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Post by Ff2 on Aug 31, 2021 9:45:56 GMT -5
I guess one man's sarcasm is another's disrespect of a POW. McCain was a douche bag and way too liberal for my taste and he turned his POW status into a shield way too often. Was Trump's comment wrong and off color? IMO yes. That being said, if I was in politics and someone I knew, in my party, was pushing known lies about me on the national stage I might make a biting remark or 2 myself. Of course, we always forgive "our guy." Thats how this works.
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Post by Ff2 on Aug 31, 2021 9:47:08 GMT -5
Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed. But hey. Biden looked at his watch. I hope the Taliban airs the executions of the Americans left behind. Nice.
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 31, 2021 9:49:58 GMT -5
I guess one man's sarcasm is another's disrespect of a POW. McCain was a garbage bag, POW or not. McCain and Trumps feud was bitter and personal. Went back many years. McCain also perpetuated the Trump/Russia hoax. RIHSB.
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 31, 2021 9:50:28 GMT -5
I hope the Taliban airs the executions of the Americans left behind. Nice. Gotta let those 81 million see what they voted for. America is back!!! The adults are in charge.
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Post by Ff2 on Aug 31, 2021 9:50:58 GMT -5
Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed. But hey. Biden looked at his watch. This has been debunked. Of of course, anything anti-Trump is never true. He was perfect. He always listed to the secret service too. Always. Like his little Covid limo drive.
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Post by Ff2 on Aug 31, 2021 9:52:17 GMT -5
Gotta let those 81 million see what they voted for. America is back!!! The adults are in charge. I personally hope Americans aren't executed. But thats just me.
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 31, 2021 9:52:19 GMT -5
Of of course, anything anti-Trump is never true. He was perfect. He always listed to the secret service too. Always. Like his little Covid limo drive. Of all the bombshells that were proven false during the Trump years, why do you think they only went in one direction?
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 31, 2021 9:54:26 GMT -5
Gotta let those 81 million see what they voted for. America is back!!! The adults are in charge. I personally hope Americans aren't executed. But thats just me. I hope so to. I pray that they are able to find safety. But we also know the reality of the situation. And our government just left hundreds of Americans to die in a foreign hostile country. But at least we are resettling thousands of refugees. I am sure the cultural enrichment will benefit whatever towns they are sent to.
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Post by Trades on Aug 31, 2021 9:55:10 GMT -5
How long until we start sending them aid? Ddin't we already between pallets of cash and weapons
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 31, 2021 9:55:16 GMT -5
We gave them a fucking kill list.
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Post by Ff2 on Aug 31, 2021 9:56:33 GMT -5
I personally hope Americans aren't executed. But thats just me. I hope so to. I pray that they are able to find safety. But we also know the reality of the situation. And our government just left hundreds of Americans to die in a foreign hostile country. But at least we are resettling thousands of refugees. I am sure the cultural enrichment will benefit whatever towns they are sent to. Everyone loves the Afghan people, its horrible we've abandoned them! (crocodile tears) Put them in our town? Ew gross.
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 31, 2021 9:57:49 GMT -5
How long until we start sending them aid? Ddin't we already between pallets of cash and weapons Haha. Did you see the fact check they did today about the $80 billion in weapons? No it wasnt $80 billion, it was only $65 billion.
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 31, 2021 10:01:23 GMT -5
I hope so to. I pray that they are able to find safety. But we also know the reality of the situation. And our government just left hundreds of Americans to die in a foreign hostile country. But at least we are resettling thousands of refugees. I am sure the cultural enrichment will benefit whatever towns they are sent to. Everyone loves the Afghan people, its horrible we've abandoned them! (crocodile tears) Put them in our town? Ew gross. I dont pretend for a second I want them. I feel terrible for them but I have come to accept that democracy doesnt work everywhere. It barely works here. And seeing what has happened in Europe over the past 6 years with their migrant programs gives me little confidence the cultures are compatible. But white guilt is very strong so here we are.
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Post by Trades on Aug 31, 2021 10:11:59 GMT -5
Everyone loves the Afghan people, its horrible we've abandoned them! (crocodile tears) Put them in our town? Ew gross. I dont pretend for a second I want them. I feel terrible for them but I have come to accept that democracy doesnt work everywhere. It barely works here. And seeing what has happened in Europe over the past 6 years with their migrant programs gives me little confidence the cultures are compatible. But white guilt is very strong so here we are. As Andrew Wilkow often says, "If you bring there, here, then here, becomes there". Nation building and forcing American values is impossible. Most people, even here, aren't willing to pay for their freedom. Most people want to be told what to do, what they can do and follow orders. The founding fathers were a rare breed.
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Post by Ff2 on Aug 31, 2021 10:12:43 GMT -5
Everyone loves the Afghan people, its horrible we've abandoned them! (crocodile tears) Put them in our town? Ew gross. I dont pretend for a second I want them. I feel terrible for them but I have come to accept that democracy doesnt work everywhere. It barely works here. And seeing what has happened in Europe over the past 6 years with their migrant programs gives me little confidence the cultures are compatible. But white guilt is very strong so here we are. Did you want to protect them? Lets be honest, all this has zero to do with them. Or the Taliban. Or $$$ weapons. It's the American psyche that can't handle the fact that we lost. We hate losing and we're on a bad streak. Most Americans couldn't find Afghanistan on a map and have no idea why we went in there to start. It's the simple fact that we got beat by a bunch of towel heads. And we love a scape goat. 20 years it went on but simpletons pin it on Biden because thats easy. We lost over 7,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq over 20 years. Over 30,177 service members and veterans of the post-9/11 wars have committed suicide. And we do very little to help them. We honor our dead for about 2 weeks then move open to the next big story. As a nation we don't care. We really dont. We just wan to "win." We're never gonna learn.
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