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Post by westcoastoffensive on Jun 2, 2020 3:30:29 GMT -5
So, I was watching some of the riot footage and I thought ... What if you owned one of the businesses near the rioting. And what if CODIV-19 had put you on the verge of bankruptcy. And what if you had the type of insurance policy where you would do pretty well (especially in comparison to bankruptcy) if your building was ransacked and burned to the ground. I can't say if this actually happened over the weekend, but I'd be shocked if the thought didn't go through some of the small business owners' minds. most insurance doesnt cover rioting/looting/arson They know you have frontage; asking how far will your business sit from the street. So, maybe a bond posted for common area coverage; usually the mall owner is the general on that. So nice try Falling Down
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Post by tkasper01 on Jun 2, 2020 7:18:49 GMT -5
This is what bugs me. If you want the biggest bang for your buck you'd focus on Chicago or Delaware. But if you really want to change police brutality I mean if that's your thing, you would think you'd try to build a coalition to bring change about. Remember during Ferguson someone tried to get all lives matter off the ground? That baby died in the crib. It justs seems like this is more political then organic. I'm not saying it isn't a legit issue. There are millions of cops. All are human. Many are dicks and unfit. Deal with them as we encounter them. Dont demonize all when one fucks up. Seems to work when we consider other individual perps of various crimes. We may see a member of a particular ethnic group do something to another...but we take special pains to not generalize. That is fine. Lets be fair. But fair wouldnt benefit some politically. Cops don't deal with cops though. They reassign and cover for them. How many times have you seen it in your 20 year career? This cop should have been dealt with years ago. But between unions and the brotherhood, they remain, to harm the rep's of all the good cops doing a shitty job for too little money.
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Post by cgjet on Jun 2, 2020 10:09:01 GMT -5
Fucking anarchists/communists/ANTIFA got downtown Naperville last night. Whoever has Rag's contact should check in and see if he and his family are well. Evidently the chicken shit mayor welcomed them as they bussed in from Chicago and knelt with them. Then they proceeded to ransack the business district while the mayor held the copes back.
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Post by Hotman on Jun 2, 2020 10:55:05 GMT -5
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Post by 32Green on Jun 2, 2020 10:57:14 GMT -5
There are millions of cops. All are human. Many are dicks and unfit. Deal with them as we encounter them. Dont demonize all when one fucks up. Seems to work when we consider other individual perps of various crimes. We may see a member of a particular ethnic group do something to another...but we take special pains to not generalize. That is fine. Lets be fair. But fair wouldnt benefit some politically. Cops don't deal with cops though. They reassign and cover for them. How many times have you seen it in your 20 year career? This cop should have been dealt with years ago. But between unions and the brotherhood, they remain, to harm the rep's of all the good cops doing a shitty job for too little money. I've seen plenty of cops disciplined and fired, you dont hear about it. Problem is there are a ton of bullsh*t complaints that have no merit and its often difficult to differentiate..so yes the cops get the benefit of the doubt, however distasteful that seems. Here in NYC they demanded that the cops wear body cams. Guess what happened? The cams began to reveal inconconvenient truths about how some citizens behave when dealing with cops and then they were considered an invasion of privacy by many of the same folks who demanded the cops wear them. My problem is that alot of this stuff we are seeing is fueled by false narratives spread by the MSM, racial arsonists and politicians. It has become "the truth" that there is an endemic race-base brutality problem nation wide. That narrative was pushed by the last administration and set this country back decades. If I based my opinions simply on the incidents that the media cherry pics to support this narrative, I would believe it too. I'm astonished how much blatantly false nonsense is embraced by some pretty smart people who think the media and charismatic politicians are always on the level. If you are looking for evidence this false narrative is bullshit...here is a quick, succinct discussion by Heather McDonald, whom I always found to be fair and informed in her views; www.nationalreview.com/2019/07/white-cops-dont-commit-more-shootings/And again, I'm not defending the cop or his dept. here. The fact that they allowed neck compressions to begin with is disturbing. And to your point, maybe their system of weeding out bad cops might be weak ( I dont know anything about his prior record or how complaints were handled). Fix it, and stop pretending this is the norm. But to create a moral equivelency between what happened there, and what we are seeing in the streets now, is insanity.
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Post by shakin on Jun 2, 2020 11:01:28 GMT -5
Fucking anarchists/communists/ANTIFA got downtown Naperville last night. Whoever has Rag's contact should check in and see if he and his family are well. Evidently the chicken shit mayor welcomed them as they bussed in from Chicago and knelt with them. Then they proceeded to ransack the business district while the mayor held the copes back. is anyone honestly worried about ragu being okay during this? by that i mean the guy is totally FINE. i lol at what lies in store for anyone fucking with him or his
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Post by Hotman on Jun 2, 2020 11:13:04 GMT -5
Fucking anarchists/communists/ANTIFA got downtown Naperville last night. Whoever has Rag's contact should check in and see if he and his family are well. Evidently the chicken shit mayor welcomed them as they bussed in from Chicago and knelt with them. Then they proceeded to ransack the business district while the mayor held the copes back. is anyone honestly worried about ragu being okay during this? by that i mean the guy is totally FINE. i lol at what lies in store for anyone fucking with him or his He'd be wearing a necklace of antifa soy teeth if those idiots tried shit lol But they DO seem pretty foolish about picking their battles. Even if the other side hasn't even begun (and seems to be trying everything not) to hit back yet.
