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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Sept 28, 2015 19:04:57 GMT -5
Don't worry, I gave it back to you. I know how it feels as Ches for some reason felt the need to take one from me. (YOu can look it up you know, in your profile) lolol I'll admit, pure jealousy. I ain't got none, I get a BAZILLION likes but never get the rep. I post my fingers to the bone in the picture thread in the hampur and what do I have to show for it? Rep? Nope, just sore fingahs. Woe is me. the picture thread? that may be your problem right there (pro tip: find the give button not just the take button- whatever you put out into the universe comes back to you)
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Post by Jetworks on Sept 28, 2015 19:08:07 GMT -5
PHI's interior OL (Kelce aside) is hot garbage too, but somehow our all-world D couldn't defeat their A gap or stop the run. How's about that? Fitz isn't going to lose this team many games. But that doesn't mean we should expect him to win many either, it's just not who he is. Did he make some truly boneheaded reads/throws? Sure did. But last I checked, he isn't on punt coverage, isn't the team trainer that kept Decker and Ivory out, nor did he telepathically tell Marshall to try that stupid lateral. To ignore all of that and place the blame squarely on Fitz for the loss is myopic, IMO. As for hanging my hopes on Geno? COMMON man! You're a tool. Fitz is just as turnover prone as Geno. The fact you'd argue that, is why we're going to leave this as is. Lol, I'm a tool because you can't marshal the brain cells to dispute what I said? And to make matters worse you offer up a flat-out incorrect "fact" as your defense? The "fact" is that Fitzpatrick has a POSITIVE TD-INT ratio to Geno's NEGATIVE one, add in the fumbles lost over their careers (not a good stat to use due to Fitzpatrick's significantly longer tenure, but you need a bone) and Fitzpatrick still is close to even, while Geno is 1-2 for that ratio. Is that "just as turnover prone", dummy? www.nfl.com/player/ryanfitzpatrick/2506581/profilewww.nfl.com/player/genosmith/2539335/profileNeither one of them is particularly good, but given the choice I'd prefer Fitzpatrick. For now, the coaching staff agrees with that assessment. If it should change, I'll go 'K' and root for Geno while you can jizz your screen. Stick to your girlish histrionics and save the insults for when you can actually back up what you say, you fucking dope.
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Post by Paradis on Sept 28, 2015 19:55:58 GMT -5
You're a tool. Fitz is just as turnover prone as Geno. The fact you'd argue that, is why we're going to leave this as is. Lol, I'm a tool because you can't marshal the brain cells to dispute what I said? And to make matters worse you offer up a flat-out incorrect "fact" as your defense? The "fact" is that Fitzpatrick has a POSITIVE TD-INT ratio to Geno's NEGATIVE one, add in the fumbles lost over their careers (not a good stat to use due to Fitzpatrick's significantly longer tenure, but you need a bone) and Fitzpatrick still is close to even, while Geno is 1-2 for that ratio. Is that "just as turnover prone", dummy? www.nfl.com/player/ryanfitzpatrick/2506581/profilewww.nfl.com/player/genosmith/2539335/profileNeither one of them is particularly good, but given the choice I'd prefer Fitzpatrick. For now, the coaching staff agrees with that assessment. If it should change, I'll go 'K' and root for Geno while you can jizz your screen. Stick to your girlish histrionics and save the insults for when you can actually back up what you say, you fucking dope. God dammit. I'm so tired of this crap. You're a monkey, you know that? You wouldn't know it if someone fucked your stupid earhole with their equally stupid monkey dick. I can handle people berating Geno, (despite reasons why he ought to be cut some slack) -- because of how atrocious our offense has been the last 2 years... I get it... I don't agree with all of it, but I get it. Some Jets fans are pussy hurt, and don't believe he'll look any different. That's a conversation with some heady discussional points. But some of those same people - such as pointdexters like yourself - seem to think an asshole like Fitzpatrick who sports a 35-65 record, with a gaudy 3-38 versus above .500 teams is "not going to lose us many games".... So let me get this straight, a guy with a liquid shit record against good teams, is suddenly going to transform into the next Trent Dilfer at the age of 32 because of our defense and new offensive weapons... but the younger guy with much more upside and physical talent... well, he's just going to continue sucking... is that it preacher JW? Did I get it right? I TOTALLY see where you're getting that from too.... Because Fitz's best record in a season was 6-10, with shitty Geno only mustering 8-8 in his rookie year with Clyde Gates. Makes perfect sense, that you're going to compare LIFETIME of shit from Fitz, to 2 years of shit from a Rex & Marty But go ahead, plus continue to educate me as to why Fitz and his 3 INTs aren't to held in the same regard. Or that we ought not to try out the better arm with the same floor. Making perfect sense, Schlepnaut.
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Post by vin on Sept 28, 2015 20:01:32 GMT -5
So what the fuck was this thread about again? Ray? Let's have an encore of your post.
