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Post by maury77 on Nov 26, 2016 21:35:19 GMT -5
I watched the Luke Falk 2016 tape on draft breakdown (they only have one game).
Pros: Decent height, very good at going through his progressions and scanning the field, accurate and throws with touch, quick and easy release.
Cons: Average athlete, didn't attempt many difficult throws, so it was hard to get a read on his arm talent.
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Post by RobR on Nov 26, 2016 21:46:21 GMT -5
Let me know what you think of Falk and be brutally honest. I'll watch him after Dalvin Cook finishes shredding Florida. He's a different back since the first game of the season. He sure would look good in green and white. |
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Post by RobR on Nov 26, 2016 21:50:42 GMT -5
Anyone else have an opinion of Falk? The good, the bad, and the ugly.
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Nov 26, 2016 22:02:13 GMT -5
Anyone else have an opinion of Falk? The good, the bad, and the ugly. I've watched a little of him. He looks promising, but I still need to watch a bunch more. I'll probably finish watching his game against Stanford tomorrow. |
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Post by Lithfan on Nov 26, 2016 22:06:09 GMT -5
Anyone else have an opinion of Falk? The good, the bad, and the ugly. I also watched the same DraftBreakdown clip that Maury referenced. Anyone else see a bit of Chad Pennington in Falk. Not the biggest arm, but he makes up for it with accuracy, ball placement & touch -- kind of like Chad. Pre-injury Chad. Or am I out of my mind? |
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Post by RobR on Nov 26, 2016 22:10:50 GMT -5
Anyone else have an opinion of Falk? The good, the bad, and the ugly. I also watched the same DraftBreakdown clip that Maury referenced. Anyone else see a bit of Chad Pennington in Falk. Not the biggest arm, but he makes up for it with accuracy, ball placement & touch -- kind of like Chad. Pre-injury Chad. Or am I out of my mind? These are the responses I'm looking for. I don't agree because I've seen him make all of the throws. I absolutely agree he doesn't have a + arm but he's still young and should gain more velocity as he fills into his body. He can easily put on another 10 lbs. |
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Nov 26, 2016 22:19:20 GMT -5
These are the responses I'm looking for. I don't agree because I've seen him make all of the throws. I absolutely agree he doesn't have a + arm but he's still young and should gain more velocity as he fills into his body. He can easily put on another 10 lbs. I agree. He doesn't have a cannon but he can definitely make all the throws. They actually look pretty effort less which is why it might seem like he's lacking arm strength. One negative thing I've noticed is he tends to sail the ball on intermediate routes across the middle. It doesn't worry me too much though. |
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Post by Lithfan on Nov 26, 2016 22:24:57 GMT -5
I also watched the same DraftBreakdown clip that Maury referenced. Anyone else see a bit of Chad Pennington in Falk. Not the biggest arm, but he makes up for it with accuracy, ball placement & touch -- kind of like Chad. Pre-injury Chad. Or am I out of my mind? These are the responses I'm looking for. I don't agree because I've seen him make all of the throws. I absolutely agree he doesn't have a + arm but he's still young and should gain more velocity as he fills into his body. He can easily put on another 10 lbs. I meant the Pennington comparison as a compliment. And it is why I specified pre-injury, when Chad had an adequate (not great) NFL arm. Only watched the one tape of Falk and bits of a game last week, so I may be underestimating his arm strength (and maybe remembering 2002 Pennington a little too fondly, which should be understandable considering what we have seen under center for the past decade). I really like the way Falk hits receivers in stride on some of the shorter throws, maximizing the chance for YAC, and most of the deep throws I have seen, he puts quite a bit of air under the ball, but it drops right where the receiver needs it. I have not seen him drive a lot of balls deep. I really was looking forward to seeing yesterday's game against Washington to see how he handled those WA CBs. |
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Post by sec.101row23 on Nov 26, 2016 22:26:00 GMT -5
I also watched the same DraftBreakdown clip that Maury referenced. Anyone else see a bit of Chad Pennington in Falk. Not the biggest arm, but he makes up for it with accuracy, ball placement & touch -- kind of like Chad. Pre-injury Chad. Or am I out of my mind? These are the responses I'm looking for. I don't agree because I've seen him make all of the throws. I absolutely agree he doesn't have a + arm but he's still young and should gain more velocity as he fills into his body. He can easily put on another 10 lbs. Agreed. He makes a lot of different types of throws and is extremely accurate. Touch when he needs it and more zip when called for. That and accuracy is more important than top end velocity IMO. You can put on a few more MPH once he gets in an NFL camp and training program. If you are Maccagnan, do you use another high draft pick on a QB? |
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Post by maury77 on Nov 26, 2016 22:50:09 GMT -5
Both of these Florida CBs look like studs, its a heck of a CB class in 2017.
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Post by RobR on Nov 26, 2016 22:55:30 GMT -5
These are the responses I'm looking for. I don't agree because I've seen him make all of the throws. I absolutely agree he doesn't have a + arm but he's still young and should gain more velocity as he fills into his body. He can easily put on another 10 lbs. I meant the Pennington comparison as a compliment. And it is why I specified pre-injury, when Chad had an adequate (not great) NFL arm. Only watched the one tape of Falk and bits of a game last week, so I may be underestimating his arm strength (and maybe remembering 2002 Pennington a little too fondly, which should be understandable considering what we have seen under center for the past decade). I really like the way Falk hits receivers in stride on some of the shorter throws, maximizing the chance for YAC, and most of the deep throws I have seen, he puts quite a bit of air under the ball, but it drops right where the receiver needs it. I have not seen him drive a lot of balls deep. I really was looking forward to seeing yesterday's game against Washington to see how he handled those WA CBs. We're in agreement and I like your assessment....spot on. In the last two games I've never seen him drive the ball either but like you mentioned, he'll float in a beauty of a 40 yarder. It's there and will only improve when he gets stronger. |
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Nov 26, 2016 22:56:19 GMT -5
Both of these Florida CBs look like studs, its a heck of a CB class in 2017. This CB class is crazy. You have Tabor and Wilson on Florida. Personally I like Wilson better. I'm hoping the amount of talent at CB pushes some good ones to the 2nd and 3rd round. Imagine taking Dalvin Cook or Mike McGlinchey in round 1 and then grabbing Sidney Jones and Marquez White in rounds 2 and 3. |
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Post by RobR on Nov 26, 2016 22:58:22 GMT -5
If you are Maccagnan, do you use another high draft pick on a QB? Here sure as hell should but since we're the Jets we'll pass on them because we're developing Hackenberg. A QB that can't even throw a screen pass. |
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Post by RobR on Nov 26, 2016 23:00:35 GMT -5
Agreed. He makes a lot of different types of throws and is extremely accurate. Touch when he needs it and more zip when called for. That and accuracy is more important than top end velocity IMO. You can put on a few more MPH once he gets in an NFL camp and training program. So where do you see him being drafted? I've never gone out on a limb for a QB prospect since Vince Young although in my defense I talked up Wentz last year. |
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Nov 26, 2016 23:01:35 GMT -5
Here sure as hell should but since we're the Jets we'll pass on them because we're developing Hackenberg. A QB that can't even throw a screen pass. Next year he learns footwork. He might be ready to hold the clipboard by year 5. |
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