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Post by bxjetfan on Jun 2, 2020 11:38:55 GMT -5
Cops don't deal with cops though. They reassign and cover for them. How many times have you seen it in your 20 year career? This cop should have been dealt with years ago. But between unions and the brotherhood, they remain, to harm the rep's of all the good cops doing a shitty job for too little money. I've seen plenty of cops disciplined and fired, you dont hear about it. Problem is there are a ton of bullsh*t complaints that have no merit and its often difficult to differentiate..so yes the cops get the benefit of the doubt, however distasteful that seems. Here in NYC they demanded that the cops wear body cams. Guess what happened? The cams began to reveal inconconvenient truths about how some citizens behave when dealing with cops and then they were considered an invasion of privacy by many of the same folks who demanded the cops wear them. My problem is that alot of this stuff we are seeing is fueled by false narratives spread by the MSM, racial arsonists and politicians. It has become "the truth" that there is an endemic race-base brutality problem nation wide. That narrative was pushed by the last administration and set this country back decades. If I based my opinions simply on the incidents that the media cherry pics to support this narrative, I would believe it too. I'm astonished how much blatantly false nonsense is embraced by some pretty smart people who think the media and charismatic politicians are always on the level. If you are looking for evidence this false narrative is bullshit...here is a quick, succinct discussion by Heather McDonald, whom I always found to be fair and informed in her views; www.nationalreview.com/2019/07/white-cops-dont-commit-more-shootings/And again, I'm not defending the cop or his dept. here. The fact that they allowed neck compressions to begin with is disturbing. And to your point, maybe their system of weeding out bad cops might be weak ( I dont know anything about his prior record or how complaints were handled). Fix it, and stop pretending this is the norm. But to create a moral equivelency between what happened there, and what we are seeing in the streets now, is insanity. Racial arsonists. I like it.
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Post by Raoul Duke on Jun 2, 2020 11:53:29 GMT -5
Sad to see you guys go through this shit.
stay safe dickheads
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Post by shakin on Jun 2, 2020 12:39:31 GMT -5
is anyone honestly worried about ragu being okay during this? by that i mean the guy is totally FINE. i lol at what lies in store for anyone fucking with him or his He'd be wearing a necklace of antifa soy teeth if those idiots tried shit lol But they DO seem pretty foolish about picking their battles. Even if the other side hasn't even begun (and seems to be trying everything not) to hit back yet. i'm pretty sure ragu has a tattoo (possibly tramp stamp) that says "now youse can't leave" BOOM CRACK BANG OW OOF CRACK THUD
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Post by shakin on Jun 2, 2020 12:55:18 GMT -5
but muh it's not political
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Post by shakin on Jun 2, 2020 13:01:12 GMT -5
so what's going on on Long Island? any bullshit happening with 'protestors'?
not a lot near me in CT, they closed down a highway in bridgeport a couple days ago but so far that's it
hearing conflicting stories about Long Island
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Post by Jets Things on Jun 2, 2020 13:09:30 GMT -5
so what's going on on Long Island? any bullshit happening with 'protestors'? not a lot near me in CT, they closed down a highway in bridgeport a couple days ago but so far that's it hearing conflicting stories about Long Island Peaceful protest last night in Mineola. Rumors of looting groups invading Roosevelt Field, huge police presence. Reddit group said rioting out in Shirley.
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Post by shakin on Jun 2, 2020 13:16:44 GMT -5
so what's going on on Long Island? any bullshit happening with 'protestors'? not a lot near me in CT, they closed down a highway in bridgeport a couple days ago but so far that's it hearing conflicting stories about Long Island Peaceful protest last night in Mineola. Rumors of looting groups invading Roosevelt Field, huge police presence. Reddit group said rioting out in Shirley. i think they kinda know long islanders are packing, unike the sjw willows in nyc what they also need to understand is that guys like me and frankly most guys i know willingly dress head to toe in camo, climb 30 feet up a tree and freeze our asses off for 12 hours just waiting for the opportunity to kill something. so either way, get those sights sighted in and crack a beer
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Post by 32Green on Jun 2, 2020 13:40:01 GMT -5
Peaceful protest last night in Mineola. Rumors of looting groups invading Roosevelt Field, huge police presence. Reddit group said rioting out in Shirley. i think they kinda know long islanders are packing, unike the sjw willows in nyc what they also need to understand is that guys like me and frankly most guys i know willingly dress head to toe in camo, climb 30 feet up a tree and freeze our asses off for 12 hours just waiting for the opportunity to kill something. so either way, get those sights sighted in and crack a beer Has been quiet by me, so far but the menace is in the air. Have all my mags loaded and dusted off the Mossberg (which I bought when the Sandy looting began) and my old bullet proof vest. Also, been sleeping on the couch near the front door. If this continues, I will probably begin to sleep during the day and stay up all night. My neighbor, a Russian businessman, approached me this morning and asked me if I thought he would have any problems buying shotgun shells. His kid gave him a shotgun when this shit started. They know better than anyone how this mob shit spirals. On the bright side, my town has its own cops so we are better off than neighboring towns who have to rely on Nassau County P.D. who are really spread thin.
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