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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 1, 2020 20:00:10 GMT -5
Toxicology came back. Fentanyl and meth. he didn’t deserve to nor should he have died. the cop was dead wrong. I am in complete agreement. I haven't spoken to a single person, including LEOs, who doesnt think the cop should be charged. I am now thinking about how the details will effect the criminal trial. |
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Post by southparkcpa on Jun 1, 2020 20:04:50 GMT -5
I can’t find the legislation that really made it clear that LE need be careful with black people? police brutality legislation? A NY magazine article by a more than likely free lance writer is not prima fascia evidence. I do remember OBAMA judging the professor in Boston, Travon Martin and Michael Brown without facts. I, after voting for Obama the first time, was gravely disappointed at his inability to address this issue. I think you and I want the same thing.... we see the solution differently. Yes I recall how easy it was for Obama to get legislation passed with Mitch’s wonderful cooperation. Are you pleased with Trumps ability to address the issue? i don’t think government can help, no legislation will cure a 21 year old girl from having 3 kids with different fathers. those children grow up in a world that seems impossible.... because it is. Obama can’t fix it. California, has NO obstacles and it can’t fix it. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 1, 2020 20:09:26 GMT -5
I can’t find the legislation that really made it clear that LE need be careful with black people? police brutality legislation? A NY magazine article by a more than likely free lance writer is not prima fascia evidence. I do remember OBAMA judging the professor in Boston, Travon Martin and Michael Brown without facts. I, after voting for Obama the first time, was gravely disappointed at his inability to address this issue. I think you and I want the same thing.... we see the solution differently. Yes I recall how easy it was for Obama to get legislation passed with Mitch’s wonderful cooperation. Are you pleased with Trumps ability to address the issue? Trump isnt going to provide many warm fuzzy moments. But Trump got criminal justice reform passed. 8 years of Obama/Holder/Lynch didnt produce as much fruit. I think that also plays into the frustration/desperation. 2008 was supposed to be the beginning of something great. Very little came of it. And if they couldnt deliver for them then who can? |
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Post by jay57 on Jun 1, 2020 20:13:31 GMT -5
So, I was watching some of the riot footage and I thought ... What if you owned one of the businesses near the rioting. And what if CODIV-19 had put you on the verge of bankruptcy. And what if you had the type of insurance policy where you would do pretty well (especially in comparison to bankruptcy) if your building was ransacked and burned to the ground. I can't say if this actually happened over the weekend, but I'd be shocked if the thought didn't go through some of the small business owners' minds. Good point! |
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Post by 32Green on Jun 1, 2020 21:29:15 GMT -5
Doesn’t matter. They don’t want justice. thy wanted a black candidate, got Jesse, wanted court representation, got Thomas, wanted a president, got OBAMA. any changes? this cop was bad and should go to jail as should a few every year I imagine..... this is so much bigger. you and. Are NOT responsible for 55 years of out of wedlock children dropping out of school at 15 and wondering why they are discriminated against. I unfortunately have dusted off my Glock and will carry it on me the next few weeks. The actual protesters want to not be killed by bad cops. Who could disagree with that? But now the actual protesters have been co-opted by ANTIFA and mercenary opportunists. And the "bad" cops here were fired/arrested and not many disagree with that. There are millions of interactions with cops/civilians every year and there are no stats, none, that support that this type of thing is common or endemic in LE. However, it is the type of thing the MSM, politicians and racial arsonists blow out of proportion in support of their agendas, causing everything we are seeing now. It's amazing to me how many people dont realize they are being manipulated by the media/opportunists. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Jun 1, 2020 21:39:05 GMT -5
The actual protesters want to not be killed by bad cops. Who could disagree with that? But now the actual protesters have been co-opted by ANTIFA and mercenary opportunists. And the "bad" cops here were fired/arrested and not many disagree with that. There are millions of interactions with cops/civilians every year and there are no stats, none, that support that this type of thing is common or endemic in LE. However, it is the type of thing the MSM, politicians and racial arsonists blow out of proportion in support of their agendas, causing everything we are seeing now. It's amazing to me how many people dont realize they are being manipulated by the media/opportunists. The media you say? |
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Post by 32Green on Jun 1, 2020 21:43:41 GMT -5
Who could disagree with that? But now the actual protesters have been co-opted by ANTIFA and mercenary opportunists. And the "bad" cops here were fired/arrested and not many disagree with that. There are millions of interactions with cops/civilians every year and there are no stats, none, that support that this type of thing is common or endemic in LE. However, it is the type of thing the MSM, politicians and racial arsonists blow out of proportion in support of their agendas, causing everything we are seeing now. It's amazing to me how many people dont realize they are being manipulated by the media/opportunists. The media you say? Amazing. And the fucking sheeple sit in their armchairs, gape-jawed... manipulated by these drones. |
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Post by 32Green on Jun 1, 2020 21:52:28 GMT -5
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Post by bxjetfan on Jun 1, 2020 21:54:49 GMT -5
I read a story that 45 people were rendered unconscious since 2015 2016 by this move. So Minneapolis tracked this stat and did nothing to review training and prohibit its practice. I also read this was taught at the Police Academy.
