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Post by rangerous on Apr 13, 2016 6:45:44 GMT -5
But back to trump, for too long our military has been hampered by its rules of engagement that don't necessarily apply to the other guy. Does the Geneva convention stop Isis from beheading or torturing civilians? How about the combatants they face? How about anyone who professes to have a different religion? The answer is no on all counts and when you face an enemy so vile you will not win if you go around playing by rules. A s Carson said, since when is war civilized? It is not. War is hell and it should be pointed out that our army air corp (and especially those effeminite brits) did a number on german civilians during the war. In a sense justice belongs to the victor. But getting back to Trump and Isis, what he truly means is that we will not be able to beat those guys by playing by any rules. The mideast has been a place where one just doesn't kill the immediate bad guy but ensures that the whole family is unable to spawn more. We all think that we are so much more civilized than we were during the Roman times but the simple fact is we aren't so what Trump says makes perfect sense. Another point is that the Geneva convention only applies to combatants of sovereign nations. Isis is not a nation. It is a terror group that is squatting on someone else's territoty. So in this instance, the rules don't apply. And if you think they do, then just go see the ease with which Obozo launches his drone strikes. As I recall more than one US citizen has been executed without due process. If you want to call out Trump then at least call out the Hildebeast, Obozo and the other morons in this administration. And let's not forget when McCain was caught saying bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb iran to the beach boys tune back in 2008. And that's the guy who was so vehimently against waterboarding. Right on Rangerous - two things come to mind. The British Ambassador to Washington during WW2 said that the Americans do not think of the japanese as humans, but rather talks about them as an unruly horde of insects. They were fanatical, cruel and determined. We beat them by applying overwhelming and unrelenting force. That is how you win a war. Another story regarding Ancient Rome - the carthaginians (remember hanibal and his elephants) were going up and down the Italian peninsual for years causing havic and destruction. Finally, the Cesar at the time sent a number of Roman legions lead by Roman General Skippio Africanas to the City of Carthage to take the fight to them. The roman legions laid seige to the city, destroyed it, killed everyone and salted the earth so that nothing grows there to this day. When the roman general came back and was hailed for his victory and making Rome safe once again, Cesar congratulated him. Skippio replied "We have made a desert and we will call it peace." Now, I am not calling for this kind of tactic against the muslims in our modern times, but you do not win wars fighting with our BS rules of engagement against a determined enemy that has no regard for life. It's us vs. them and I choose our side. the other point to be made is the notion of destroying the families is something straight out of the godfather. this was the way of dealing with unruly people back in the roman times. and it morphed into the destruction of entire families by the time islam came around. and it makes sense. in godfather his whole family was wiped out and he was forced to flee as a child. he came back and extracted revenge. the reasoning is that they don't want to be subject to the grudges held by the family members. especially the male ones. and there is some truth to the general pershing stories in the phillipines. i'm sure the brits did the same in pakistan and the sudan. the point is to get the attention of the enemy you need to understand what makes them tick. if wrapping a bad guy in pig skin sends the right message, you do it. this does not mean tolerating a my lai massacre. it does mean adapting the rules to fight. |
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Post by Touchable on Apr 27, 2016 12:17:54 GMT -5
Trump with a GREAT speech today
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Post by Hotman on Apr 27, 2016 17:26:55 GMT -5
Trump with a GREAT speech today I hope he starts humiliating that bitch... is that what he did? |
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Post by Trades on Apr 29, 2016 18:16:22 GMT -5
 You know, because Mexico is so wonderful. |
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Post by Touchable on Apr 29, 2016 21:33:55 GMT -5
You know, because Mexico is so wonderful. I'd execute every one of them based on the concept of refried beans alone. |
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Post by Trades on Apr 29, 2016 21:54:32 GMT -5
You know, because Mexico is so wonderful. I'd execute every one of them based on the concept of refried beans alone. Don't any of these idiots understand that they came here because their country is a shit show? |
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Post by Trades on Apr 30, 2016 15:09:43 GMT -5
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Post by DDNYjets on Apr 30, 2016 15:38:12 GMT -5
Do those morons think waving Mexicans flags and people covering their faces with bandannas is gonna hurt Trump?
The fucking ingrates.
Only in American. Literally.
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Post by Trades on May 1, 2016 21:32:46 GMT -5
Do those morons think waving Mexicans flags and people covering their faces with bandannas is gonna hurt Trump? The fucking ingrates. Only in American. Literally. Looks more like a commercial FOR Trump not against him. |
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Post by DDNYjets on May 2, 2016 6:22:54 GMT -5
Do those morons think waving Mexicans flags and people covering their faces with bandannas is gonna hurt Trump? The fucking ingrates. Only in American. Literally. Looks more like a commercial FOR Trump not against him. I was reading some articles the other day about how the satirists and comedians (who my generation gets their "news" from which is a topic for another thread) have had a rough time pinning down Trump and making a mockery of him like everyone assumed they would. Instead they have turned their focus towards mocking his supporters. That's another thing that will backfire on them. I started out not even liking Trump but after all the attacks and misrepresentations about him and his supporters I find myself rooting for him. Strange times indeed. |
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Post by Hotman on May 2, 2016 16:55:42 GMT -5
I started out not even liking Trump but after all the attacks and misrepresentations about him and his supporters I find myself rooting for him. Strange times indeed. a man can relate |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 20:39:29 GMT -5
He's reading from teleprompters and hiring the elites to run his campaign. Please please someone run as a 3rd party candidate. Hillary will crush him in debates. Awful. Looks more like a commercial FOR Trump not against him. I was reading some articles the other day about how the satirists and comedians (who my generation gets their "news" from which is a topic for another thread) have had a rough time pinning down Trump and making a mockery of him like everyone assumed they would. Instead they have turned their focus towards mocking his supporters. That's another thing that will backfire on them. I started out not even liking Trump but after all the attacks and misrepresentations about him and his supporters I find myself rooting for him. Strange times indeed. |
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Post by Hotman on May 3, 2016 21:15:26 GMT -5
He's reading from teleprompters and hiring the elites to run his campaign. Please please someone run as a 3rd party candidate. Hillary will crush him in debates. Awful. I was reading some articles the other day about how the satirists and comedians (who my generation gets their "news" from which is a topic for another thread) have had a rough time pinning down Trump and making a mockery of him like everyone assumed they would. Instead they have turned their focus towards mocking his supporters. That's another thing that will backfire on them. I started out not even liking Trump but after all the attacks and misrepresentations about him and his supporters I find myself rooting for him. Strange times indeed. Bernie will run. And he will win. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 21:17:17 GMT -5
Bernie has no shot. He's reading from teleprompters and hiring the elites to run his campaign. Please please someone run as a 3rd party candidate. Hillary will crush him in debates. Awful. Bernie will run. And he will win. |
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Post by Hotman on May 3, 2016 21:19:39 GMT -5
Bernie has no shot. Bernie will run. And he will win. LOL |
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