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Post by maury77 on Sept 17, 2016 14:51:12 GMT -5
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Sept 17, 2016 14:59:21 GMT -5
He's an interesting guy. I'll have make a point of watching him more often. Wonder where James Conner sits these days in the eyes of NFL scouts. Has a lot of those characteristics too, but given how things have played out for his college career - maybe he's become hard to project in the pros? Yeah I'm not sure where he'll go. I wasn't a huge fan, but you got to root for him after everything he's been through. His numbers last week vs Penn State were pretty good. |
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Oct 2, 2016 14:21:55 GMT -5
May this thread be a place to discuss prospects you like (naturally) but also feel is a realistic/good fit for the Jets. In other words, Myles Garret doesn't belong in here. He might belong in here now, but knowing the Jets we'll win week 17 and it will drop us from the 1st pick to the 6th pick. |
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Post by RobR on Oct 2, 2016 23:50:03 GMT -5
May this thread be a place to discuss prospects you like (naturally) but also feel is a realistic/good fit for the Jets. In other words, Myles Garret doesn't belong in here. He might belong in here now, but knowing the Jets we'll win week 17 and it will drop us from the 1st pick to the 6th pick. If we go defense again, this will be me on draft day. media.giphy.com/media/oaPcDncoLfgjK/giphy.gif |
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Oct 3, 2016 0:07:32 GMT -5
I'd love for us to take someone on offense, but as deep as this RB class is I don't think any of them are worth a top 10 pick. There aren't any QBs, WRs, or OL worth taking that high either. Hopefully that changes. |
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Post by Lithfan on Oct 3, 2016 11:54:47 GMT -5
I just want an impact player. Don't care which side of the ball it will be on. We need someone who can come in and make plays. Just about every established playmaker on this team is over 30. We have needs everywhere. Except DL.
Talking draft on October 3. Thanks Fitz and your 10 picks. Thanks Bowles for your historically inept pass defense. Thanks Macc for Hack & Fitz. And everyone else associated with the sorry ass team. After these last two games, I feel like I am turning into jetrepulsion.
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Post by RobR on Oct 3, 2016 23:27:25 GMT -5
Don't care which side of the ball it will be on You lost me on this one. We've already tried the defensive route, albeit our GM fucks up the picks outside of Williams, but in the end it's not working. We have 30+ year old WR's, RB's, some lineman, no TE's, and it's doubtful we even have a QB worth rostering at this point, yet we have four of them. If Petty doesn't pan out, I have absolutely no faith in any of the other QB's. With what I've been through recently I'm not even sure why I even care anymore. It's like a terminal disease that takes your entire lifetime too come to fruition. I'm going to positively rep jetrepulsion on every post I see. He'll be the anti Untouchable in no time. I've lost my house, both vehicles I owned, and one of my closest friends that I've known since childhood passed away 18 days after he turned 44 on the 19th of this month......and I was worried about seeing the game today. WTF is wrong with myself?...these Jets are a disease that I hope someday I will be able too walk away from. Fuck you Woody, Fuck you Mac you overrated piece of shit, and an especially big Fuck you to that Bubba Gump shrimp eating fucktard we have as a coach. I hope we never win another game this year.....bunch of fucking losers. |
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Post by sec.101row23 on Oct 4, 2016 7:11:43 GMT -5
Assuming the Jets are picking in the top 12 or so next year, the only viable offensive position worth drafting will be a RB IMO. I don't see a QB worth taking that high, nor do I think Mac would take one there. It also appears to be a weak draft for elite O line talent.
If it were me, I would spend my cap money on signing vets for the O line and draft as many RBs, WRs and TEs as I can in the draft. Given the age of Forte I think you almost have to take a couple RBs, there is ridiculous depth at the position and you can get two guys who can step in day one and play.
I wouldn't mind McCaffrey in the first and Hurd in the 3rd combo. That would be a pretty complete backfield.
