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Nov 6, 2016 18:15:09 GMT -5
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Post by Harrier on Nov 6, 2016 18:15:09 GMT -5
Looks like there's some house cleaning goin on, expect a for sale sign on teh Hampur lawn.
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Post by shakin on Nov 6, 2016 18:20:55 GMT -5
ragu i will take the hampur off your hands for $1,000 bucks
make the check out to shakin yo llc
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Post by crossfire on Nov 6, 2016 18:30:05 GMT -5
I think Bowles gets blame too. The coaching has been terrible. Sure, throw blame at Mac and I agree it's warranted. But we used to bust Rex's balls for only being a defensive coach. Gailey has been awful. What has the head coach done about it??? Nothing. He is a defensive coach, the defense has been horrible. It's not all the players. Coaches get credit and take blame and Bowles deserves a shitload of the blame. Fair point. However He led us to 10 wins last year and had us playing decent disciplined football and offensively we functioned well for the first time in a long time. I just personally believe that the majority of this bunch are uncoachable and that this roster is grossly overrated. Let's look at it.... OFFENSE: QB - Fitz, nothin needs to be said. LT - Macc provided a banged up Clady, average at best. LG - Carp is Solid. C - Stuck with Johnson as Mangold declines through injury, he's played well but he's not scaring any defensive fronts. RG - Winters is solid but unspectacular. RT - Ijalana and Breno are horse shit. WR - outside of Marshall and Deck it's decent unit but again not scaring any DB's at this point, solid unit but far from great IMO RB - Forte and Powell would be good if they where behind Dallas's oline, behind our average line the ground game looks a struggle. DEFENSE: Dline - The only group with genuine quality, although there's only Leo showing up so maybe you could blame coaching for that one. LB - No pass rush or coverage ability, needs blowing up and has need it for a long time, not sure Mauldin and Jenkins are the answer and that's on Macc if they don't pan out, only time will tell here. Secondary - Same, no real quality, just average across the board. I thought Skrine and Pryor where good players last year but they are just bodies this year, again no one in the league is scared of them. Average roster so why are we surprised by any of this? We need to look at what Dallas and Oakland have done, big physical offensive line, actually draft a RB and find a QB or at least look at the ones we have. Bowles should take some blame but Macc is dissapointing me more by the week. Did you hear Forte after the game? He said they have issues in game and they can't even get them fixed in practice. That's on the coaching staff. Bowles keeps saying things are correctable but nothing gets corrected. No halftime adjustments? Coaching. I'm not saying Mac. But this team has massive issues. The QB is not on Mac... yet. He came in and there was no QB. Geno sucks. Fitz sucks too but had a good year last year. But nobody trusted Geno for good reason. I didn't want to sign Fitz anyway but it's hard to blame them. Now if Petty and / or Hack suck, well, Mac will have officially sealed his fate. Signing Mo? I think most of us wanted to resign him. Revis? I admit that I thought he was diminished last year but I didn't think he would be this bad. He is likely to get cut. That's on Revis for being out of shape too but I have to give Mac blame too. I just think that this coaching staff has let winnable games slip through their hands and that's on Bowles and his staff.
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Nov 6, 2016 18:34:17 GMT -5
Post by thebigragu on Nov 6, 2016 18:34:17 GMT -5
Looks like there's some house cleaning goin on, expect a for sale sign on teh Hampur lawn. Whys that?
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Nov 6, 2016 18:36:37 GMT -5
Post by thebigragu on Nov 6, 2016 18:36:37 GMT -5
ragu i will take the hampur off your hands for $1,000 bucks make the check out to shakin yo llc Im going to AC im leaving Chicago this week im running away and living the rest of my life in AC as A PIMP. Maybe Reno. Just go old school me. Come in split heads recruit the gangbangers and fucking set up shop
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Post by frostlich on Nov 6, 2016 18:37:26 GMT -5
Macc needs to prioritise that O-line in the offseason, put Hack or Petty behind a water tight line that can run the ball. That would make too much sense. Not surewhy it's soo hard to keep a good OL. Jets cant seem to do it with any regularity. Seems pretty basic: great OL doesn't mean your offense is great, but a poor OL will guarantee your offense sucks.