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Post by Chesapeakejet on Sept 28, 2015 20:34:34 GMT -5
lolol I'll admit, pure jealousy. I ain't got none, I get a BAZILLION likes but never get the rep. I post my fingers to the bone in the picture thread in the hampur and what do I have to show for it? Rep? Nope, just sore fingahs. Woe is me. the picture thread? that may be your problem right there ( pro tip: find the give button not just the take button- whatever you put out into the universe comes back to you)Not in this universe. Been there tried that, turned cynical.
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Post by DowNY on Sept 28, 2015 22:11:16 GMT -5
Here is the support i lend to Geno How about this?
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Post by DowNY on Sept 28, 2015 22:12:59 GMT -5
Geno > Fitz 10 times out of 10. Has been so since training camp.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Sept 28, 2015 22:37:25 GMT -5
the picture thread? that may be your problem right there ( pro tip: find the give button not just the take button- whatever you put out into the universe comes back to you)Not in this universe. Been there tried that, turned cynical. Sorry to hear that. Maybe you were doin' it wrong.
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Post by nyjets1969 on Sept 29, 2015 7:06:39 GMT -5
In a month there will be another thread to start Fitz or Bryce Petty. Last year everyone on this board saw the real Geno with his 4 picks and wanted matt Simms to start. I hope Geno gets another chance so the fan base will understand that Geno is a head case that will never be a starting QB. Im not big fan of Fitz got a weak arm which cost the Jets the game. Here's the big thing he doesn't make dumb throws that turn into 6 pts for the other team. If Geno was playing half those miss WRS would have still happen with several poor throws turning into 6 picks. If Geno started the Jets are 1-2 not 2-1. I think thats what this fan base needs another year of Geno to understand that the QB position is the #1 priority next season even if it means trading all of next year's draft picks. By the way Fitz didn't have Chris Ivory or Decker so Marshall was double teamed the whole game which brings me to one last point this offense has no weapons outside of Ivory Marshall and Decker. Maybe the fan base should understand that no matter how good the defense is you are not winning without weapons and a QB. For the last 6 years that's all this team has done is spent all the first rounders on defense. So let Geno start to prove what I said in this post that until the Jets find a QB and invest in weapons in the first round they are doomed to mediocrity.
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Post by Harrier on Sept 29, 2015 7:34:01 GMT -5
In a month there will be another thread to start Fitz or Bryce Petty. Last year everyone on this board saw the real Geno with his 4 picks and wanted matt Simms to start. I hope Geno gets another chance so the fan base will understand that Geno is a head case that will never be a starting QB. Im not big fan of Fitz got a weak arm which cost the Jets the game. Here's the big thing he doesn't make dumb throws that turn into 6 pts for the other team. If Geno was playing half those miss WRS would have still happen with several poor throws turning into 6 picks. If Geno started the Jets are 1-2 not 2-1. I think thats what this fan base needs another year of Geno to understand that the QB position is the #1 priority next season even if it means trading all of next year's draft picks. By the way Fitz didn't have Chris Ivory or Decker so Marshall was double teamed the whole game which brings me to one last point this offense has no weapons outside of Ivory Marshall and Decker. Maybe the fan base should understand that no matter how good the defense is you are not winning without weapons and a QB. For the last 6 years that's all this team has done is spent all the first rounders on defense. So let Geno start to prove what I said in this post that until the Jets find a QB and invest in weapons in the first round they are doomed to mediocrity. People want to see Geno in this offense with these weapons, not what he did when he had David Nelson and Greg Salas.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Sept 29, 2015 8:08:03 GMT -5
In a month there will be another thread to start Fitz or Bryce Petty. Last year everyone on this board saw the real Geno with his 4 picks and wanted matt Simms to start. I hope Geno gets another chance so the fan base will understand that Geno is a head case that will never be a starting QB. Im not big fan of Fitz got a weak arm which cost the Jets the game. Here's the big thing he doesn't make dumb throws that turn into 6 pts for the other team. If Geno was playing half those miss WRS would have still happen with several poor throws turning into 6 picks. If Geno started the Jets are 1-2 not 2-1. I think thats what this fan base needs another year of Geno to understand that the QB position is the #1 priority next season even if it means trading all of next year's draft picks. By the way Fitz didn't have Chris Ivory or Decker so Marshall was double teamed the whole game which brings me to one last point this offense has no weapons outside of Ivory Marshall and Decker. Maybe the fan base should understand that no matter how good the defense is you are not winning without weapons and a QB. For the last 6 years that's all this team has done is spent all the first rounders on defense. So let Geno start to prove what I said in this post that until the Jets find a QB and invest in weapons in the first round they are doomed to mediocrity. People want to see Geno in this offense with these weapons, not what he did when he had David Nelson and Greg Salas. Exactly. He had the worst offensive weapons in the history of the NFL last year. Are salad and Nelson even in the league anymore??? You don't give your second year QB those weapons and expect him to perform. Idzik could have moved up and taken a wr last year in the draft but fucked us royally. Now genome was a moron for the fight but I'm sick of fitz already. We are not going to win dick with him. I'd rather c what genius can do and whether he can ever be a real QB for us than dick around with fitz. Going with fitz is safe but boring and not good enough.
