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Post by Big L on Jun 14, 2020 11:05:45 GMT -5
So someday when football games are played again there will be hundreds of players kneeling. White and black. Coaches too. People will express their consternation, but will they abandon football? 2016 was the last year this was such a hot topic, although its hotter now. I think the league ratings were pretty bad for them that year (by their standards). Lets not pretend that about 90% of the narrative on this issue hinges on what happens in November. What do you mean? 90% of police brutality will end or continue depending on what political party wins a presidential election? |
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Post by Ff2 on Jun 14, 2020 13:55:31 GMT -5
So someday when football games are played again there will be hundreds of players kneeling. White and black. Coaches too. People will express their consternation, but will they abandon football? 2016 was the last year this was such a hot topic, although its hotter now. I think the league ratings were pretty bad for them that year (by their standards). Lets not pretend that about 90% of the narrative on this issue hinges on what happens in November. Good point. Honestly I’m shocked sports haven’t figured out some way to eliminate the anthem altogether. |
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Post by Ff2 on Jun 14, 2020 13:58:15 GMT -5
2016 was the last year this was such a hot topic, although its hotter now. I think the league ratings were pretty bad for them that year (by their standards). Lets not pretend that about 90% of the narrative on this issue hinges on what happens in November. What do you mean? 90% of police brutality will end or continue depending on what political party wins a presidential election? It may not change one bit. But even just the tone of who ever is elected will have a huge effect on amount of protests. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Jun 14, 2020 15:31:44 GMT -5
What do you mean? 90% of police brutality will end or continue depending on what political party wins a presidential election? It may not change one bit. But even just the tone of who ever is elected will have a huge effect on amount of protests. LOL |
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 14, 2020 16:48:30 GMT -5
2016 was the last year this was such a hot topic, although its hotter now. I think the league ratings were pretty bad for them that year (by their standards). Lets not pretend that about 90% of the narrative on this issue hinges on what happens in November. What do you mean? 90% of police brutality will end or continue depending on what political party wins a presidential election? The narrative (which is determined by the media) will either change of be the same. Nothing is going to change what is actually happening in reality. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 14, 2020 16:51:13 GMT -5
What do you mean? 90% of police brutality will end or continue depending on what political party wins a presidential election? It may not change one bit. But even just the tone of who ever is elected will have a huge effect on amount of protests. Haha. Look up Google trends for "Black Lives Matter". Take a guess which years the spikes in searches are. |
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Post by Ff2 on Jun 14, 2020 18:48:54 GMT -5
It may not change one bit. But even just the tone of who ever is elected will have a huge effect on amount of protests. Haha. Look up Google trends for "Black Lives Matter". Take a guess which years the spikes in searches are. Searches? Not sure the point. Your also assuming simply that skin color of the President alone means change. I believe leadership matters. Of course things can change. Changes can be made that will result in less violence. It takes real leadership. The kind we haven’t seen a long time. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 15, 2020 6:17:14 GMT -5
Haha. Look up Google trends for "Black Lives Matter". Take a guess which years the spikes in searches are. Searches? Not sure the point. Your also assuming simply that skin color of the President alone means change. I believe leadership matters. Of course things can change. Changes can be made that will result in less violence. It takes real leadership. The kind we haven’t seen a long time. Luckily they have experienced men like Mr Sharpton at the tip of the spear. Here he is after he gave Floyd's eulogy. |
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Post by 2foolish on Jun 15, 2020 7:47:19 GMT -5
Sure gonna be interesting when the games start and the vast majority of players kneel. yep.. That's what a video can do.. Ask Ray Rice... |
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Post by Ff2 on Jun 15, 2020 8:11:55 GMT -5
Searches? Not sure the point. Your also assuming simply that skin color of the President alone means change. I believe leadership matters. Of course things can change. Changes can be made that will result in less violence. It takes real leadership. The kind we haven’t seen a long time. Luckily they have experienced men like Mr Sharpton at the tip of the spear. Here he is after he gave Floyd's eulogy. You have to stop think of your fellow Americans as “they”. The solution to this is for everyone one of us to stop the thinking that we need to pick a side. Of course Sharpton isn’t the leader we need. That’s too lazy, I expect way more from you. I guess I could post a picture of a horrible conservative, but what’s the point? You know as well as I there are opportunists on both sides, We need leaders who aren’t on a “side.” |
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Post by Ff2 on Jun 15, 2020 8:14:06 GMT -5
Sure gonna be interesting when the games start and the vast majority of players kneel. yep.. That's what a video can do.. Ask Ray Rice... What’s your point? Blacks are bad too? Again this tit for tat does nothing. Turns this all into an online game. It’s too important for all of us to be taking sides. |
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Post by tkasper01 on Jun 15, 2020 9:38:35 GMT -5
yep.. That's what a video can do.. Ask Ray Rice... What’s your point? Blacks are bad too? Again this tit for tat does nothing. Turns this all into an online game. It’s too important for all of us to be taking sides. I remember seeing something early on in the GF rioting. I think it was a pro athlete but it may have been a entertainer as well. Black. Said, and I paraphrase, "black supremacy is as big as issue as White supremacy. You cannot swap one for the other. We have to work it out together". And we do. But we need to some how get the agitators, on both sides, out of the equation. Not certain how to do that. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 15, 2020 10:34:30 GMT -5
What’s your point? Blacks are bad too? Again this tit for tat does nothing. Turns this all into an online game. It’s too important for all of us to be taking sides. I remember seeing something early on in the GF rioting. I think it was a pro athlete but it may have been a entertainer as well. Black. Said, and I paraphrase, "black supremacy is as big as issue as White supremacy. You cannot swap one for the other. We have to work it out together". And we do. But we need to some how get the agitators, on both sides, out of the equation. Not certain how to do that. That was Terry Crews. And he got bludgeoned on social media for it. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 15, 2020 10:40:30 GMT -5
Luckily they have experienced men like Mr Sharpton at the tip of the spear. Here he is after he gave Floyd's eulogy. You have to stop think of your fellow Americans as “they”. The solution to this is for everyone one of us to stop the thinking that we need to pick a side. Of course Sharpton isn’t the leader we need. That’s too lazy, I expect way more from you. I guess I could post a picture of a horrible conservative, but what’s the point? You know as well as I there are opportunists on both sides, We need leaders who aren’t on a “side.” See thats the thing. In the very beginning of this there wasnt taking sides. I have never seen more unanimous support for the issue and condemnation of what the police did. There was a "win" to be had for all. Progress to be made. All we had to do was take yes for an answer. Then came the excuses for rioting and anarchy. Then came the charlatans. And then it became about Trump. And now we are back on the hamster wheel. It will die down after the election. Then it will be back in 2024. It is all politics now. No sense in even denying it anymore. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 15, 2020 10:44:07 GMT -5
Even the protests and their possible effect on coronavirus is politics.
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