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Post by Lithfan on Oct 4, 2016 7:23:46 GMT -5
You lost me on this one. We've already tried the defensive route, albeit our GM fucks up the picks outside of Williams, but in the end it's not working. We have 30+ year old WR's, RB's, some lineman, no TE's, and it's doubtful we even have a QB worth rostering at this point, yet we have four of them. If Petty doesn't pan out, I have absolutely no faith in any of the other QB's. First off, sorry for everything you have to go through. If sports gives you a few hours where the most important thing in your mind is whether or not we get a stop on 3rd down (we probably won't) or hit a big play to win a game (again, we probably won't), then it is giving you the break you need. For the last two or three years, I have been right there with you screaming best offensive player. But the difference is, we had competent defenses. This defense looks to be completely inept. I have a sneaking suspicion that it is more scheme than personnel, but from what I have seen so far, we have no impact players on either side of the ball that are less than 30 years old, except DL. Our core has gotten old -- Harris, Revis, Marshall, Forte, Decker, Mangold, etc. None of these guys are getting any younger. You win one of two ways in this league. Either you have an elite QB that can elevate the talent around him, or you have a nasty, punishing pass rush. We have neither, but with our DL, I think we are closer to the latter. If we took an edge rusher who can get after the QB, I won't have a problem with that. If we take an inside LB because our coach is trying to recreate what he had in Arizona, or an in the box safety and make him cover, then I would have big problems with it. Ideal world, yes, I would prefer on an offensive playmaker, but I really want a guy who will have in impact. Somehow, we have to come away with 2 impact players in the first two rounds. Something we have not done since Harris and Revis in 2007. Or Brick and Mangold in 2006. |
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Post by sec.101row23 on Oct 4, 2016 7:28:15 GMT -5
You lost me on this one. We've already tried the defensive route, albeit our GM fucks up the picks outside of Williams, but in the end it's not working. We have 30+ year old WR's, RB's, some lineman, no TE's, and it's doubtful we even have a QB worth rostering at this point, yet we have four of them. If Petty doesn't pan out, I have absolutely no faith in any of the other QB's. First off, sorry for everything you have to go through. If sports gives you a few hours where the most important thing in your mind is whether or not we get a stop on 3rd down (we probably won't) or hit a big play to win a game (again, we probably won't), then it is giving you the break you need. For the last two or three years, I have been right there with you screaming best offensive player. But the difference is, we had competent defenses. This defense looks to be completely inept. I have a sneaking suspicion that it is more scheme than personnel, but from what I have seen so far, we have no impact players on either side of the ball that are less than 30 years old, except DL. Our core has gotten old -- Harris, Revis, Marshall, Forte, Decker, Mangold, etc. None of these guys are getting any younger. You win one of two ways in this league. Either you have an elite QB that can elevate the talent around him, or you have a nasty, punishing pass rush. We have neither, but with our DL, I think we are closer to the latter. If we took an edge rusher who can get after the QB, I won't have a problem with that. If we take an inside LB because our coach is trying to recreate what he had in Arizona, or an in the box safety and make him cover, then I would have big problems with it. Ideal world, yes, I would prefer on an offensive playmaker, but I really want a guy who will have in impact. Somehow, we have to come away with 2 impact players in the first two rounds. Something we have not done since Harris and Revis in 2007. Or Brick and Mangold in 2006. This team has yet to find an edge pass rusher. It's been a massive need for a while now, and yet they keep loading up on interior linemen. I would be totally fine with a legit edge rusher in the first, but outside of Garrett not sure there is an elite one worth a top 10 pick. |
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Oct 4, 2016 7:52:52 GMT -5
First off, sorry for everything you have to go through. If sports gives you a few hours where the most important thing in your mind is whether or not we get a stop on 3rd down (we probably won't) or hit a big play to win a game (again, we probably won't), then it is giving you the break you need. For the last two or three years, I have been right there with you screaming best offensive player. But the difference is, we had competent defenses. This defense looks to be completely inept. I have a sneaking suspicion that it is more scheme than personnel, but from what I have seen so far, we have no impact players on either side of the ball that are less than 30 years old, except DL. Our core has gotten old -- Harris, Revis, Marshall, Forte, Decker, Mangold, etc. None of these guys are getting any younger. You win one of two ways in this league. Either you have an elite QB that can elevate the talent around him, or you have a nasty, punishing pass rush. We have neither, but with our DL, I think we are closer to the latter. If we took an edge rusher who can get after the QB, I won't have a problem with that. If we take an inside LB because our coach is trying to recreate what he had in Arizona, or an in the box safety and make him cover, then I would have big problems with it. Ideal world, yes, I would prefer on an offensive playmaker, but I really want a guy who will have in impact. Somehow, we have to come away with 2 impact players in the first two rounds. Something we have not done since Harris and Revis in 2007. Or Brick and Mangold in 2006. This team has yet to find an edge pass rusher. It's been a massive need for a while now, and yet they keep loading up on interior linemen. I would be totally fine with a legit edge rusher in the first, but outside of Garrett not sure there is an elite one worth a top 10 pick. Charles Harris might be worth a top 10 pick |
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Post by sec.101row23 on Oct 4, 2016 8:00:04 GMT -5
This team has yet to find an edge pass rusher. It's been a massive need for a while now, and yet they keep loading up on interior linemen. I would be totally fine with a legit edge rusher in the first, but outside of Garrett not sure there is an elite one worth a top 10 pick. Charles Harris might be worth a top 10 pick I could see that. Especially if he tests well. |
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Post by maury77 on Oct 12, 2016 6:30:28 GMT -5
I'm a little late to the party on this thread. Honestly, I don't even want to wait for the draft to address edge rusher, I hope we address it in free agency.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Oct 12, 2016 6:36:38 GMT -5
I have started reading some of these VERY early mock drafts that are starting to emerge. Most have the Jets picking in the top 10 and it seems that the current consensus has the Jets taking a safety. Jabril Peppers is being projected as a FS in the NFL and was linked to the Jets a few times, Jamal Adams S LSU and Marcus Williams S, Utah also projected to the Jets a few times.
All are nice prospects, but top 10 worthy? Maybe Peppers because of his versatility, but it's kinda thin at the top of this draft class right now.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Oct 12, 2016 6:40:37 GMT -5
I'm a little late to the party on this thread. Honestly, I don't even want to wait for the draft to address edge rusher, I hope we address it in free agency. I have t looked at who the potential FA edge rushers are yet, but I'm not paying open market free agent money to pass rushers. They all get vastly over paid and then what? Seems like you never get a good return on your investment. |
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