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Nov 6, 2016 18:43:51 GMT -5
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Post by Harrier on Nov 6, 2016 18:43:51 GMT -5
Fair point. However He led us to 10 wins last year and had us playing decent disciplined football and offensively we functioned well for the first time in a long time. I just personally believe that the majority of this bunch are uncoachable and that this roster is grossly overrated. Let's look at it.... OFFENSE: QB - Fitz, nothin needs to be said. LT - Macc provided a banged up Clady, average at best. LG - Carp is Solid. C - Stuck with Johnson as Mangold declines through injury, he's played well but he's not scaring any defensive fronts. RG - Winters is solid but unspectacular. RT - Ijalana and Breno are horse shit. WR - outside of Marshall and Deck it's decent unit but again not scaring any DB's at this point, solid unit but far from great IMO RB - Forte and Powell would be good if they where behind Dallas's oline, behind our average line the ground game looks a struggle. DEFENSE: Dline - The only group with genuine quality, although there's only Leo showing up so maybe you could blame coaching for that one. LB - No pass rush or coverage ability, needs blowing up and has need it for a long time, not sure Mauldin and Jenkins are the answer and that's on Macc if they don't pan out, only time will tell here. Secondary - Same, no real quality, just average across the board. I thought Skrine and Pryor where good players last year but they are just bodies this year, again no one in the league is scared of them. Average roster so why are we surprised by any of this? We need to look at what Dallas and Oakland have done, big physical offensive line, actually draft a RB and find a QB or at least look at the ones we have. Bowles should take some blame but Macc is dissapointing me more by the week. Did you hear Forte after the game? He said they have issues in game and they can't even get them fixed in practice. That's on the coaching staff. Bowles keeps saying things are correctable but nothing gets corrected. No halftime adjustments? Coaching. I'm not saying Mac. But this team has massive issues. The QB is not on Mac... yet. He came in and there was no QB. Geno sucks. Fitz sucks too but had a good year last year. But nobody trusted Geno for good reason. I didn't want to sign Fitz anyway but it's hard to blame them. Now if Petty and / or Hack suck, well, Mac will have officially sealed his fate. Signing Mo? I think most of us wanted to resign him. Revis? I admit that I thought he was diminished last year but I didn't think he would be this bad. He is likely to get cut. That's on Revis for being out of shape too but I have to give Mac blame too. I just think that this coaching staff has let winnable games slip through their hands and that's on Bowles and his staff. Well I suppose this is the million dollar question, where do you draw the line on whether its on the players or the coaches? What if these players are incapable of bein taught, what if an element of them are just uncoachable? Or incapable of becoming better players? For me, you can't make an average guard block better who has already hit his ceiling, or make an average LB better in coverage if he just doesn't have the talent to do it consistently? How can you coach average to be better than they are or stop them busting a coverage or having communication issues if they just don't have the talent to do what you're asking of them? You effectively think Bowles should be gettin more out of the players by coaching them up, I think a large proportion of them are beyond bein coached up, they just aren't very good and all the trying in the world wont make an average player with an average skillet better. There's a serious lack of talent on this roster.
