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Post by CTJetsFanII on Mar 20, 2015 6:53:01 GMT -5
Sounds like his pro-day was so-so. Could be a result of him still not being 100% recovered from his injury or he just didn't test well. Mayock said he's one of those kids where you need to rely on what you see on tape....and his tape is really good. Do we know if he ever played standing up or did much dropping into coverage? |
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Post by Lithfan on Mar 20, 2015 7:40:24 GMT -5
Sounds like his pro-day was so-so. Could be a result of him still not being 100% recovered from his injury or he just didn't test well. Mayock said he's one of those kids where you need to rely on what you see on tape....and his tape is really good. Do we know if he ever played standing up or did much dropping into coverage? Seems like some mixed reviews on his pro day -- seen some that were very positive and others that killed him. |
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Post by Paradis on Mar 20, 2015 9:05:33 GMT -5
sigh. nothing comes easy to us.
--@ctjets, i didn't he standing up a ton, always hands in the dirt. There's a few plays where he drops back, covers the tailback, that kind of thing. I think he's capable of doing whatever you tell that guy his job is.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Mar 20, 2015 10:09:20 GMT -5
sigh. nothing comes easy to us. --@ctjets, i didn't he standing up a ton, always hands in the dirt. There's a few plays where he drops back, covers the tailback, that kind of thing. I think he's capable of doing whatever you tell that guy his job is. If you look at the free agent signings thus far and then you look at how many times Bowles used nickel and dime packages last year (used dime package the most of any DC), I think the priority of any edge rusher drafted will be, can they get to the QB from a 3 point stance. I'm not sure that they are looking for a typical tweener 3-4 OLB type, but rather a pure off the edge pass rusher. Covering RBs and playing standing up isn't going to be a huge priorty since IMO they will be playing A LOT of 4 man fronts. |
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Post by Paradis on Mar 20, 2015 10:18:15 GMT -5
sigh. nothing comes easy to us. --@ctjets, i didn't he standing up a ton, always hands in the dirt. There's a few plays where he drops back, covers the tailback, that kind of thing. I think he's capable of doing whatever you tell that guy his job is. If you look at the free agent signings thus far and then you look at how many times Bowles used nickel and dime packages last year (used dime package the most of any DC), I think the priority of any edge rusher drafted will be, can they get to the QB from a 3 point stance. I'm not sure that they are looking for a typical tweener 3-4 OLB type, but rather a pure off the edge pass rusher. Covering RBs and playing standing up isn't going to be a huge priorty since IMO they will be playing A LOT of 4 man fronts. 100%... he favors those you possess those natural predatory skills. Pure edge rusher. I think Ray fits that bill for sure. |
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Post by CTJetsFanII on Mar 20, 2015 13:09:53 GMT -5
While i'm fascinated by Ray's relentless predatory style of play - I'm not "all in" on him. What I am all in on, is this FO doing their homework on these cats. Feelin' good about whatever comes out of it. Same here. I love his tenacity, and he's got some violent hands when smacking the OL's down. He struggles getting of blocks but a lot of college kids do. Idk I'm just not sold on him fully. I think maybe that's because this is a great OLB/DE class. Had he come out in past years I'd probably have him as #1 at his position. Right now I have it as: 1a) Fowler Jr 1b) Beasley 2a) Ray 2b) Dupree Then everyone else I'm pretty close to this sentiment as well, except I'm starting to feel that Dupree may be moving up to "1c" and Harold from Virginia moving into the "3a" slot as a late 1st, early 2nd rounder. |
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Post by Paradis on Apr 4, 2015 12:05:38 GMT -5
Yes please.
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Post by Touchable on Apr 4, 2015 13:11:41 GMT -5
We're in agreement on Hardy. Super reliable and is AWESOME at doing the dirty work and blocking downfield. Reminds me a bit of Hines Ward in that regard. Seems like the kind of kid who could be a better pro than he was a college player. |
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Post by Paradis on Apr 5, 2015 22:35:27 GMT -5
We're in agreement on Hardy. Super reliable and is AWESOME at doing the dirty work and blocking downfield. Reminds me a bit of Hines Ward in that regard. Seems like the kind of kid who could be a better pro than he was a college player. To me, I see a lot the things that I loved about Antonio Brown when he came out of central Michigan. A productive, versatile WR who plays twice as big as he is. He fought his way up from being a local walk-on, and will make plays all over the field, regardless of down and distance... in other news: Parker. |
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Post by Touchable on Apr 6, 2015 4:40:17 GMT -5
in other news: DeVante Parker - WR - Cardinals ESPN's Kevin Weidl compares Louisville WR DeVante Parker to A.J. Green. "Green was a more polished route-runner and a tad bit quicker transitioning out of breaks coming out of Georgia," Weidl wrote. "However, both have long, slender and flexible frames with excellent range tracking throws, and also have the body control and leaping ability to win in contested situations." Meanwhile, based on numbers, Sharon Katz of the Stats & Information Group compares Parker to Michael Floyd, A.J. Green and Martavis Bryant. "Parker is tall (slightly under 6-3) and lean (209 pounds) with long arms and average hands; his build is most similar to Bryant's, but his athleticism most closely resembles that of Floyd and Green," she wrote. "He has good straight-line speed (4.45 40), which is within 0.05 seconds of all three players listed above, and above-average leaping ability for his size." Parker. I'd have no objections if we took Parker over White, but I still say Cooper is the best receiver in the draft. I mean, let's be honest here. If Cooper was 2 inches taller, this wouldn't even be a debate. Something that really flew under the radar for some reason were the reports that they screwed up his 40 time at the combine and he really ran in the 4.35-4.38 range. He's as polished a route runner to come out of college in recent memory, can burn you deep, is great at producing YAC, will make the tough catches across the middle, fights for the ball in traffic, has the clutch gene, and to top it off you have tons of scouts calling his work ethic and commitment to the game Jerry Rice-esque. |
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Post by joepnyj1 on Apr 6, 2015 6:48:13 GMT -5
Paradis, what do you like about him? From what I saw he is no more than a possession receiver who has issues with drops. |
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Post by sec.101row23 on Apr 6, 2015 8:35:55 GMT -5
Paradis, what do you like about him? From what I saw he is no more than a possession receiver who has issues with drops. Where are you getting the issue with drops from regarding Hardy? Kid has great hands and is actually an underrated blocker for his size. |
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Post by Paradis on Apr 6, 2015 23:23:37 GMT -5
4 of my faves were on the most recent "Steals of the draft" on NFL network; David Cobb, Nelson Agholor, Justin Hardy, and Wes Saxton.
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Post by Paradis on Apr 6, 2015 23:24:37 GMT -5
Paradis, what do you like about him? From what I saw he is no more than a possession receiver who has issues with drops. Ridiculously productive, great route runner, can play anywhere on the field. |
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Post by joepnyj1 on Apr 7, 2015 8:51:45 GMT -5
Paradis, what do you like about him? From what I saw he is no more than a possession receiver who has issues with drops. Where are you getting the issue with drops from regarding Hardy? Kid has great hands and is actually an underrated blocker for his size. Saw something on one of his scouting reports. |
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