah by an IED and drowned. No less horrible than Tillman. Another was Ronnie Winchester from the Naval Academy. Look him up. War is horrible.
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Post by 32Green on Sept 25, 2017 22:13:23 GMT -5
I was just being a dick but if you are killed by friendly fire then "We" killed him in my book. Shit happens in war though. Ronnie Winchester from the Naval Academy. Look him up. War is horrible. RIP, Ronnie.
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Post by bxjetfan on Sept 25, 2017 22:14:35 GMT -5
I was just being a dick but if you are killed by friendly fire then "We" killed him in my book. Shit happens in war though. Here's a concept; Stop while you're ahead. Oh wait. Lighten up Francis.
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Post by bxjetfan on Sept 25, 2017 22:23:27 GMT -5
I was just being a dick but if you are killed by friendly fire then "We" killed him in my book. Shit happens in war though. Exactly, shitty things happen in war. I know four guys killed in the middle east, one was in a tank and blown off a bridge in Fallujah by an IED and drowned. No less horrible than Tillman. Another was Ronnie Winchester from the Naval Academy. Look him up. War is horrible. Sorry about your friends.
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Post by Jets Things on Sept 25, 2017 22:24:39 GMT -5
Ronnie Winchester from the Naval Academy. Look him up. War is horrible. RIP, Ronnie. Assuming you knew him or the family. Just a solid dude all around, taken well before his time.
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Post by 32Green on Sept 26, 2017 0:22:13 GMT -5
Yes and no. He got guilted into that. Seems like the Steelers were pretty torn up on the issue. Big Ben said he couldnt sleep last night because they didnt come out. I will give Villanueva a break bc he is an actual hero. The rest can go fuck themselves. Cant have it both ways. Not a hero anymore For a day did the best thing he ever did in his life Then went all Benedict Arnold on us We dont know what kind of pressures he was under? Neither you, nor I could polish his boots. He was trained to fight, he wasnt trained for this crazy, racist sh*t. And that's what it is. Racist acting out. He's surrounded.
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Post by quantum on Sept 27, 2017 8:02:18 GMT -5
Not a hero anymore For a day did the best thing he ever did in his life Then went all Benedict Arnold on us We dont know what kind of pressures he was under? Neither you, nor I could polish his boots. He was trained to fight, he wasnt trained for this crazy, racist sh*t. And that's what it is. Racist acting out. He's surrounded. meh - he could have said "agree to disagree with my teammates". But he didn't.
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Post by 32Green on Sept 27, 2017 15:06:32 GMT -5
We dont know what kind of pressures he was under? Neither you, nor I could polish his boots. He was trained to fight, he wasnt trained for this crazy, racist sh*t. And that's what it is. Racist acting out. He's surrounded. meh - he could have said "agree to disagree with my teammates". But he didn't. Agree to disagree. Personally, I think he's earned the right for us to with-hold judgement on why he flip-flopped until we learn exactly what circumstances it was done under.
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Post by DDNYjets on Sept 27, 2017 17:38:46 GMT -5
meh - he could have said "agree to disagree with my teammates". But he didn't. Agree to disagree. Personally, I think he's earned the right for us to with-hold judgement on why he flip-flopped until we learn exactly what circumstances it was done under. This is where I am as well. Personally I think he was guilted into apologizing. What a fucking world. Bronze Star feels bad for standing with his hand over his heart for the national anthem. These radical leftist are a cancer.
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Post by JStokes on Sept 27, 2017 18:42:36 GMT -5
Agree to disagree. Personally, I think he's earned the right for us to with-hold judgement on why he flip-flopped until we learn exactly what circumstances it was done under. This is where I am as well. Personally I think he was guilted into apologizing. What a fucking world. Bronze Star feels bad for standing with his hand over his heart for the national anthem. These radical leftist are a cancer. 100%. Actions speak louder than words. He did what he wanted to do then was shamed by his POS coach afterward and felt he had to save face for the team. Look at what he did. Not what he said. _
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Post by 32Green on Sept 27, 2017 21:25:33 GMT -5
This is where I am as well. Personally I think he was guilted into apologizing. What a fucking world. Bronze Star feels bad for standing with his hand over his heart for the national anthem. These radical leftist are a cancer. Look at what he did. Not what he said. _ Good way of putting it.
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Post by quantum on Sept 29, 2017 14:10:49 GMT -5
meh - he could have said "agree to disagree with my teammates". But he didn't. Agree to disagree. Personally, I think he's earned the right for us to with-hold judgement on why he flip-flopped until we learn exactly what circumstances it was done under. sooooo...guy who holds up under Taliban fire MULTIPLE TIMES can't take heat from his millionaire, virtue-signalling BLM teammates? Wanna think about that for a few minutes before answering? I'll wait.
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