Who knows what's true anymore but if those two things are I could see that being a problem. Having an Antifa lover overseeing the case doesn't help.
I also heard bail was set at 500K but he's still in jail. If he can't make it he might opt for a fast trial. I would assume he gets a change of venue too.
I hate being a cynical fuck but I could see this being maneuvered for him beating this right before the election.
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Post by 32Green on Jun 1, 2020 22:08:08 GMT -5
I read a story that 45 people were rendered unconscious since 2015 2016 by this move. So Minneapolis tracked this stat and did nothing to review training and prohibit its practice. I also read this was taught at the Police Academy. Who knows what's true anymore but if those two things are I could see that being a problem. Having an Antifa lover overseeing the case doesn't help. I also heard bail was set at 500K but he's still in jail. If he can't make it he might opt for a fast trial. I would assume he gets a change of venue too. I hate being a cynical fuck but I could see this being maneuvered for him beating this right before the election. They need reform. Cant argue that. So many different depts with so many different rules. Doesnt change the fact that there is no nationwide racist plot against minorities. The stats are out there. The fact that this particular "victim" was also high on meth and fentenyl, plus the the original ME's report will certainly turn this into a shit-show trial. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Jun 1, 2020 22:09:30 GMT -5
This is what bugs me. If you want the biggest bang for your buck you'd focus on Chicago or Delaware. But if you really want to change police brutality I mean if that's your thing, you would think you'd try to build a coalition to bring change about. Remember during Ferguson someone tried to get all lives matter off the ground? That baby died in the crib. It justs seems like this is more political then organic. I'm not saying it isn't a legit issue. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Jun 1, 2020 22:12:40 GMT -5
I read a story that 45 people were rendered unconscious since 2015 2016 by this move. So Minneapolis tracked this stat and did nothing to review training and prohibit its practice. I also read this was taught at the Police Academy. Who knows what's true anymore but if those two things are I could see that being a problem. Having an Antifa lover overseeing the case doesn't help. I also heard bail was set at 500K but he's still in jail. If he can't make it he might opt for a fast trial. I would assume he gets a change of venue too. I hate being a cynical fuck but I could see this being maneuvered for him beating this right before the election. They need reform. Cant argue that. So many different depts with so many different rules. Doesnt change the fact that there is no nationwide racist plot against minorities. The stats are out there. The fact that this particular "victim" was also high on meth and fentenyl, plus the the original ME's report will certainly turn this into a shit-show trial. Yeah, i forgot about the fentanyl. I saw a talking head on CNN or MSNBC trying to downplay it. Like a pound of that shit will kill a city. |
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Post by Jets Things on Jun 1, 2020 22:14:18 GMT -5
I read a story that 45 people were rendered unconscious since 2015 2016 by this move. So Minneapolis tracked this stat and did nothing to review training and prohibit its practice. I also read this was taught at the Police Academy. Who knows what's true anymore but if those two things are I could see that being a problem. Having an Antifa lover overseeing the case doesn't help. I also heard bail was set at 500K but he's still in jail. If he can't make it he might opt for a fast trial. I would assume he gets a change of venue too. I hate being a cynical fuck but I could see this being maneuvered for him beating this right before the election. They need reform. Cant argue that. So many different depts with so many different rules. Doesnt change the fact that there is no nationwide racist plot against minorities. The stats are out there. The fact that this particular "victim" was also high on meth and fentenyl, plus the the original ME's report will certainly turn this into a shit-show trial. I read that fentanyl and meth were found in his system. I'm not a forensic pathologist and have no idea of the shelf life for either, but can it be confirmed he was out of his mind at the time he was killed? Also read he was suffering a heart attack at the time he was being subdued. |
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Post by 32Green on Jun 1, 2020 22:16:24 GMT -5
This is what bugs me. If you want the biggest bang for your buck you'd focus on Chicago or Delaware. But if you really want to change police brutality I mean if that's your thing, you would think you'd try to build a coalition to bring change about. Remember during Ferguson someone tried to get all lives matter off the ground? That baby died in the crib. It justs seems like this is more political then organic. I'm not saying it isn't a legit issue. There are millions of cops. All are human. Many are dicks and unfit. Deal with them as we encounter them. Dont demonize all when one fucks up. Seems to work when we consider other individual perps of various crimes. We may see a member of a particular ethnic group do something to another...but we take special pains to not generalize. That is fine. Lets be fair. But fair wouldnt benefit some politically. |
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Post by Jets Things on Jun 1, 2020 22:16:57 GMT -5
I hate being a cynical fuck but I could see this being maneuvered for him beating this right before the election. You're not cynical, you're a realist. Nothing wrong with seeing through the bullshit and calling it like it is. Fuck those willfully wearing blinders. |
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