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Post by Ff2 on Sept 29, 2015 8:12:52 GMT -5
This whole thread...
What the fuck is the purpose of this thread? It's as if the Geno haters realize Fitz and his shortcomings isn't going to take this team where we all want it to go, and there is a lot of you that just can't fathom the thought of Geno being given that opportunity. Those of you in this category are all pathetic!!!
Here are the facts...
With Fitz starting well and the team starting 2-0, there is no question Geno was not going to be given his opportunity when he got healthy, with the fast start, it became Fitz' team. Even with the loss yesterday, this is still Fitz' team... But...
If the Jets have another game like yesterday and Fitz can't improve, there is no fucking way we should all not start to think about Geno getting his shot. He is the most ready QB on this roster that has the arm and physical ability that will add a dimension to this offense that Fitz simply does not have. Hopefully, Geno is learning how to be a pro, he is maturing, and he sees the leadership and the intangibles, as well as the composure Fitz does bring to the team, because that is the area Geno needs the most development.
But there is no fucking way we shouldn't want Geno to get his shot if Fitz can't do it, flat out fucking period!!!!!
Are you Jets fans, are do you really root for the player's name on their backs???
Wake up! I'm glad you finally realize Geno sucks.
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Post by Jetworks on Sept 29, 2015 8:29:35 GMT -5
Lol, I'm a tool because you can't marshal the brain cells to dispute what I said? And to make matters worse you offer up a flat-out incorrect "fact" as your defense? The "fact" is that Fitzpatrick has a POSITIVE TD-INT ratio to Geno's NEGATIVE one, add in the fumbles lost over their careers (not a good stat to use due to Fitzpatrick's significantly longer tenure, but you need a bone) and Fitzpatrick still is close to even, while Geno is 1-2 for that ratio. Is that "just as turnover prone", dummy? www.nfl.com/player/ryanfitzpatrick/2506581/profilewww.nfl.com/player/genosmith/2539335/profileNeither one of them is particularly good, but given the choice I'd prefer Fitzpatrick. For now, the coaching staff agrees with that assessment. If it should change, I'll go 'K' and root for Geno while you can jizz your screen. Stick to your girlish histrionics and save the insults for when you can actually back up what you say, you fucking dope. God dammit. I'm so tired of this crap. You're a monkey, you know that? You wouldn't know it if someone fucked your stupid earhole with their equally stupid monkey dick. I can handle people berating Geno, (despite reasons why he ought to be cut some slack) -- because of how atrocious our offense has been the last 2 years... I get it... I don't agree with all of it, but I get it. Some Jets fans are pussy hurt, and don't believe he'll look any different. That's a conversation with some heady discussional points. But some of those same people - such as pointdexters like yourself - seem to think an asshole like Fitzpatrick who sports a 35-65 record, with a gaudy 3-38 versus above .500 teams is "not going to lose us many games".... So let me get this straight, a guy with a liquid shit record against good teams, is suddenly going to transform into the next Trent Dilfer at the age of 32 because of our defense and new offensive weapons... but the younger guy with much more upside and physical talent... well, he's just going to continue sucking... is that it preacher JW? Did I get it right? I TOTALLY see where you're getting that from too.... Because Fitz's best record in a season was 6-10, with shitty Geno only mustering 8-8 in his rookie year with Clyde Gates. Makes perfect sense, that you're going to compare LIFETIME of shit from Fitz, to 2 years of shit from a Rex & Marty But go ahead, plus continue to educate me as to why Fitz and his 3 INTs aren't to held in the same regard. Or that we ought not to try out the better arm with the same floor. Making perfect sense, Schlepnaut. Look guy, you were wrong and since it's the Internet I don't expect you to admit it, but let's not complicate things by making more "points" and confusing yourself further, K? I mean really, we are going to start using W-L records now? Seriously? And why is it significant who was on the field for Geno but not for Fitzpatrick? Let's try and be consistent with our arguments here, sweetie. Dummy version of my position: Geno isn't good. Fitz isn't good, but he's better than Geno at the moment. Youth or arm strength doesn't mean Geno will be better. If coaches go with Geno, I'll be just as 'meh' as I am with Fitzpatrick. You aren't particularly good at making points. I am and it vexes the shit out of you. You're being a dickhead and I'm reciprocating. Welcome to Teh Hampur. In a month there will be another thread to start Fitz or Bryce Petty. Last year everyone on this board saw the real Geno with his 4 picks and wanted matt Simms to start. I hope Geno gets another chance so the fan base will understand that Geno is a head case that will never be a starting QB. Im not big fan of Fitz got a weak arm which cost the Jets the game. Here's the big thing he doesn't make dumb throws that turn into 6 pts for the other team. If Geno was playing half those miss WRS would have still happen with several poor throws turning into 6 picks. If Geno started the Jets are 1-2 not 2-1. I think thats what this fan base needs another year of Geno to understand that the QB position is the #1 priority next season even if it means trading all of next year's draft picks. By the way Fitz didn't have Chris Ivory or Decker so Marshall was double teamed the whole game which brings me to one last point this offense has no weapons outside of Ivory Marshall and Decker. Maybe the fan base should understand that no matter how good the defense is you are not winning without weapons and a QB. For the last 6 years that's all this team has done is spent all the first rounders on defense. So let Geno start to prove what I said in this post that until the Jets find a QB and invest in weapons in the first round they are doomed to mediocrity. People want to see Geno in this offense with these weapons, not what he did when he had David Nelson and Greg Salas. I totally get this, and it's not necessarily an unfair assumption that he may do better. But Fitzpatrick was at a disadvantage without Ivory and Decker, yet gets no slack for that. Would Geno have done better, who knows? My guess is we are going to find out pretty soon because Fitzpatrick isn't the answer and is likely playing with a short rope as it is.