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Nov 6, 2016 18:46:55 GMT -5
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Nov 6, 2016 18:46:55 GMT -5
Fair point. However He led us to 10 wins last year and had us playing decent disciplined football and offensively we functioned well for the first time in a long time. I just personally believe that the majority of this bunch are uncoachable and that this roster is grossly overrated. Let's look at it.... OFFENSE: QB - Fitz, nothin needs to be said. LT - Macc provided a banged up Clady, average at best. LG - Carp is Solid. C - Stuck with Johnson as Mangold declines through injury, he's played well but he's not scaring any defensive fronts. RG - Winters is solid but unspectacular. RT - Ijalana and Breno are horse shit. WR - outside of Marshall and Deck it's decent unit but again not scaring any DB's at this point, solid unit but far from great IMO RB - Forte and Powell would be good if they where behind Dallas's oline, behind our average line the ground game looks a struggle. DEFENSE: Dline - The only group with genuine quality, although there's only Leo showing up so maybe you could blame coaching for that one. LB - No pass rush or coverage ability, needs blowing up and has need it for a long time, not sure Mauldin and Jenkins are the answer and that's on Macc if they don't pan out, only time will tell here. Secondary - Same, no real quality, just average across the board. I thought Skrine and Pryor where good players last year but they are just bodies this year, again no one in the league is scared of them. Average roster so why are we surprised by any of this? We need to look at what Dallas and Oakland have done, big physical offensive line, actually draft a RB and find a QB or at least look at the ones we have. Bowles should take some blame but Macc is dissapointing me more by the week. Did you hear Forte after the game? He said they have issues in game and they can't even get them fixed in practice. That's on the coaching staff. Bowles keeps saying things are correctable but nothing gets corrected. No halftime adjustments? Coaching. I'm not saying Mac. But this team has massive issues. The QB is not on Mac... yet. He came in and there was no QB. Geno sucks. Fitz sucks too but had a good year last year. But nobody trusted Geno for good reason. I didn't want to sign Fitz anyway but it's hard to blame them. Now if Petty and / or Hack suck, well, Mac will have officially sealed his fate. Signing Mo? I think most of us wanted to resign him. Revis? I admit that I thought he was diminished last year but I didn't think he would be this bad. He is likely to get cut. That's on Revis for being out of shape too but I have to give Mac blame too. I just think that this coaching staff has let winnable games slip through their hands and that's on Bowles and his staff. Did Forte mention any specific problems? Just curious to know what the team thinks the problems are
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Nov 6, 2016 18:59:07 GMT -5
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Post by Harrier on Nov 6, 2016 18:59:07 GMT -5
Looks like there's some house cleaning goin on, expect a for sale sign on teh Hampur lawn. Whys that? House cleaning after a loss making the place look all nice and shipshape. Who could blame you for sellin anything linked to this piece of shit franchise?
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Nov 6, 2016 19:03:17 GMT -5
Macc needs to prioritise that O-line in the offseason, put Hack or Petty behind a water tight line that can run the ball. The Cowboys model is the model I'd like to emulate. I know the franchise QB is the easiest way, but it's also the hardest to hit on. I'd prefer loading up on OL, beat the shit out of people, and hopefully Petty or Hack can just be serviceable.
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Nov 6, 2016 19:03:58 GMT -5
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Post by thebigragu on Nov 6, 2016 19:03:58 GMT -5
House cleaning after a loss making the place look all nice and shipshape. Who could blame you for sellin anything linked to this piece of shit franchise? The patriots are 7 and 1 why would i sell now We are going to win another SB. I dont know who hacked me and changed the board layout to NY Jests im working on it now
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Nov 6, 2016 19:05:13 GMT -5
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Post by Bing© in Buffalo Chairman on Nov 6, 2016 19:05:13 GMT -5
What happened to the board?
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Post by Harrier on Nov 6, 2016 19:06:41 GMT -5
What happened to the board? Rags sellin to Shakin, we work for him now.
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Post by Bing© in Buffalo Chairman on Nov 6, 2016 19:08:39 GMT -5
What happened to the board? Rags sellin to Shakin, we work for him now. Isn't Shakin Ragu as well???
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Post by thebigragu on Nov 6, 2016 19:13:19 GMT -5
Rags sellin to Shakin, we work for him now. Isn't Shakin Ragu as well??? And now its out
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