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Post by Big L on Aug 17, 2021 16:56:56 GMT -5
Why would that be important? Such incompetence. This one kills me. That Blackhawk isn’t airworthy with that big hole in the nose. 166 of those ain’t worth a shit. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Aug 17, 2021 18:52:12 GMT -5
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Post by bxjetfan on Aug 17, 2021 21:29:56 GMT -5
Trump was on hannity tonight. He told a Taliban leader if one American died during the phased withdrawal he would bomb his village. Lots of good stuff, the interview hasn't posted on Fox yet. He really highlighted all of Bidens failures. Worth a watch if you see it posted.
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Post by Trades on Aug 18, 2021 6:52:19 GMT -5
I think the initial war was won in the first week. Then mission creep came in along with the desire to make cavemen understand and want democracy. That mission was lost. Which goes with military force alone was never going to work. And although some of them are literal "cavemen," a big problem they have there is infrastructure, connecting provinces due to the terrain, and establishing a national identity. The Afghan borders were made by the British, and many Afghans care far more about tribal identity than "Afghan" identity. If you look it up, you'll see polls in which I think it was 90% of Afghan men had never even heard of the 9/11 attacks. They live in the desert and mountains dawg, far from each other, in tribes. So the idea that the US would come in, drop bombs, and unite/democratize the country in the first place is just laughable. But hey, it got a lot of dems and repubs rich so yay for that. Also I don't know if by cavemen you think they're stupid. Because I dont think idiots could fend off the entire Western Hemisphere, not to mention the soviets  By cavemen I mean most of them are lucky to live in the conditions considered civilized in 600 AD and I am being generous. I agree that there was no chance to get them to be a western society. As for your issues unifying tribes over large stretches of bad terrain the Romans, English, Chinese, Greeks, Ottomans and Huns disagree. |
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Post by Ff2 on Aug 18, 2021 9:23:32 GMT -5
He told a Taliban leader if one American died during the phased withdrawal he would bomb his village.  |
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Post by Raoul Duke on Aug 18, 2021 9:35:51 GMT -5
That Blackhawk isn’t airworthy with that big hole in the nose. 166 of those ain’t worth a shit. Can't trick Big L with anything that flies! |
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Post by nyjetsfan11 on Aug 18, 2021 9:56:02 GMT -5
Which goes with military force alone was never going to work. And although some of them are literal "cavemen," a big problem they have there is infrastructure, connecting provinces due to the terrain, and establishing a national identity. The Afghan borders were made by the British, and many Afghans care far more about tribal identity than "Afghan" identity. If you look it up, you'll see polls in which I think it was 90% of Afghan men had never even heard of the 9/11 attacks. They live in the desert and mountains dawg, far from each other, in tribes. So the idea that the US would come in, drop bombs, and unite/democratize the country in the first place is just laughable. But hey, it got a lot of dems and repubs rich so yay for that. Also I don't know if by cavemen you think they're stupid. Because I dont think idiots could fend off the entire Western Hemisphere, not to mention the soviets By cavemen I mean most of them are lucky to live in the conditions considered civilized in 600 AD and I am being generous. I agree that there was no chance to get them to be a western society. As for your issues unifying tribes over large stretches of bad terrain the Romans, English, Chinese, Greeks, Ottomans and Huns disagree. Well I mention that as one of the forces against the goal of unification. All the nations you mentioned still exist as unified under a national identity currently. Those empires had strong national identity as a source to expand their empire. The Afghans don't even have that. We did what those empires were doing: control resources, use force, try to check the activity of the citizenry, but we failed at unifying them under a national identity. My point was that a good (or at least one) reason for that is the fact that they are in tribes which usurp national identity, and have almost no roads connecting said tribes. I didn't say it wasn't possible, only that it was a relatively major factor, and whatever methods we used, we failed miserably to the tune of 20 years, trillions of dollars, and hundreds of thousands of lives lost. And that's being generous assuming our goal in the first place was to do that. |
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Post by Big L on Aug 18, 2021 9:56:05 GMT -5
That Blackhawk isn’t airworthy with that big hole in the nose. 166 of those ain’t worth a shit. Can't trick Big L with anything that flies! And not fer nuthin, flying a helicopter is really fucking hard, and requires years of training. You don’t just jump off your camel and hop in and fly away. |
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Post by Ff2 on Aug 18, 2021 9:59:28 GMT -5
Can't trick Big L with anything that flies! And not fer nuthin, flying a helicopter is really fucking hard, and requires years of training. You don’t just jump off your camel and hop in and fly away. Pffffffft. They got internet? www.wikihow.com/Fly-a-Helicopter |
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Post by Big L on Aug 18, 2021 10:01:52 GMT -5
And not fer nuthin, flying a helicopter is really fucking hard, and requires years of training. You don’t just jump off your camel and hop in and fly away. Pffffffft. They got internet? www.wikihow.com/Fly-a-HelicopterI stand corrected. |
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Post by nyjetsfan11 on Aug 18, 2021 10:03:47 GMT -5
He told a Taliban leader if one American died during the phased withdrawal he would bomb his village. Listen chump, don't you know Trump is the alpha dog? He'd never fwejfqnwef or ejgneijge. If Trump was still president the Taliban would be our personal shoe shiners by now!!! It amazes me how many men will ride trumps dick on an adventure through a completely hypothetical universe of what ifs. It's a never ending story where anytime anything happens from now until the end, we'll hear "WeLL TrUmP wOuLd have been so alpha bro you wouldn't even believe it." just let it go guys, he's not the president, get off the mans peepee and move on. Copium to the max. |
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Post by Trades on Aug 18, 2021 10:10:47 GMT -5
Listen chump, don't you know Trump is the alpha dog? He'd never fwejfqnwef or ejgneijge. If Trump was still president the Taliban would be our personal shoe shiners by now!!! It amazes me how many men will ride trumps dick on an adventure through a completely hypothetical universe of what ifs. It's a never ending story where anytime anything happens from now until the end, we'll hear "WeLL TrUmP wOuLd have been so alpha bro you wouldn't even believe it." just let it go guys, he's not the president, get off the mans peepee and move on. Copium to the max. Biden is barely the president either and he probably doesn't realize he holds the title. Where does that leave us? |
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Post by Trades on Aug 18, 2021 10:36:00 GMT -5
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Post by Trades on Aug 18, 2021 10:39:07 GMT -5
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Post by nyjetsfan11 on Aug 18, 2021 10:45:58 GMT -5
Listen chump, don't you know Trump is the alpha dog? He'd never fwejfqnwef or ejgneijge. If Trump was still president the Taliban would be our personal shoe shiners by now!!! It amazes me how many men will ride trumps dick on an adventure through a completely hypothetical universe of what ifs. It's a never ending story where anytime anything happens from now until the end, we'll hear "WeLL TrUmP wOuLd have been so alpha bro you wouldn't even believe it." just let it go guys, he's not the president, get off the mans peepee and move on. Copium to the max. Biden is barely the president either and he probably doesn't realize he holds the title. Where does that leave us? I mean if you think the solution is to wax poetic of a reality that only exists in your imagination, then that's fine. People deal with shitty reality in many different ways. I just think inventing a hypothetical trump reaction to everything doesn't do anything except generate imaginative anger for the individual engaging in that. And it leaves us in a reality in which Biden for better or worse is the president, and we can either accept his decisions, criticize them as we may, or take action. |
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