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Post by carlito1171 on Sept 29, 2015 9:01:13 GMT -5
But Fitzpatrick was at a disadvantage without Ivory and Decker, yet gets no slack for that. I think that argument is shortsighted. Fitz should get slack for not having Decker and Ivory, but Geno was throwing to Greg Salas and David Fucking Nelson for stretches last year but no, no slack for him?
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Post by Harrier on Sept 29, 2015 9:31:04 GMT -5
God dammit. I'm so tired of this crap. You're a monkey, you know that? You wouldn't know it if someone fucked your stupid earhole with their equally stupid monkey dick. I can handle people berating Geno, (despite reasons why he ought to be cut some slack) -- because of how atrocious our offense has been the last 2 years... I get it... I don't agree with all of it, but I get it. Some Jets fans are pussy hurt, and don't believe he'll look any different. That's a conversation with some heady discussional points. But some of those same people - such as pointdexters like yourself - seem to think an asshole like Fitzpatrick who sports a 35-65 record, with a gaudy 3-38 versus above .500 teams is "not going to lose us many games".... So let me get this straight, a guy with a liquid shit record against good teams, is suddenly going to transform into the next Trent Dilfer at the age of 32 because of our defense and new offensive weapons... but the younger guy with much more upside and physical talent... well, he's just going to continue sucking... is that it preacher JW? Did I get it right? I TOTALLY see where you're getting that from too.... Because Fitz's best record in a season was 6-10, with shitty Geno only mustering 8-8 in his rookie year with Clyde Gates. Makes perfect sense, that you're going to compare LIFETIME of shit from Fitz, to 2 years of shit from a Rex & Marty But go ahead, plus continue to educate me as to why Fitz and his 3 INTs aren't to held in the same regard. Or that we ought not to try out the better arm with the same floor. Making perfect sense, Schlepnaut. Look guy, you were wrong and since it's the Internet I don't expect you to admit it, but let's not complicate things by making more "points" and confusing yourself further, K? I mean really, we are going to start using W-L records now? Seriously? And why is it significant who was on the field for Geno but not for Fitzpatrick? Let's try and be consistent with our arguments here, sweetie. Dummy version of my position: Geno isn't good. Fitz isn't good, but he's better than Geno at the moment. Youth or arm strength doesn't mean Geno will be better. If coaches go with Geno, I'll be just as 'meh' as I am with Fitzpatrick. You aren't particularly good at making points. I am and it vexes the shit out of you. You're being a dickhead and I'm reciprocating. Welcome to Teh Hampur. People want to see Geno in this offense with these weapons, not what he did when he had David Nelson and Greg Salas. I totally get this, and it's not necessarily an unfair assumption that he may do better. But Fitzpatrick was at a disadvantage without Ivory and Decker, yet gets no slack for that. Would Geno have done better, who knows? My guess is we are going to find out pretty soon because Fitzpatrick isn't the answer and is likely playing with a short rope as it is. Not to sure why you think Fitz is gettin no slack, as others have mentioned, it's an anti-Geno fest over at JN and there's a fair few here still not wanting Geno to start. I think the reaction has been quite relaxed to be honest, can you imagine if Geno had thrown 3 picks in that game? especially the one just after we had turned the ball over. The turnovers are not really my issue with Fitz, it's about how defences play him, no one respects his arm and he can't keep a defense honest. We have to see what Geno can do with these weapons once and for all.
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